Posted on 02/26/2016 10:52:34 PM PST by ebshumidors
We used to go crazy because of Obama's birth in Kenya to a foreign father and American mother. How is Ted Cruz different? Would a child born here to foreigners be any different? That's Marco's plight. I'm interested in seeing how the poo flings and also if instead of Marco or Ted, the child's first name was Mohammed twenty years from now with massive immigration and amnesty.
Get a judge to agree with your *opinion* of what it means and then talk to me. My opinion is based on plain old dictionary definitions and common sense.
If in 1776, we were able to find a guy to run for president born on America soil, certainly we can in 2016. It is a slap in the face to George Washington that Cruz dates to run for president in our great country. Let him run in Canada.
No, you get the judge. Your opinion is based upon anything but common sense.
I have no faith that Ted would keep his promises about building the Wall or deporting the illegals, neither of which are in his published plan.
Yes, his plan does state that he’d deport criminal illegals, but gangsters only account for a tiny percentage of the overall number of illegals. It’s the so-called ‘non-criminal’ aliens who are stealing our jobs and our very country from us. Until only yesterday, Ted refused to come right out and say that he’d deport them.
As far as the Wall is concerned, I think that would wind up being little more than a chain link fence, by the time it got built under President Ted.
The guy simply isn’t credible on the whole issue. Notice that he didn’t make illegal immigration a key touchstone of his announcement to run for office. He only put out his own policy paper on the issue after Trump had already taken ownership of the zone.
During his time in the Senate, his only contribution to the entire issue, was to offer an amendment to the Gang of 8 bill that would have allowed the illegals to stay in the country, while somehow barring them from receiving citizenship. Like that would have EVER held up in court. Ted’s a master litigator, and knew damn well it wouldn’t.
I still like Ted as a person, but don’t kid yourself. He was compromised by the globalist bankers and the Cheap Labor Express a long time ago. He cannot be trusted to be his own man, and to do the right thing, where it comes to the illegal invasion.
I know, I’ve read a half dozen different birther theories.
One says BOTH parents must be born in this country citizens That would preclude Trump. Cruz mentioned that stupid theory during one of the debates, Trumpers attacked him for it, probably some of the same people were spouting the theory 5 years ago.
No consistency whatsoever.
It was never about the letter of the law or even the spirit, just about disqualifying people they don’t like. People they don’t like now including the most conservative US Senator cause he’s running against our White Knight Hero Trump. How dare he, the damn Canadian!!
I don’t need to. No one is stopping Cruz from running. You birthers are the plaintiffs.
Horsefeces. You insult Cruz, and Washington.
“We used to go crazy because of Obama’s birth in Kenya to a foreign father and American mother. How is Ted Cruz different? Would a child born here to foreigners be any different? That’s Marco’s plight. I’m interested in seeing how the poo flings and also if instead of Marco or Ted, the child’s first name was Mohammed twenty years from now with massive immigration and amnesty.”
Agree!!
I’m not a plaintiff of anything. If you want to ignore the Constitution and what the Founders meant by natural born that is your right, but it doesn’t make you right.
“Under the citizenship law Cruz was a citizen at birth, hence natural born, that’s all it means.”
Not so.
‘Natural born’ means, that, by the very nature of a person’s birth, they can’t be anything but a citizen a designated country.
If a person’s circumstance of birth allows more than one nation to lay claim to their loyalty, they aren’t ‘natural born’, but merely a legal citizen of one or more countries.
In Ted Cruz’ case, no less than THREE different countries can lay claim to his allegiance.
This is precisely what the NBC clause was put into the Constitution to protect us from.
Simply put, if a person is born in country to two citizen parents, they can’t be anything BUT a citizen of the country of their birth, i.e., a Natural Born Citizen.
Oh ok, you guys have convinced me with your stunning grasp of logic and reality, thanks. I’m a Trump man now!! Hey Ted, you’re fired!
That’s a creepy picture. Looks like one of those pictures of politicians huddled around the camera expressing their disapproval and deeply troubled feelings on something.
How cares what you are? Not me, that is for sure.
Trump started this BS in 2011 with his phony attempt to take out Obama via birthism, riling up the dupes (Trump’s chumps) then walking away leaving us with Obama for four more years.
Now he uses it against Cruz, no shame for 2011.
More and more it seems like Trump’s goal is to kill all opposition to Dems.
I’ll bet you were born in this country to two U.S. citizen parents. I was.
Are you telling me that our mutual condition of U. S. citizenship is of the same degree and quality as that of a person was born in a foreign country to one American parent and one foreign parent?
It simply isn’t, and I think you know that. It’s plainly evident that no other nation has the remotest chance of laying claim to our allegiance. Not so with anyone born under the circumstances I described above.
You and I are ‘naturally’ American citizens, as we can’t be anything but.
Ted may be a legal U.S. citizen, but only statute law allows for him to be so. His U.S. citizenship isn’t natural in the same sense or quality as ours is, hence, he isn’t Natural Born, and isn’t qualified under the Constitution to be President.
“Trump started this BS in 2011”
No, the Framers started it in 1787.
I would have supported Cruz if he’d, excuse comparison, pulled a Trump with it and Challenged the democrats to prove he was less qualified than Obama. That would include all pertinent documents.
Ted lost me when he sort of snidely blew the issue off and refused to deal with it.
The difference between Rubio and Obama is that Obama had at least one parent that was a US citizen. Rubio should be viewed as clearly ineligible
Obama’s mother was 18 when she had Obama. She needed to be 19 for the U.S. residency stipulation for Barry to qualify as an NBC. Mrs. Cruz was 36 at Ted’s birth and had resided in the U.S. the number of years required by the statute.
Cruz was a Canadian till a few years back.
Like the liberal/narcissist king Trump gives a crap's a$$ about the framers.
Lets face it, Trump riled up his Trump's chump's rubes in 2011 then walked away from them to his TV show, leaving his birther dupe followers out alone as fools.
I don't support liberals, never did and never will.
And Trump king of the libs is trying to destroy all opposition to Dems.
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