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1 posted on 10/07/2013 8:01:01 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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Anything’s “possible.”

How Uncle Sam shuts down a state is not clear here and I don’t have time to study it out.

My gut sense is that Barack wants to make a scene but would stop short of anything that could actually get him tarred and feathered. And if nothing else would, this would.


2 posted on 10/07/2013 8:04:22 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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Pentagon warns to expect radical change in US government soon.

http://www.thetotalcollapse.com/pentagon-warns-to-expect-radical-change-in-us-government-soon/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheTotalCollapse+%28The+Total+Collapse%29

Oath Keepers is Going “Operational” by Forming Special “Civilization Preservation” Teams
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3075352/posts


3 posted on 10/07/2013 8:04:33 AM PDT by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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The Tenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

IMPEACHMENT!

4 posted on 10/07/2013 8:04:57 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
6 posted on 10/07/2013 8:05:47 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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Even though the shutdown continues the debt ceiling is a false flag. The IRS is still collecting taxes and it is enough to cover interest on our debts and those payments are automatic. The actual debt crisis of us not paying doesn’t actually happen for several months. It is a rouse to make the average Joe panic.

Rush had a piece on this last week and I have heard it locally on one of our radio stations as well.


7 posted on 10/07/2013 8:06:01 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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which is exactly nothing.


8 posted on 10/07/2013 8:06:26 AM PDT by McGavin999
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can you say....


9 posted on 10/07/2013 8:06:27 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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It’s not worth much at all, actually. It begins with the premise that we are on the precipice of a ‘default’ on our national debt loan (i.e., making the interest payment).

We are nowhere near that at all even with a complete budget stall. The US takes in nearly $250B in tax revenues each month...this is more than 10 times than what is needed to service the interest on the debt ($220B/year).

What this shutdown does, however is force Obama into a position to where he would have to prioritize the spending for what is left, but not total chaos like that described in this missive.

I don’t put any stock in this alarmist propaganda at all.


10 posted on 10/07/2013 8:06:29 AM PDT by Gaffer
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Do you really think obambi would give up all those illegal in the Southwest?


11 posted on 10/07/2013 8:07:29 AM PDT by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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We have the truckers shutting down the dollar on October 11-13”

...is this for real? 95% of truckers work for someone else and nearly all of them have families and bills to pay. Doesn`t make sense to me.


12 posted on 10/07/2013 8:07:36 AM PDT by albie
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If the end goal is to have another Civil War, then this might be one viable strategy.

A state cannot be "shut down" by the federal government. I don't believe the Constitution has a proviso for that. But, if certain states aren't wanted any more ...

13 posted on 10/07/2013 8:07:46 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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Good. That means we don’t have secede. He will be doing it for us and then we won’t have to put up with his crap any longer.


22 posted on 10/07/2013 8:16:51 AM PDT by Jukeman (God help us for we are deep in trouble.)
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It is worth a pile of Shiite.

87% of the government is functioning.

There is more than enough tax receipts to cover interest payments, and the Social Fraud programs.

If Obama decides to wreck the credit of the US Treasury so be it. The only thing it means is that the US will not be able to borrow as much or as easily as it does now. What is the downside to that?


26 posted on 10/07/2013 8:21:29 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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If I read the excerpt of an article the other day correctly, a bill was sent over that would allow the Treasury to make all the necessary payments to prevent default, while not allowing the debt ceiling being raised or the partial shutdown being over.

It was refused. Imagine that.

What i find interesting in this article is that if it happens, his supporters will suffer the most.


28 posted on 10/07/2013 8:24:10 AM PDT by qaz123
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I VERY much doubt this.


31 posted on 10/07/2013 8:31:25 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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This year, the Attorney General of Texas, Gregg Abott, signed a contingency plan that he would help the Texas Nationalist Movement in the event of an economic collapse to restore the Republic of Texas to the full glory of the nation it once was. This has led to some serious debate with constitutional lawyers as if it was even possible since the civil war. But Texas remains one state that is still classified as a “Republic” and is one of the only states that can fly its flag at the same level as the US flag.
Thank God I'm a Texan.

God Bless the Republic of Texas.


32 posted on 10/07/2013 8:32:21 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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Actually, this is the “... fundamental transformation of America” which the President wants.

Until we suffer like the rest of the world .. we will remain just an evil rich country.

ISN’T ANYBODY GETTING IT YET ..??

Obamacare is just another factor in the complete transformation of this country. I can still hear the painful cry of the woman who testified before Congress: “The America I grew up in .. I’m terrified it’s slipping away”.

The moment she said that, I just burst into tears and sobbed and sobbed; like somebody had punched me in the gut!

The result of all this chaos .. could be a declaration of martial law - suspending ELECTIONS. Geeeee .. does anybody else realize what’s going on here ..??


34 posted on 10/07/2013 8:45:55 AM PDT by CyberAnt (MY AMERICA: "... I'm terrified it's slipping away.")
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Take this for what it's worth.

It's utter crap

36 posted on 10/07/2013 8:50:07 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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I did and it’s worth nothing...


40 posted on 10/07/2013 8:55:09 AM PDT by maddog55
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The most recent example of this conflict between Obama and the US military, the GRU further states, was in Egypt when the Obama regime supported Muslim Brotherhood was overthrown by the Pentagon backed Egyptian military, and who, like the United States, makes its political and military leaders swear allegiance to their constitution, not to any of its leaders.

Very interesting.

41 posted on 10/07/2013 9:09:06 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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