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This Lethal Injection Stuff is for the Birds- HANG 'EM HIGH, Dammit!
Reaganite Republican ^
| 27 April 2013
| Reaganite Republican
Posted on 04/27/2013 4:51:37 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
The prospect of gently dozing off while taunting victims right-to-the-end is hardly an effective deterrent...
The death penalty is currently a legal sentence in 33 American states and in the federal civilian and military legal systems. Lethal injection has become the most common method of capital punishment utilized since SCOTUS re-enstated the death penalty in 1976, popularity owed to the theory it's the most 'humane' method available... but humane to whom? Not society, the victims, nor their families, that's for sure...
Case-in-point being yesterday's execution of Richard Cobb (29) in Texas: he and his crime partner Beunka Adams (righteously executed April 2012) went on a robbery spree south of Dallas in 2010-2011 that ended with the kidnapping/rape of a woman cashier, shooting of another, and murder of a mentally-damaged customer.
After they took the three to a field and the rape part was over, the shooting began: the hyper-sadistic Adams asked the women if they where 'hit' or 'bleeding' as a
20-ga. shotgun was fired every few seconds. When one of the girls attempted to play possum he said 'Answer me or I'll shoot you in the face!' She was frightened into responding 'No, I'm not bleeding'... then he shot her in the face anyway. Once Cobb flamed a lighter in their face to test if they were alive, he simply said 'They're dead, let's go'.
Both female victims miraculously survived to bear witness in court and put Cobb and Adams where they belong, on death row. There is NO rehabilitating such rabid, bloodthirsty animals- to think otherwise is the wishful thinking of fools. But they're not crazy- just EVIL, and they knew what they were doing, as thoroughly-proven in court.
But wouldn't SOME deterrent effect have be nice? It's supposed to be one of the primary reasons we retain capital punishment... that, and the concept of victims justice.
But hapless victims of Cobb and Adams got neither yesterday: the surviving rape victim attended the execution with her family, and as they watched demented moral-black-hole Richard Cobb showed zero remorse while using the opportunity to put the last laugh on us...
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'Life is death, death is life. I hope that someday this absurdity that humanity has come to will come to an end,' Cobb said when asked if he had any last words.
'Life is too short. I hope anyone that has negative energy towards me will resolve that. 'Life is too short to harbor feelings of hatred and anger.
That's it, warden.'
But that wasn't it. Just before the lethal drug took effect and at the conclusion of his statement, Cobb twisted his head back, raised it off a pillow placed on the gurney and then toward the warden standing behind him.
'Wow!' the inmate exclaimed in a loud voice. 'That is great. That is awesome! Thank you, warden! Thank you (expletive) warden!' His head fell back on the pillow, and his neck twisted at an odd angle, with his mouth and eyes open...
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Actually, I don't think hating on Richard Cobb is a waste of time- feels right, actually. But does this sound to you like the victims are getting a much-deserved sense of closure...?
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'I think justice was served but it doesn't change anything to speak of,' the slain man's father, Don Vandever, said after watching Cobb die.
'I do think the justice system needs to be more of a deterrent. 'All he did was go to sleep. That's it.'
Nikki Daniels, 29, who was raped and shot during the 2002 attack but survived to testify against Cobb, said, 'I thought he was going to be remorseful, I thought he was going to be apologetic, was hoping that he was going to address me.
'I saw the same evil person I saw 11 years ago. ... He definitely showed his true colors.'
The Associated Press generally does not name victims of sexual assault but Daniels agreed to be identified. Daniels said Cobb's punishment in the end 'was far too easy.'
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Richard Cobb said in a media interview that he 'didn't want to die' but 'committed the crime' and was 'prepared to die'- nary a word of regret, mind you... in fact he breezily dismissed it all as 'an act of compulsion'.
The gallows or a firing-squad while blindfolded and gagged is THE only way to allow victims and others to witness justice being done (without exposing them to further lifelong damage) while promptly relieving humanity of such predatory scum. This would be a decidedly less pleasant a prospect for aspiring killers than a decade or more of appeals followed by an event little more traumatic than falling asleep in the dentist's chair.
You can just ignore those preaching 'humane' treatment of proven-guilty monsters like these two, because whatever the true motivation, these libs are supporting, glorifying, and perpetuating EVIL.
Some may have genuine, principled opposition to capital punishment -and understandably,hanging or firing squad- but they're obviously not balancing this out against the victims' view with any sort of moral clarity, nor attempting to spare us from similar crimes in the future- rather, many are just zealots that identify with the black hats- for some strange reason.
Just consider the source- we're talking some of the biggest cult-like idiots on the planet- i.e. Beunka Adams' Manson-esque fan club of 10+ groupies that protested outside court at every turn, including a hunger strike last year... for THIS guy!
There's something seriously wrong with people that identify so strongly with a rotten-to-the-core rapist/killer with SO little consideration for the victims- but it takes a special kind of stupid to marry one...
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KEYWORDS: cobb; execution; gallows; texas
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To: Reaganite Republican
I would prefer an old world tradition...Nail them to a cross.
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posted on
04/27/2013 4:59:15 AM PDT
by
BigCinBigD
(...Was that okay?)
