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Boston lockdown: The new normal?
The Politico ^ | April 20, 2013 | Josh Gerstein and Darren Samuelsohn

Posted on 04/20/2013 1:15:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The unprecedented manhunt in Boston that concluded successfully Friday night earned law enforcement authorities the gratitude of the nation.

But as relief replaces fear, the debate about what this episode means for the future is already beginning. And one of the most unsettling questions is whether the violence-related lockdown of a major U.S. city — an extraordinary moment in American history — sets a life-altering precedent.

There are already worries that the effort to protect the people of Boston contained an element of overreaction. Local authorities told the city and nearby suburbs to “shelter in place” throughout the day and into the evening. They closed businesses, shuttered government buildings and suspended all public transportation in the metro area.

That decision concerned some political leaders and policy experts.

Former Sen. Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.) said it is “hard to imagine what could justify directing the entire population of the city to ‘shelter in place.’”

Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger of Maryland, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, stopped short of directly criticizing the decision, but he lamented the development as a win of sorts for terrorists....

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: boston; bostonbombing; bostonmarathon; counterterrorism; leo; martiallaw; terrorism; tsarnaev
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To: BitWielder1
Question for those who were there, did the cops actually go INTO each house and apartment and search it from top to bottom or did they just knock on the front door and ask?

There were pics yesterday of just such a thing. Let me see if I can find them.

41 posted on 04/20/2013 1:42:43 PM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Former Sen. Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.) said it is “hard to imagine what could justify directing the entire population of the city to ‘shelter in place.’”

That’s pure BULLSHIT...it was a 20 square block area were they were in ACTIVE pursuit of armed and deangerous TERRORISTS that had already set off two bombs...shot a cop...engaged in a high speed pursuit while lobbing pipe bombs out the window...

I listened to the boston scanners all night...they werent “systematiclly” searching houses...they were knocking...doing quick looks...checking on residents...and clearing back yards looking for armed terrorist on the run and making sure he hadnt taken anyone hostage...

And since when do we take shit that democrats say seriously ANYWAYS???


42 posted on 04/20/2013 1:42:51 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '12)
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To: freedumb2003

The shutdown of Boston was one of the dumbest things I have ever seen.


It was a cluster _ _ _ _ to apprehend one (1).

I can’t imagine what chaos there would be with 100-200 bad guys loose.


43 posted on 04/20/2013 1:43:25 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals will never get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: steve86

There was another occasion in daylight near a Starbucks where shots were heard, police started running down a side street and then there was a wholebunchalotta shots heard. Never heard anything more about that incident.


44 posted on 04/20/2013 1:44:35 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: steve86

I guess that’s why they were using mainly stun grenades at that point.


45 posted on 04/20/2013 1:44:37 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In all the pressers given by the mayor, guv'nor, etc., they all used the word "request" for people to stay in their homes. A real news organization would look into what these LEO's would have done/did do to people who did not heed their "request".

It was all a dry run anyway. Now they know they can control a significant part of the populace with scary actions and words. The "next time" something like this occurs, there won't be a "request".

Were they really entering and searching homes without warrants? If they had knocked on my door, I would have told them that we were safe, hadn't seen anyone suspicious (unless I had, of course), and to move along (after wishing them luck and to stay safe).

Finally, I thought it was quite funny that the local news "media" beat the FBI to the sister's residence!!

46 posted on 04/20/2013 1:44:49 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: andyk
Was it a lawful order? Did it require executive action from the governor? Was it just a polite request with no legal ramifications? Inquiring minds want to know.

Very good questions.

Every now and then a major snow storm hits where I live.

The local authorities go on the radio and TV asking that people stay off the streets.

Most things shut down.

It is not an order. The worse that will happen to you if you go out and have to be rescued is that you will be featured in a news story and all your neighbors will laugh at you for the next twenty year.

If the Boston lockdown was like that then ok.

If it was a forced lockdown then there is a problem.

47 posted on 04/20/2013 1:45:09 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Promotional Fee Paid for by "Ouchies" The Sharp, Prickly Toy You Bathe With!)
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To: Old Sarge
I have it on some authority that the lockdown order came from the Governor.

It might be useful to mention that this past winter, MA had a snowstorm, and the governor ordered everyone off the roads.

We get bad storms all the time in MA. No governor has ever ordered everyone off the roads for 24 hours before.

We are in a new era, led by people like Deval Patrick and Barack Obama -- the government is in tight control of all aspects of your life. America has turned the corner, and finding a way back will not be easy.

48 posted on 04/20/2013 1:45:37 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: Old Sarge

Thanks, Sarge.


49 posted on 04/20/2013 1:45:53 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One time in my corner of Texas, there was a local jailbreak, with a loose escapee regarded as armed and dangerous. That night, a foggy night, I had to make a drive to visit my parents, ten miles away. On EVERY single street corner, throughout the neighborhood and entire town, there were about 5 to 8 citizens standing by, with rifles in hands. All on the lookout, protecting their community.

It was really something to behold. I could be wrong, but this isn’t something I’d expect to see up in the liberal, gun-hating northeast.


50 posted on 04/20/2013 1:46:02 PM PDT by greene66
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Re: my post on the MA snowstorm -- I agree that requests to stay off the roads can be appropriate in some parts of the country during snow emergencies. In MA, the governor ordered everyone off the roads. I believe the fine was $500 if you drove that day.

That ain't right.

51 posted on 04/20/2013 1:48:33 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
It might be useful to mention that this past winter, MA had a snowstorm, and the governor ordered everyone off the roads.

Gov. of CT did just that back in late 70's.

52 posted on 04/20/2013 1:48:48 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: andyk

I think Boston did the best they could with the situation they had. Of course armchair quarterbacks will condemn the decision, but I think it was brilliant and a 100 percent success! Congrats to the entire city of Boston!!! What a first rate city!


53 posted on 04/20/2013 1:50:28 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: Old Sarge
For the most part, cell towers have backup power so that a loss of power doesn't interrupt service.

It would be very unusual for a cell tower not to have backup power.

54 posted on 04/20/2013 1:51:31 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: BitWielder1
Okay, the pic is a bit big, but here goes:


55 posted on 04/20/2013 1:53:30 PM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: napscoordinator

Not condemning any decision, just asking what should be very simple questions, that quite frankly, should’ve been asked and answered quickly by the MSM.

Martial law is a big deal to me.

Always wondered - any relation to Sir Napsalot?


56 posted on 04/20/2013 1:54:49 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Totally agree, Guy. I recall the storm orders now.

Just how far down this road are we going to drive before we hit the brakes?


57 posted on 04/20/2013 1:55:27 PM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: steve86
“My only question is regarding the action on semi-autos — it isn’t going to cycle with blanks, is it?”

Sure it will.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOiO9I-iH8s

58 posted on 04/20/2013 1:55:51 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: laplata

Try 5,000


59 posted on 04/20/2013 1:56:06 PM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This was the live all night thread with scanner traffic transcribed:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3009598/posts


60 posted on 04/20/2013 1:57:46 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '12)
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