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Butterdezillion's Blog ^ | 03-05-14 | Butterdezillion

Posted on 03/06/2014 9:11:00 AM PST by butterdezillion

These are the new images I've got, to go with the second of my youtubes, which is posted at http://youtu.be/usFBn99pJMc

In the first youtube we looked at what could be seen above the water in the video. In this new video I show footage of some more that is above water but also some that is underwater. The images on my blog are clearer than what shows on youtube, so even if you see the youtube (which I recommend, because it explains what you're seeing and gives other links as well) you might want to look at the stills to get a clearer image.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: abcgov; action; butterdezillion; butterisanutter; camera; cessna; fuddy; gethelp; lights; mentalillness; naturalborncitizen; newtruther; notbreakingnews; tinfoilhat; unhingedcrank
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To: butterdezillion
Both his arms are clearly reaching up. The arm by his back is darker than his arms.

And there's the problem right there. I don't know what you mean by that statement, but I do know what I think I can see.

For you to make yourself clear, you need to caption the image with a statement of WHAT IT IS YOU THINK YOU SEE.

201 posted on 03/06/2014 4:20:26 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: butterdezillion

follow the line of his shoulders. It looks to me like the right arm is simply closer to the surface than the left.

202 posted on 03/06/2014 4:29:42 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: butterdezillion
Where is he holding an uninflated jacket? His arms are both right in front of him. Are you saying there’s a life jacket in his hands?

Not what I see; I see his right arm reaching up, and illuminated by sunlight, while his left arm, in shadow, is at his side, holding a yellow life jacket. But these photos are not clear enough to say anything definitively.

203 posted on 03/06/2014 4:47:34 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: butterdezillion

For another example, each time this image is shown, and I have no way of knowing, while I'm looking at it, over what period of time the numerous similar stills were taken, it seems that this person isn't moving in any way, their arms don't appear to move nor do the legs seem to change position, so it's a safe bet to assume this person isn't treading water and isn't conscious. That's what made me think it might be Fuddy. Her arm shows up as white, that's because the light falls in that direction, but her back is in shadow, so the garment appears to be dark.

The jacket is barely sufficient to hold her head out of the water, and if she's lucky, it's doing what it was designed to do, keep her face out of the water and stop her from drowning. The jacket needs to be fastened across her back to stay on, and what you see across her back is part of the jacket, therefor it's the same colour.

Is it Fuddy? I have no way of knowing.

204 posted on 03/06/2014 4:51:11 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: butterdezillion

There’s also a hint of that purple pattern on the shoulder in that previous image I posted. That might indicate it’s Fuddy.


205 posted on 03/06/2014 4:57:07 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Fred Nerks

That’s what I see too. There are 2 elbows, 2 hands - both reaching up to the surface of the water in front of him. The skin area in front of him is too wide to be one arm and shows the boundaries of each arm. IIRC other images in the series of shots (which are consecutive. Except where I noted, I showed every frame that was in the bandicam recording.) also show the arms separated from each other in front of him; I think I mentioned that in the narration of the youtube.

Gotta get to Bible study.


206 posted on 03/06/2014 5:00:17 PM PST by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: butterdezillion
...There are 2 elbows, 2 hands - both reaching up to the surface of the water in front of him...

That's what you think you see, but I have to tell you, no body treads water with both of their arms extended up and in front of them in exactly the same position. His left arm is on the left of his body and his right arm is out in front of him, reaching the surface. That's how you balance yourself in the water. With both arms in the same position, you sink.

It seems to me what you think is one arm above the other is a reflection.

207 posted on 03/06/2014 5:17:13 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: butterdezillion

The one upthread with the right arm angled down has a different body shape than Ms Fuddy... has white bunched up toward neck....


208 posted on 03/06/2014 5:24:34 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

The one in #204


209 posted on 03/06/2014 5:24:58 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Fred Nerks
His left arm is on the left of his body and his right arm is out in front of him, reaching the surface.

That's what I see.

210 posted on 03/06/2014 5:25:26 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: butterdezillion
And on second and third looks, that faint touch of purple on the sleeve and shoulder now has me almost convinced that is Fuddy, and she's motionless, with probably only the top of her head showing on the surface.


211 posted on 03/06/2014 5:26:49 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: WildHighlander57
...... has white bunched up toward neck....

That just happens to be her ARM

212 posted on 03/06/2014 5:29:33 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Fred Nerks

I’m not that good at figuring out what is there and who is who in the water. What could really add to all this is in-person interviews with those who were in the water at the time.
I think that could possibly confirm some of our suspicions if we interviewed someone on the scene in the water. absent that I have a hard time telling what is what.


213 posted on 03/06/2014 5:30:46 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Fred Nerks

OK #204,

so what you are saying is that one arm is horizontal, and its flesh toned, and the other is angled, and is reflecting light.

(Need the timestamps along the bottom of the vid, here.... its hard to tell the sequence...)


214 posted on 03/06/2014 5:38:25 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: rodguy911; butterdezillion

If butter were to present, for example, that image of Fuddy which I have now posted several times, (and regardless of what various impressions we might have) enter a caption beneath the image:

Is this a photograph of a dolphin with a speargun?

We could respond with a simple YES or NO.

But what we see is a series of stills from a less than perfectly clear video, and a question:

WHAT DO YOU SEE?

So some are going to see nothing but a blur, some are going to see the Madonna, some will see something sinister, and they are all going to argue with each other.

The method isn’t going to achieve anything, imo. So change the method.

Maybe CAN YOU SEE WHAT I SEE would work better. But to do that, butter, you have to be prepared tell us what YOU THINK YOU SEE.


215 posted on 03/06/2014 5:40:42 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: butterdezillion

I see you are being ridiculed for trying to analyze various aspects of the footage. I see nothing wrong with that. It is systematic intellectual curiosity that has led humans to discoveries, not always, but often enough to make it worth while to keep thinking.


216 posted on 03/06/2014 5:43:30 PM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: WildHighlander57

I read your reply three times and it doesn’t make sense, there are images of two different people and it sounds like you are confusing one with the other.


217 posted on 03/06/2014 5:45:08 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Fred Nerks

Hard to argue with what you say Fred.
Absent an expert in the field of tearing apart video and putting it back together I’m still of mind of interviewing those on the scene. I don’t see any other means of getting to what happened when, where and why.


218 posted on 03/06/2014 5:46:25 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: butterdezillion

How many hours would you say you’ve invested in researching this theory?


219 posted on 03/06/2014 5:50:33 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: rodguy911

Yamamoto - one hand near the sruface, the other by his left side, possibly holding a jacket.

Maybe Fuddy, probably not conscious, no movement showing in several images, face and top of head possibly barely out of water. Slight pruple tinge on sleeve suggests it's Fuddy.

220 posted on 03/06/2014 5:52:50 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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