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Posted on 01/11/2014 10:28:02 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
What is motivating Chief Justice John Roberts? Does he need to talk to us, the American people, about his oath to judge the law in an unbiased, non partisan manner? Why are so many judicial decisions being made that clearly run counter to the wishes of the American people? Where is the caveat that America must be a government of the people, by the people, and for the people?
“Supreme Court nominee John G. Roberts, Jr. worked behind the scenes for gay rights activists, and his legal expertise helped them persuade the Supreme Court to issue a landmark 1996 ruling protecting people from discrimination because of their sexual orientation,” says observer Pat Dollard (1). This web reporter who cites a LA TIMES news report and interview goes on to stress to readers that “gay rights activists at the time described the court’s 6-3 ruling as the movement’s most important legal victory.” Roberts took on the Romer v. Evans case as a pro bono attorney, but he failed to...
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Occum’s razor says he just had a libtarded moment because he’s not as a solid conservative as originally believed.
“Blackmail” was thrown out in the immediate aftermath of the decision by those that couldn’t fathom the likelihood that his betrayal was the free choice of a typical too clever for his own good arrogant judge.
Any blackmail material so damning as to compel him to rule for Obama in that one instance by all logic could have been used to instead make him resign so he could be replaced with a stalinist. Silly conspiracy theory.
Chief Jagoff Roberts: Einsatzgruppen.
All that does is hide the tax, in Maryland everyone going to the hospital gets a special tax added to their bill to pay for that ‘freebee’ called the uninsured who shows up at an ER.
But a bigger irony is the Obamacare mandate policies doesn't cover (fix) that problem even though they claimed that was a purpose, those Obamacare exchange policies have huge deductibles still sticking ERs with the bill.
‘(2) SPECIAL RULES- Notwithstanding any other provision of law—
‘(A) WAIVER OF CRIMINAL PENALTIES- In the case of any failure by a taxpayer to timely pay any penalty imposed by this section, such taxpayer shall not be subject to any criminal prosecution or penalty with respect to such failure.
(B) LIMITATIONS ON LIENS AND LEVIES- The Secretary shall not—
‘(i) file notice of lien with respect to any property of a taxpayer by reason of any failure to pay the penalty imposed by this section, or
‘(ii) levy on any such property with respect to such failure.’.
What the Obama-care law text REALLY says on IRS enforcement of the personal Mandate fine/tax
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one word -offset-
“...The Secretary shall not—
‘(i) file notice of lien with respect to any property of a taxpayer by reason of any failure to pay the penalty imposed by this section, or
‘(ii) levy on any such property with respect to such failure.’...”
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But Judge Roberts (and thus the majority opinion when combined with the liberals on the court) says that no penalties are imposed -— folks are simply “TAXED”. So since there are no penalties actually being imposed (according to Roberts) there will be no need to impose criminal sanctions or liens because of failure to pay the non-existent penalties.
But try to NOT pay the taxes that will be imposed for failure to buy insurance. Good luck with that.
But nice try anyhow.
HA, Roberts DIDN”T overturn that part of the law I posted forbidding the IRS from punishing up for not complying. He upheld it,
That part of the law was not challenged, in fact only a supporter of Obamacare would challenge that part of law and they didn't,
Nice try anyhow!
Sorry, but I guess you missed the point I was trying to make. The part of the law you were pointing out said any penalties charged under the law couldn’t be “forcefully” collected. But the Roberts decision said that there ARE NO PENALTIES being charged. Taxes are charged to the non-compliant. There is nothing in the law that says that unpaid TAXES can’t be collected by lien or scarfed up from refunds of other taxes or the bank account(s) of those owing taxes. I guess we’ll have to wait until 2015 when the 2014 taxes are being settled up to see how far the IRS will go to collect “its due”.
I don’t ascribe kindness to the IRS so I don’t expect they’ll be cutting anyone any slack in this regard. From the IRS’ perspective, if the Supreme Court says it’s NOT a penalty but a tax, they will agree that it’s a tax—and they WILL go after it.
If you posted that “non-enforcement” section of the bill for some other reason, let me know.
They didn't rule that. That's ridiculous.
They ruled that the fines are constitutional under congresses power to tax,
They didn't change them into anything different and certainly didnt rule that the IRS can ignore that part of the law forbidding them from punitive action. The ruling upheld that part of law if anything.
Why are you trying to scare Americans into submitting to Obamacare anyway? That is counter productive.
Well, we’re going to have to agree to disagree. You believe that the Obamacare Mandate is enforced by “penalties” and therefore they cannot be forcefully collected. You believe that because the legislative language actually says that. You believe that we are living in a rational America now.
I believe that we are, in essence, living (hopefully only temporarily) in a “bizarro-America” where our supreme court says the Obamacare Mandate is enforced by a tax and not by a penalty. Like I said, we’ll have to see what the IRS does (in 2015) to folks who somehow “refuse” to pay the mandate tax as part of their 2014 tax returns. You think the legislation precludes the IRS from going after them and that the IRS will therefore not go after them; I think otherwise since we’re living in bizarro-America (until Obama is out of office and replaced by a conservative Republican) and the IRS will ignore that part of the law since they now claim the financial sanction applied to folks who ignore the Obamacare mandate is NOT a penalty, it’s a tax.
Feel free to have the last word. I’ll not reply to it. I’ll simply wait until 2015 to see how this shakes out. Since Obama and his IRS ignore or misinterpret any law they disagree with I think I know which way it will go.
I don't have to believe in this case. I can read.
‘(2) SPECIAL RULES- Notwithstanding any other provision of law—
‘(A) WAIVER OF CRIMINAL PENALTIES- In the case of any failure by a taxpayer to timely pay any penalty imposed by this section, such taxpayer shall not be subject to any criminal prosecution or penalty with respect to such failure.
(B) LIMITATIONS ON LIENS AND LEVIES- The Secretary shall not—
‘(i) file notice of lien with respect to any property of a taxpayer by reason of any failure to pay the penalty imposed by this section, or
‘(ii) levy on any such property with respect to such failure.’.
What the Obama-care law text REALLY says on IRS enforcement of the personal Mandate fine/tax
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