To: Reaganite Republican
Age 29 is young for the death penalty - seems like it can take that many years on death row in other states. Thank you, Texas!
I’m glad they’re both gone, and any method that minimizes the murderer-lover appeals is okay with me. The one 100% guarantee is that these two will never kill another innocent person, which is the most important purpose of capital punishment. As for a more just penalty, I’ll leave that in better hands than our own.
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posted on
04/27/2013 5:06:05 AM PDT
by
Pollster1
("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
To: Reaganite Republican
I agree with the basic point of the article. I would say, however, that Cobb was quite possibly pulling a scam at the last minute, intentionally throwing a wrench into the words by pretending that prisoners were being rewarded with pleasure via the death penalty. I think he had probably planned and rehearsed his little speech of "Thanks" so that he could spring it on the warden and the world and just mess with people's heads.
He seemed like that kind of guy.
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posted on
04/27/2013 5:07:28 AM PDT
by
ClearCase_guy
(The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
To: Reaganite Republican
There is a significant difference between capital punishment and state-sanctioned torture. I have no desire to live in a country whose justice system resembles the one in Saudi Arabia.
The deterrent argument is bogus. Aholes who commit crimes like the one cited don’t take the time to ponder the method that will be used to extinguish them.
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posted on
04/27/2013 5:08:01 AM PDT
by
sakic
To: Reaganite Republican
It should not be difficult to figure out whether murder rates were lower when hanging, versus electrocution, versus lethal injection, were in effect.
What I support is what works best as a deterrent, but only as determined by the statistical evidence.
Whether a particular method of execution mollifies some sensitive liberal on the one hand, or slakes someone's desire for public retribution on the other, should not be the issue.
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posted on
04/27/2013 5:08:54 AM PDT
by
Notary Sojac
('Institutions will try to preserve the problems to which they are a solution.' - Clay Shirky)
To: sakic
I disagree. The death penalty and how it manifests does have an effect on crime.
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posted on
04/27/2013 5:12:53 AM PDT
by
Chickensoup
(200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
To: Notary Sojac
The deterrent dynamic is weakend by endless appeals and long incarcerations beforehand.
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posted on
04/27/2013 5:12:58 AM PDT
by
C. Edmund Wright
(Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
To: BigCinBigD
The Romans perfected crucifiction as a punishment.
We on the other hand go out of our way to make cruel and unusual apply to the victim rather than the criminal.
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posted on
04/27/2013 5:13:59 AM PDT
by
wita
To: ClearCase_guy
Most likly he was messing with heads, however I bet he was messsing with oh, ten milligrams of Valium on board.
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posted on
04/27/2013 5:15:25 AM PDT
by
Chickensoup
(200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
To: ClearCase_guy
I thought maybe he was implying he saw the Gates of Heaven, just to really mind-f everybody to the maximum
To: wita
Crucifixion needsj a come back.
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posted on
04/27/2013 5:36:54 AM PDT
by
BigCinBigD
(...Was that okay?)
To: Reaganite Republican
“justice” today is a joke. Tie the POS to a tree. Give the family and friends of the victim 3 hours. Cut the POS down and throw it into a hole in the ground. Shovel sand over POS.
To: Notary Sojac
The death penalty is a punishment for those sick, twisted, demented, mad dogs that have committed crimes warranting such an outcome. Whether or not it is a deterrent is strictly academic. Knowing these predatory scourges on society have breathed their last and will no longer threaten their fellow man or woman is all that is important. Even in Texas, it takes too long for these wretches to go from the here to the hereafter. And when they do receive the punishment they have earned, it just isn’t enough. They simply slip away, a fate not afforded to their victims.
I agree with other posters, bring back other forms of punishment. Bring back ol’ Sparky, the gas chamber or the hangman’s noose. Let these criminals know a modicum of the fear their victims did before they meet their Maker.
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posted on
04/27/2013 5:47:07 AM PDT
by
bigredkitty1
(March 5,2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
To: bigredkitty1
Maybe the current fascist administration could use some of those zillions of ammo they have recently stockpiled to plug the criminals. Nah...that would be too easy and inexpensive.
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posted on
04/27/2013 6:04:40 AM PDT
by
hal ogen
(First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
To: BigCinBigD
I am ok with death by hanging. In many cases hang by the neck until dead would be more fitting.
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posted on
04/27/2013 6:25:58 AM PDT
by
D Rider
To: Reaganite Republican
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posted on
04/27/2013 6:37:34 AM PDT
by
sten
(fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
To: Reaganite Republican
Much as I agree, lethal injection is perfect for America, home of the liberal douchebag.
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posted on
04/27/2013 6:55:00 AM PDT
by
chris37
(Heartless.)
To: BigCinBigD
I would prefer an old world tradition...Nail them to a cross. For a particularly heinous murder(s)I would suggest impalement. Nothing like contemplating a large sharp stick slowly working it's way up through your body via the anus to deter people from killing others. As far as I am concerned the more painful the means of execution the better, and they should be televised in order that people contemplating a career in crime can see what is in store for them.
I wouldn't be adverse to having the families of victims being able to set the means of execution and maybe actually having an active part in them. Just sayin'.
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posted on
04/27/2013 7:04:14 AM PDT
by
calex59
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