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1 posted on 07/19/2013 8:45:12 AM PDT by roofgoat
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Rats hate any law that allows a person t be independent of the state.


2 posted on 07/19/2013 8:47:36 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: roofgoat

I’m at a complete loss as to why Holder cares anything about laws.


3 posted on 07/19/2013 8:49:13 AM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To say they are crazy and without logic is an understatement.

In THEIR version of events, TRAYVON was justified because he was acting in self defense.

Maybe we should also call the earth flat, because it was round that day.


4 posted on 07/19/2013 8:50:02 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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God bless the children inheriting this country. I sincerely hope the are able to turn the ship around.


5 posted on 07/19/2013 8:50:28 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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The obamaroid regime tells America to ‘memorialize’ the thug wannabe, Trayvon Martin, who profiled an Hispanic man and then tried to bash his brains out on a concrete sidewalk. This campaign to remove stand your ground and armed self defense laws is the proof that Hispanics are the latest pawns the democrip party wants to use to serve their anti-American agenda. BUT will Hispanics see the truth of what this devilish regime is trying to do, in the name of the democrips party? We can only hope Hispanics see what the democrips have in mind, to replace the black pawns used for decades to empower the party.


6 posted on 07/19/2013 8:50:35 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: roofgoat

Laws for thee but not me me.


7 posted on 07/19/2013 8:51:10 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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Liberals want to turn America into the Serengeti where the predators roam freely picking off the slowest weakest members of the herd.


9 posted on 07/19/2013 8:54:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: roofgoat

Blacks are justified in giving Whitey a beatdown.
And Whitey is obligated to take it.

It’s in the Constitution — check the penumbra.


10 posted on 07/19/2013 8:55:28 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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In the early 90’s, I was doing some work for a rancher in the northern panhandle of TX. His wife said they were staunch Dumocrats. He had a gun cabinet built into a wall with over fifty long guns. I asked how they felt about the Dummies wanting to take our guns. They thought that was Republican propaganda. I’ve always wanted to go back and ask what they think now. I was a Dumocrat until I started listening to Rush. Our media (Amarillo) had repeated the lies our Dummie representative told about protecting our gun rights. With Rush and being able to see what went on in Washington on CSPAN, we conservatives booted the liberals out and that area is now firmly Republican (though we need to scrap that party or take it back).


12 posted on 07/19/2013 8:55:40 AM PDT by TStro (Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.)
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The idea that is sowing dangerous conflicts in neighborhoods is that which says you should brutally attack anyone for perceived “disrespect”.


13 posted on 07/19/2013 8:56:35 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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Yeah, I agree. If someone is a serious threat to my life or the lives of my family, I should be able to stalk them down, and kill them in self defense. We shouldn't have to wait until the threat comes to us. Call it the make your own ground law.

A law like that would drive the loons right out of their minds, ...albeit a short trip.

14 posted on 07/19/2013 8:57:01 AM PDT by pallis
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It may be that this talk at an NAACP speech is just rhetoric but I am taking a ‘wait-and-see’ attitude.

Hold-Em should step carefully with regard to current gun laws, ‘stand your ground’ and the CONSTITUTION of The Untied States of America.

The recent ‘gun-contol’ debacle did not pass.


15 posted on 07/19/2013 8:58:16 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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I feel compelled to point out the paradox of late in the gun control issue.

While their may be and has been a lot of political rhetoric admonishing guns and promoting more controlling laws and regulations, the actuality at the state and local levels have been a trend to more support of citizens rights to own, carry and use guns. State laws have been trending for many years towards protecting the gun owner that defends themselves.

IL just became the 50th state to update laws that make owning and carrying a weapon legal (not without some infringement of course). But the adoption of Castle Doctrines and Stand Your Ground Laws, along with the expansion of some reciprocity, the citizens are winning this at local levels.

It’s the Fed that talks and balks. Because they can’t do much when they can’t control opinions and mandates at local levels. Our concern about the Fed needs to focus on their finding a back door to circumvent state rights and turn the issue into a national commerce issue. Here is where we need to focus on what the libs will try next.

