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Give Pot a Chance
N. Y. Times ^ | 11-22-2012 | TIMOTHY EGAN

Posted on 11/28/2012 12:57:41 PM PST by Renfield

SEATTLE – In two weeks, adults in this state will no longer be arrested or incarcerated for something that nearly 30 million Americans did last year. For the first time since prohibition began 75 years ago, recreational marijuana use will be legal; the misery-inducing crusade to lock up thousands of ordinary people has at last been seen, by a majority of voters in this state and in Colorado, for what it is: a monumental failure.

That is, unless the Obama administration steps in with an injunction, as it has threatened to in the past, against common sense. For what stands between ending this absurd front in the dead-ender war on drugs and the status quo is the federal government. It could intervene, citing the supremacy of federal law that still classifies marijuana as a dangerous drug....

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TOPICS: Agriculture; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: cannabis; drugs; drugwar; liberalagenda; marijuana; prodope; surrendermonkeys; surrenderwod; warondrugs; wod; wodlist; wosd
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

I don’t know about official studies,but I do know from vast personal experience and the observations I made with the many addicts I knew personally.


121 posted on 11/29/2012 3:39:55 PM PST by Freestate316 (Know what you believe and why you believe it.)
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To: little jeremiah
Neither of you has refuted a single point I’ve made.

Actually, your fantasy of how to end illegal dealing lies in smoldering ruins.

Have a nice day.

Flee, coward, flee.

122 posted on 11/29/2012 7:54:25 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("mouth piece from the pit of hell" (Bellflower, 11/10/2012))
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To: Freestate316
The gateway claim is nonsense - research shows that the correlation between earlier marijuana use and later use of other drugs can be explained by a "common-factor" model, that is, a third factor that causes both results, such as individuals' opportunities and unique propensities to use drugs, or more broadly a social or psychological predisposition towards anti-social behavior. (http://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB6010/index1.html, http://rds.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs2/hors253.pdf)

Also note that the same sort of correlation between earlier marijuana and later harder drugs also exists between earlier alcohol and tobacco and later illegal drugs - so if marijuana is a "gateway" so are alcohol and tobacco.

I don’t know about official studies,but I do know from vast personal experience and the observations I made with the many addicts I knew personally.

So you know for a fact that they didn't have individual opportunities and unique propensities to use drugs, or social or psychological predispositions towards anti-social behavior?

123 posted on 11/29/2012 7:57:57 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("mouth piece from the pit of hell" (Bellflower, 11/10/2012))
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To: Resolute Conservative
I feel the same about alcohol. If your life sucks enough you need a chronic escape then I pity you.

Should that drug be illegal?

Trust me I am more limited government than you have a clue about.

Except when you're not.

124 posted on 11/29/2012 8:00:43 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("mouth piece from the pit of hell" (Bellflower, 11/10/2012))
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Sure if a state says yes not the feds.

See second part about apathy the big culture killer. You have to be on one side of fence or another.


125 posted on 11/29/2012 8:36:18 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative
Should that drug [alcohol] be illegal?

Sure if a state says yes not the feds.

Should the states be the only ones who can make other drugs illegal?

See second part about apathy the big culture killer. You have to be on one side of fence or another.

I have no idea how that's relevant to this thread.

126 posted on 11/29/2012 8:46:03 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("mouth piece from the pit of hell" (Bellflower, 11/10/2012))
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Has nothing to do with cowardice, and everything to do with not wanting to waste time by “debating” with people who cannot think rationally, just type out liberaltarian slogans as though such slogans were cogent thoughts and completely ignore any points made in rebuttal to them. That’s why I step around poop on the ground, too. Wastes time scraping it off my shoes.


127 posted on 11/29/2012 9:30:14 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah
type out liberaltarian slogans as though such slogans were cogent thoughts

LOL! Your blather about "eliminating corruption and leftist crap" (as just one example) is more of a slogan than anything I posted.

and completely ignore rebut any points made in rebuttal to them.

There, now that's correct.

128 posted on 11/30/2012 7:24:26 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("mouth piece from the pit of hell" (Bellflower, 11/10/2012))
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To: Renfield

They’ll have to put a fed agent withe each state/local leo just to enforce this, won’t they? How will they even know someone is in possesion of it?


129 posted on 11/30/2012 8:08:34 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr
Effective enforcement of the War On Users Of Disapproved Substances would definitely require a Big Brother police state. And yet some would have us believe that this War is a "conservative" policy.
130 posted on 11/30/2012 9:25:39 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("mouth piece from the pit of hell" (Bellflower, 11/10/2012))
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

I too think the Founders would be appalled at the WoD. For profit prisons, no knock warrants, militarized police, dead grandmothers and dogs, asset forfeiture have perverted our constitution.

Really, what part of the WoD is in any way ‘conserving’ the constitution?


131 posted on 11/30/2012 12:31:15 PM PST by IDFbunny
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