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The long, sordid antivaccine history of Donald Trump
ScienceBlogs ^ | September 15, 2015 | Orac (David H. Gorski, MD, PhD, FACS)

Posted on 09/15/2015 1:44:46 PM PDT by EveningStar

... Trump is antivaccine to the core. Don’t believe me? Never heard this before? Oh, ye of little faith! Orac can back up this statement very easily. To begin, let’s take a trip down memory lane. Donald Trump might be hip, happening, and now as far as the media is concerned because of his skill for making outrageous and often offensive statements so full of burning stupid as to threaten to singe the fabric of reality, but one thing that isn’t frequently discussed is his long history of parroting antivaccine misinformation.

The first time I learned of Donald Trump’s antivaccine proclivities was way back in 2007. What was he saying back then? This:

“When I was growing up, autism wasn’t really a factor,” Trump said. “And now all of a sudden, it’s an epidemic. Everybody has their theory. My theory, and I study it because I have young children, my theory is the shots. We’ve giving these massive injections at one time, and I really think it does something to the children.” ...


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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Politics; Science
KEYWORDS: 2016election; antivaccine; election2016; newyork; trump
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To: EveningStar

This is unbelievable. They are throwing everything they can think of at him which is precisely why his popularity keeps growing. The best part of the Trump candidacy is watching the elitists seethe.


81 posted on 09/15/2015 3:00:44 PM PDT by AdaGray
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To: muggs

Bless you, FRiend and I hope you never get flu again. You don’t need that.


82 posted on 09/15/2015 3:03:31 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: muggs

I am so sorry.
My heart goes out to them......
Bless you, I wish there was something I could do.
They didn ‘t know.......doctors can be intimidating....

..they weren’t going to let our granddaughter leave the hospital without the multiple shots......she had been in NI C U for weeks!
And they told her parents (my daughter) no doctor would be her pediatrician without the shots.

It was a huge guilt trip.
But we prevailed and did find a reputable doctor who worked with us.


83 posted on 09/15/2015 3:10:37 PM PDT by Guenevere (If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do....)
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To: EveningStar

No big hairy deal. MANY individuals in the medical profession are wary of some vaccines. Trump has lottsa’ company. Izzat all ya’got? I smell desperation.


84 posted on 09/15/2015 3:35:53 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: jy8z

Many Thanks for posting this Excellent article!
Seems the sins of abortion have been more tragic than we thought. (Referring to fetal tissue derived vaccine toxicity & injuries)


85 posted on 09/15/2015 3:41:44 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: EveningStar

This should help him with the Jenny McCarthy vote.


86 posted on 09/15/2015 3:42:27 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: miss marmelstein
Miss, I have read this before. Trump is not anti-vaccine. He just feels that they get too many at one time and that they are better spread out. My youngest granddaughter had three different shots in one day (and remember, most are combos) and she is only 2. Some of their systems cannot handle that much at a time.
87 posted on 09/15/2015 4:26:49 PM PDT by Abby4116
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To: Army Air Corps

I thought he bit off bird heads... oh, wait.. that was Ozzy. ;÷)


88 posted on 09/15/2015 5:08:44 PM PDT by Bikkuri (Get ready to defend yourself..)
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To: Arm_Bears; EveningStar; All

Ohhhh - the vaccine subject again.
I am out of energy - - -
- - - just enough to suggest one investigate the junk that’s injected straight into the blood stream.

I’m not agreeing - because I don’t know - that vaccines cause autism - it might for some. I do believe it’s a crap-shoot.

But vaccines have caused a host of other problems.

It seems our choice of reasons to refuse vaccines here in Calif. has recently been shut off, with a new law. Criminal.

That actress who went very public with her son’s problems, has withstood derision - wish I could contact her for support.

Those who refuse vaccines do have an obligation to actively keep their kids healthy. Anti-vacciners know this.

There’s a homeopathic approach to ‘vaccines.’

‘Medical’ is not the only healing art - - -
We use what we think is appropriate for the problem.
Thank G_d we still have this right - but what’s around the corner??

Google ‘National Vaccine Information Center.’

You probably know what I’m going to say next - - ‘just what industry is at the bottom of mandatory vaccines, hmmmmm???’


89 posted on 09/15/2015 5:12:51 PM PDT by USARightSide (S U P P O R T I N G OUR T R O O P S)
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To: Boogieman
Did he not say the things he is quoted as saying???

Only if you hack and slash.

Reading the rest of the story is enlightening but not either dramatic or controversial so it was left out.

90 posted on 09/15/2015 5:17:29 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: USARightSide; All

I didn’t read ahead before posting.
I see many on this thread are wary of vaccines - and well they should be, I believe.


91 posted on 09/15/2015 5:28:02 PM PDT by USARightSide (S U P P O R T I N G OUR T R O O P S)
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To: EveningStar

Wow, now I really do love Trump.

Vaccines are primitive mid 20th century concoctions that are neurotoxic. It’s a miracle every child doesn’t have evident sequelae. Most of them are more dangerous than what they halfway prevent. And the only way to tell which children are at risk for permanent NOTICEABLE* brain damage is to test their gut population. We still don’t quite know what the ideal “can handle the attack of a specific vaccine” gut biome would look like, but we know at least that the bugs should not be already fighting a virus or another illness at the time of vaccination.

Yet this happens every day. Today at a pediatrician’s office near you a baby who was coming down with a cold got some vaccines, and he will be permanently damaged by them, both his gut and his brain, which are more closely related than anyone knew in the 1960s. His parents may not find this out until he is nine, or he might only find out at age 45 when his neurodegenerative symptoms start.

*not all brain damage shows up right away. Some might only show up decades later, like ALS or Parkinson’s.


92 posted on 09/15/2015 6:59:43 PM PDT by Yaelle (Trump would make a Gorbachev tear down a wall.)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

Best post today on FR. You win the trophy. Thanks.


93 posted on 09/15/2015 7:01:58 PM PDT by Yaelle (Trump would make a Gorbachev tear down a wall.)
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To: Yaelle

Thank you!

I’ve learned so much from our great FR community. I Really appreciate the multitude of interests. critical thinking and reliance on facts here.

Best wellness to all of you, and yours ~


94 posted on 09/15/2015 9:34:32 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: EveningStar

Oh no! HOW can I vote for Trump now? And I thought this election was about illegal aliens - silly me!

This one get’s a special mention in the Wile E. Coyote Award competition. Not crazy - just meaningless.


95 posted on 09/16/2015 5:09:47 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“Only if you hack and slash.”

So he did say those things then, thanks.


96 posted on 09/16/2015 7:39:17 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: miss marmelstein
But I was told it cuts down on colds which I occasionally get.

Did you ever give that claim much thought, or did you just nod your head and write the check?

97 posted on 09/16/2015 9:05:56 AM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper

That bit of medical news was given to me by my good friend who at the time was an emergency doctor at Bellevue Hospital. She is now in Ireland heading up one of its main hospitals in Dublin. I’ll listen to her before an unknown freeper, thanks.


98 posted on 09/16/2015 10:20:44 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: Abby4116

Thanks, I’m glad Trump isn’t anti-vaccine!


99 posted on 09/16/2015 10:21:51 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: miss marmelstein
OK. Nod the head it is.

To confirm my previously acquired knowledge, I re-researched this, and there is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that the flu vaccine has any effect on the common cold. Agree with who you want, but it doesn't make them right.

BTW Ms. Snarky, I didn't suggest anything other than independent investigation. The fact that you don't know me personally means squat, and apparently the people you DO know are wrong.

100 posted on 09/16/2015 12:58:56 PM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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