Breitbart.com will NOT have an Obama bombshell video

PolitiJim.com ^ | 4/28/2012 | PolitiJim (@politiJim)

[arthurus]

If they are “playing a fade” and there really are videos then they will not survive to release them. The only safe way to handle this kind of information is to get it public NOW an negate the value of killing the messenger.

[LibertyRocks]

Thanks much for the link. I had missed the info. about Rush’s package as well.

[arthurus]

facts will have been scrubbed or changed

We need to be precise-conservative in our use of language. Imprecise grammar leads to imprecise thinking and acceptance of leftist redefinitions. Facts cannot change. Reporting of facts can change from truthful to fallacious to simply lying about them. I am not chastising you because that use of the word is normal nowdays and liberals promote that sort of imprecision and worse. I am just trying in a tiny way to get intelligent and, yes, God-fearing people to be consciously conservative i.e. precise in their use of words.

[little jeremiah]

I think the adage of “none so blind as he who does not wish to see” applies. Look at David Horowitz - a red diaper doper baby, used to be the editor of “Ramparts” (which I read as a leftist raised teenager) and now is pretty much conservative. Change can happen, whether bright, a genius, or average. The person just has to WANT to know the truth, and be willing to give up fondly held belief.

That’s the hard part. It’s not intellect or lack thereof, it’s sincerity to know the truth.

[little jeremiah]

There is no way to establish without inside connections into the coroners’ office, and now one of the people who knew just died of arsenic poisoning.

Sheesh.

[little jeremiah]

You are correct. I should have said:

facts will have been scrubbed or exchanged for lies.

;-)

And I agree about releasing the videos. Same thing with all these people and organizations who were threatened. If even a goodly percentage of them stood up togehter and had a press conference and stated how they’d been threatened the threats would be nullified.

Chickens. Pantswetting neutered sissies.

[PieterCasparzen]

A good number of the founders of the country were more Deists or had varying degrees of belief in the divinity of Jesus Christ

Franklin and Jefferson could be classified as deists, but not Washington; there is far too much evidence to the contrary when his original writings are consulted.

In total about 5% of those characterized as "founders" could fairly be characterized as deists or having a doctrine that was generally accepted as unscriptural.

yet their words are true and still a guiding light (or could be)

The Constitution, while a worthy effort, admittedly left various and incredibly significant open questions, mostly resulting from the fact that it needed to be a negotiation between all the colonies. It was crafted in a very succint manner, in an effort to avoid future wrangling of complex sentences that too specifically tried to spell out every detail. However, the intended meanings in the simple, elegant structure have been so twisted by lawyers over the centuries that the thing has been basically trampled. Man being imperfect, he crafts an imperfect document and goes about interpreting it imperfectly. The overriding key feature of our founding documents, however, is that they create a legitimate nation; as a nation, therefore, we rely on the Constitution and uphold it.

The core of my comment was that people who are called Gentiles in the New Testament, i.e., everyone who is not Jewish, were largely the composition of American at it's founding. They would only have access to God through Christ the mediator. Thus, an appeal to the Creator and "certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" is logically resting on the fact that the Bible is a true testimony. The whole thing rests on the Creator, who has endowed with rights, and the New Testament and Jesus Christ, in order for colonial Americans to claim that the God of the Bible has granted them anything. Of course, if the Creator is removed from the document, then we the people were not endowed with these rights, because there would be no Creator to do so; we the people would then simply be claiming them based on our own desires.

Is it any wonder that communists seek to remove the Christian faith from America ? The Declaration of Independence - the original assertion of the rights of citizens - rests on the Christian faith.

If a person speaks of spirits and gods other than the God of the Bible - such talk is nothing but superstition. Simply saying "I feel there is a spirit", or worshiping a tree, etc., all such things are irrational drivel and nonsense. It would make utterly no sense at all to appeal to a rock as a god. The Bible says (eminently clearly) that such talk is offensive to God and true believers are commanded to never worship anything but the one true God; a good starting point to read is Exodus 20.

In Jesus' own words in the Bible:

John 14:6

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

Jesus proclaimed that he was truth itself.