Interstate Commerce can be regulated constitutionally (as currently interpreted). The Feds charter is not intended to limit interstate commerce as they did with health insurance companies years ago. But rather to facilitate and unify the states efforts in things like currency, transportation, etc. However, this administration can be expected to use this usurped power to regulate things like ammunition, distribution, manufacturing, etc.

Look for the fed to try and restrict distribution across state lines (like produce). Look for them to regulate the manufacturing of ammunition (or tax it for Homeland Security Revenue).

I doubt the Fed will get anywhere with individual rights or weapons bans. That will still get decided at state levels per constituency. But they will find ways to make gun ownership too expensive or troublesome so as to cause folks to break laws by choice or by ignorance.

Remain diligent FRiends.


20 posted on 07/19/2013 9:01:38 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (If the government told us to expect rain, I'd schedule an outdoor wedding.)
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"...it's time to question laws that senselessly expand the concept of self-defense and sow dangerous conflict in our neighborhoods."

People that live in gated communities with private security abhor violence. they can't understand why private citizens should be allowed guns. In their world they have an attorney on retainer to address any misunderstandings that might come up.

In inner city neighborhoods, there is danger of violence around every corner. If you can't acquire a gun you get the meanest pit bull you can find.

Even in middle income neighborhoods it is wise to have a gun to protect your home and family. The government cannot protect you in an emergency. I believe it is better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it.

23 posted on 07/19/2013 9:08:03 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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” in our neighborhoods”

I love the coded language!


24 posted on 07/19/2013 9:14:29 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey
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Fine. But only if Secret Service no longer covers and protects your a$$. Fair enough, Mr. Holder????


27 posted on 07/19/2013 9:31:41 AM PDT by MissTed ( Private Tagline - Do Not Read!)
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This from the man who gave guns and rifles to the Mexican Drug Cartels.


29 posted on 07/19/2013 9:37:45 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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Classic fallacy of composition: ...senselessly expand the concept of self-defense and sow dangerous conflict in our neighborhoods.

Point one: self defense is not senseless. It is rational, moral and necessary if a people are to retain any sense of freedom.

Point two:The inclusion of sow dangerous conflict with self defense is either an attempt to state a false cause analogy ie guns cause conflict or to infer that self-defense causes conflict. But guns just are, inanimate matter, they are not a proximate nor a first cause, they have no will no motive, no ability to reason or ability to take offense. Self defense also cannot cause conflict it is a response to existing conflict. Hence cannot sow conflict but are more like the fruit or harvest of conflict.

Travon does not get shot if he does not engage an encounter with violence. No expansion of self defense can rationally be included as a cause. The immediate cause was Trayvon administering "whoop ass". If George Zimmerman had done the same Travon would have been legally and morally justified in defending himself. Had GZ not had a gun he might also be dead, hence the need for self defense.

Moral of the story: live like a thug - die like a thug. Survival is the first duty absent a act of sacrifice to preserve others. Threaten the life of others and expect them to defend their lives, expect their loved ones to engage the defense, expect friends and neighbors to defend their own expect that they will defend even if you must forfeit your own. Disarming the victims has never worked, killing bad guys has much better track record.

Note to would-be thugs criminals and mischief makers; act civilized, behave in an nonthreatening manner follow the law and peace be with you! Threaten, mug, steal, rape, whoop ass, and generally sow discord and violence then you will reap a whirl wind - whirl wind now available in 9mm HP.

33 posted on 07/19/2013 10:24:01 AM PDT by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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How about a betting pool on the month and year we will no longer have a right of self defense and must cower in the presence of human debris criminals AND our own government?

In NYS we are pretty much there.

I used to think the book “The Turner Diaries” was simply a racist book of fiction about a future USA which in reality could never exist.

Then like “1984” all of a sudden I see the book may have started out as fiction but fiction became reality and we are living in “The Turner Diaries”.

Given how embedded our enemies are within our government, media, universities, unionize public schools, I am convinced the reality outcome will not be as good as the fictional outcome.

Its a rough, racist book to read but if you can get beyond that, it is amazing how much is now reality.

No wonder it was PART of why Tim McViegh went bonkers after Waco.


34 posted on 07/19/2013 11:07:57 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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