Posted on 10/27/2012 6:06:00 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
It would have been a presidential decision.
Typical top brass military politician; he threw his lot in with this contemptible POS POTUS, and now runs for the hills to save his own skin. If he had real brass balls, he should’ve figured out a way to go around that pu$$y and have military intervention take place to save those real Americans in Bengazi, even if it cost him his job. Oh well, too much to lose, I guess, however in the the end hopefully truth wins out.
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Obviously the current occupant of the oval office is the one who made the decision. No one in this administration can do anything on their own. The Anointed One is in charge and gives all the orders.
He has not yet been impeached, which proves that half the American public has its head up its a$$, the mainstream media have deliberately chosen to protect him, and the Republican party is a bunch of wimps.
Uh, I respect Petreaus- Obama coaxed him into the CIA to politically neutralize him, but I for one am happy to see him there, one element of sanity in this foul administration.
As far as Libya goes, looks like Hillary, Petraeus, and others all came out for providing the aid the consulate was asking for... and the guy that stopped them’s about to lose his job over it, among other things
Regrettably sometimes the brass has to wait to show brass. This perhaps was/is one of those times. Am grateful some, with brass, are speaking up. By speaking up, it makes it more difficult for zer0 and his crowd to coverup.
The US Congress should be replaced and indicted
for allowing a coup d'etat by al Qaeda after 9/11.
Follow the graphics to the part about Eisenhower never taking credit for D-Day. The truth of that was that Eisenhower prepared to take responsibility if it had been the disaster it could have been.
Eisenhower prepared a headline to release if the good guys lost on Normandy. It said: Our Forces have been withdrawn from Normandy.
Eisenhower scratched that and replaced it wirh: I have withdrawn our forces from Normandy.
An interesting difference with our Child-in-Chief...Obama doesn't know what it's like to take responsibility when there is need for heavy lifting. He never actually experienced it, responsibility, that is...or heavy lifting.
If Patraeus feels that his CIA is being smeared, then he should resign in protest. That would get everyone's attention. A protest resignation is something that the MSM would have to report.
Anything less will have no impact at all.
Petraeus on Benghazi: It Wasn’t Me
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/10/26/Petraeus-on-Benghazi-It-Wasnt-Me
For example, Marines and SEALs practice NEO ops prior to deploying on every float, as a VERY high priority mission. They involve full dress-rehearsals, with civilian role players, helos, landing craft, rounding up stranded stragglers, opfor ambushes, role-playing "angry mobs," fighting your way to LZs or even beaches while protecting a gaggle of civilians down to babies etc. Conducting successful NEO ops is a TOP TOP TOP military and state department mission priority. I cannot emphasize this enough. NEO ops are planned and practiced over and over and over.
When the alarm goes off worldwide that an embassy or consulate is being attacked, the entire U.S. military swings into rescue mode, without waiting for any orders from the White House. The military does all of the operational planning and begins to execute the rescue op.
The one thing they CAN'T do is cross an international border without permission from POTUS. So the US Military will be inbound full-steam-ahead to make the rescue, and all they need from POTUS is a "proceed" order. In this case, they got a "stand down" instead.
This is at the POTUS level, it is not a decision taken at State. State and the military (JCS) should be in the Situation Room with POTUS soon after a critical incident like this begins, so all decisions can be made in real time. (I have heard nowhere that POTUS went into the Situation Room at all. Apparently he went to the Oval Office briefly, but not down to the Situation Room, where the "war planning" screens, full staffs and commo tools are all located for dealing with a major crisis.)
But if POTUS punts after a brief Oval Office meeting with Dempsey and Hillary and goes upstairs to the family quarters....the stranded Americans will die.
Only POTUS can give the order to cross international borders. Only POTUS can allow US warplanes to give air support to Americans battling on the ground in a foreign country. If POTUS makes himself unavailable, the Americans will die.
Even the VEEP or Secretary of State cannot make that call. The VEEP can only do it if the POTUS is determined to be medically unable to perform his functions. If the POTUS goes upstairs and turns off his phone, there is nothing anybody can do about it. Nothing. And the besieged Americans will die.
On Friday an anonymous Pentagon insider ("Doug") called into Rush with a lot of new details about this disgraceful fiasco. But what we really need now is for a high-ranking officer with insider knowledge to go public, risk his pension and career, and tell the truth.
The blame for this humiliating and shameful national disgrace is pointing directly at the POTUS, and America needs to know why the inbound rescue operation was aborted.
Don’t we have several folks who were there that evacuated?
Can they not be asked about what went down?
What about this 5 pm meeting at the WH. Who was in attendance? what was discussed?
Another question I have:
If the two heroes had not disobeyed orders and gone to the Consulate to help, how many others were there and how many others may have been killed?
There are some serious questions here that need serious answers
On d day, the germans could not launch a counter attack on the allies because hitler decided to sleep, and was not to be disturbed.....
familiar sounding, isn’t it?
Patraeus may or may not resign. I truly do not know. At this time though, there has to be someone who will say what is true, and keep eyes on the zer0 crowd for the good that will come from having done such. The media will do what they always do, unfortunately, and will spout the liberal lies, regrettably, no matter how this plays out. The media thinks they have made a deal with the devil, and when the devil turns on the media only then will the media, supporting zer0 and zer0’s crowd, realize their mistake. God and Generals sometimes take the road not taken by the masses. This may be one of those times. I truly do not know. I do know this. I would always like to have someone on the inside. Especially now. If Mr. Patraeus is the person in this role, along with others, am grateful, for the lies will be more difficult to cover-up.
Thx Steve
Those rotate, so here’s the link. You are SO right, he had the blame-taking speech all ready to go in the event it was needed... Thank God it was not
It's my understanding these brave souls evacuated about 30 people, then went back to find the Ambassador and one (or two) other people they were unable to locate before.
I've also read the supposed mastermind to this operation was (conveniently) killed at another location about a week ago.
Like you, I've been very curious to find out about what happened to these 30 witnesses, despite the fact they probably don't have a clue to the military aspect of the operation.
THIRTY people don't just disappear, but I have been unable to find much of anything..... like their names or their purpose for being there.
Admirals and generals have excellent retirements. Any admiral or general could retire and live very comfortably. I think that’s one reason they do have a good retirement. They can retire as a means of protest. How many have? It always comes down to the same argument with them, “Yes, I could resign in protest, but then the Democrats would cut the budget to get revenge.” The Democrats will cut the military budget anyway.
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