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To: roofgoat
"...it's time to question laws that senselessly expand the concept of self-defense and sow dangerous conflict in our neighborhoods."

People that live in gated communities with private security abhor violence. they can't understand why private citizens should be allowed guns. In their world they have an attorney on retainer to address any misunderstandings that might come up.

In inner city neighborhoods, there is danger of violence around every corner. If you can't acquire a gun you get the meanest pit bull you can find.

Even in middle income neighborhoods it is wise to have a gun to protect your home and family. The government cannot protect you in an emergency. I believe it is better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it.

23 posted on 07/19/2013 9:08:03 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: oldbrowser
... I believe it is better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it.

This comment led to a spirited debate years ago (college days) about violence and self defense. (how to shorten this story....?)

Violence never solves anything. Police are there if guns are needed. If only police had guns, citizens could defend themselves with pepper spray.... so their arguments went on.

I offered we set up a hypothetical experiment and invited them to make a supposition on the results. One of them (peacenick gungrabbers) would volunteer to spend 72 hours locked in a room. They would sign waivers that there would be absolutely no legal retribution or consequences for what happened in that 72 hours. No law would be applied. They would be armed with a gun that they could use at any time. Over the next 72 hours various sex offenders, murderers, deranged maniacs and other violent repeat criminal felons would visit them in the room with a promise of payment to the person that does the worst to them.

Do you think the peacenick gun grabber will use the gun in the 72 hours of confinement? Why or why not?

Their refusal to answer spoke volumes and at least one girl changed her position from absolutely never to maybe depending on the person and circumstances (owning and carrying a gun).

One idiot said he's shoot himself first. "So you would use the gun after all." LOL.

30 posted on 07/19/2013 9:44:45 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (If the government told us to expect rain, I'd schedule an outdoor wedding.)
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