Posted on 09/15/2014 11:04:46 AM PDT by cleghornboy
Irish Central reports:
"Pope Francis continues to amaze. He married 20 couples on Sunday in Rome several of them living in sin having had children outside marriage.
'The people getting married on Sunday are couples like many others,' the diocese of Rome said in a statement. 'Some already live together, some already have children.'
The Pope said marriage was 'real life, not some TV show.'
In marrying them he he kicked away one of the bulwark beliefs of the sex-obsessed hierarchy in the old church, the belief that sex outside marriage was a heinous and immoral act.
All of us Irish Catholics grew up with that unfortunate characterization of those who did not conform to the absolute orthodoxy of only having sex and children within marriage.
All others were fallen sinners. This led to some mighty hypocrisy on all sides as fallen men and women were considered far below the virtuous few most of whom on closer scrutiny were not such virtuous souls.
The scandal around the unfortunate Bishop Eamon Casey, when it was revealed he had a child, was subsequently utterly dwarfed by the pedophile crisis that hit the church in Ireland like a hurricane. It seems likely that contraception could be next. Francis is nothing but a realist, and over 90 percent of Catholic couples use contraception.
Francis is trying to make the church more inclusive, to absorb those who have been driven away by right wing ideology bordering on the dictatorial...
(Excerpt) Read more at lasalettejourney.blogspot.com ...
By the College of Cardinals, as proscribed in the rules written by St. John Paul II.
I sent you a link, because it’s somewhat complicated. Hope that helps. :)
That would be prescribed, not proscribed.
The document is the Apostolic Constitution, UNIVERSI DOMINICI GREGIS, ON THE VACANCY OF THE APOSTOLIC SEE AND THE ELECTION
OF THE ROMAN PONTIFF, found here:
He has pretty well discredited himself with that comment.
Oops, wrong thread.
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Jack Chick, is that you?
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Was Pope Francis. canonically elected?
I would say probably NO. Kennedys are never wrong and he disgustingly named his dog SPLASH...
Malachi’s prophecy?
“I would say probably NO.”
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured unto you.
There is only one Judge, and I would be very afraid to usurp His knowledge, His judgment and His throne.
It is not up to any one of his creatures to make a determination about the disposition of another creature’s soul.
It’s not up to me to suppose he did or did not repent; as Christians we hope that he did and leave it at that.
Why don’t you just read my post and try not to be theatrical.
Is there something in that post that you think is false?
Personally, I think the message is more the one Jesus sent when he ate with tax collectors and other sinners. We should reach out to those most in need of help and guide them toward living more moral lives. A real marriage is a huge step in the right direction, and if this sacrament for a few by the Pope guides innumerable other couples into rectifying that error in their own lives, I'm all for it.
I read your post. You never answered my question.
I don’t exist to answer silly questions from people.
If there is something you think is false in that post, tell me what it is.
Struck a nerve did I?
Neither do I.
No you didn’t strike anything, your posts are just off on some tangent, evidently post 27 hit a nerve with you but you won’t address it.
To: OpusatFR
Look at the Kennedys, and they are Catholic royalty, treated as Americas first family by the Catholic church.
Pelosi and most of the Catholic politicians that we can name, are just following in the Kennedy tradition, that paid off so well for them within their church.
Ted went out in full Catholic glory, even being blessed by his Pope in a letter.
27 posted on 9/15/2014 11:57:45 AM by ansel12
“Ted went out in full catholic glory...”
You object to funerals? I don’t care if he had a liturgical funeral. But you are implying he did not merit it. How would you know? Where you at his deathbed? Did you hear his confession? I know I wasn’t there to make that call. It’s beyond my pay grade.
I guess Jesus ticked the onlookers off when he pardoned the criminal next to his cross. The utter nerve of the almighty.
This book says it all..
http://www.amazon.com/Shattered-Faith-Struggle-Catholic-Annulling/dp/0805058281
You might want to look through the reviews and read not just the ones that appeal to your confirmation bias.
The one by an actual canon lawyer is helpful.
Yes.
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