In our new-agey, secular-humanist society, which really started in a significant way in the 1800's, people who seek to reject the Bible have typically never actually studied the Bible, yet they feel quite qualified to comment on it. While they would never profess to be an aeronautical engineer or a sculptor unless they studied those fields - and they would laugh at someone who claimed to be them but never studied - they themselves assume that they have an understanding of the Bible, when they have not studied it. If they did truly study it, they would first become scared out of their wits. Because they would begin to realize how demanding God is in his perfect justice and start to have an inkling as to how far they fall short (of course, the first steps one finds oneself taking in belief).

[LibertyRocks]

Thanks, LJ! I think the horrid meds are out of my system as that’s been the problem the last 2 months - allergic reactions/poisoning. It’ll all be worth it if I stop having migraines or possible absence seizures.

[LibertyRocks]

Excellent point, LJ. I think you’re right. The desire to seek the truth and face it no matter whether it challenges your previously held beliefs or not is the key. Thanks for the reminder. :)

[IrishPennant]

Agreed!!!

[Flotsam_Jetsome]

Thanks for the Ping.

This is what I'd been looking for. Non-release of promised damaging videoS is what tears it for me.

Dude was silenced.

[samtheman]

If they are “playing a fade” and there really are videos then they will not survive to release them. The only safe way to handle this kind of information is to get it public NOW an negate the value of killing the messenger.

As many people have suggested, Breitbart's fatal mistake was warning that he had this material instead of making it all public all at once with no advance warning. For all his brilliance as a political analyst, he failed to see an obvious strategic blunder on his part.

[fatnotlazy]

Uh...where is it written that the staffer died from arsenic poisoning? Nothing has been proven. Toxicology tests are still pending. We don't know whether his death was accidental, foul play or what.

And do you know what role this staffer played in Mr. Breitbart’s autopsy? Did he even do any work related to the autopsy? I don't know about all coroner offices, but where I live there is an extensive staff. Not every employee works on every case.

This is what I mean about rumor and speculation. No prosecutor is going to investigate these incidents further just because some Freepers have suspicions. There has to be something more tangible.

[fatnotlazy]

And the guy who very likely photographed Breitbart’s body for the coroner was the very guy who was killed under suspicious circumstances ...

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We don’t know that the employee was killed. He died, but the cause and manner of death have not been established.

One thing to remember is that journalism these days is sloppy. Look at the reported cause of Mr. Breitbart’s death. Heart failure. My guess is the reporter saw those words on the report or heard the coroner mention them and just wrote down heart failure as the cause of death. Whatever...careless reporting incites all sorts of problems. A poor choice of words causes chaos. Is it deliberate? Maybe, maybe not. But when we rely on this sloppy reporting, it leads us to draw a number of erroneous conclusions. And we focus on a manufactured issue, while ignoring so many other, real issues.

[butterdezillion]

Not vague at all to anybody who’s on the Nut-job Conspiracy list. ;)

There are so many details that fit together, that if a person has been getting their news from the alphabet networks rather than on a place like Free Republic they are genuinely living in an alternate reality, and the bad thing is that I don’t know if there’s enough remedial work that could even be done to catch them up to speed, with the pace of the takeover accelerating daily.

What you said makes perfect sense to me, and matches a lot of the feelings I’m dealing with.

[butterdezillion]

Offing Joe Farrah would be too obvious, because Farrah has made this his signature project.

So they’ve Alinsky-ed him instead. In order to mock the “birthers” they had to have somebody they could pin down on it, isolate the, mock them, etc as an example to everybody else. Farrah was their scapegoat, and it’s worked just as they planned. Soros couldn’t threaten everybody. He didn’t threaten the “conservative” blogs like Red State, Ace of Spades, etc. Those mid-level sources instead had to take their cues by seeing what happened to Farrah (for instance) and how the (threatened) bigger “conservatives” ridiculed them. Those trying to climb the ladder were scared by what happened to Farrah.

The same kind of thing happened with Hot Air, which was owned by Michelle Malkin. Malkin is a Fox contributor so she was threatened. I don’t know whether Malkin passed those threats on to Ed Morissey and Allahpundit, or whether they just copycatted the threatened “conservatives” because they didn’t want to go the way of Farrah. In any event, I never once found them willing to listen to facts, and that has turned me off from them on just about everything.

Free Republic has been a haven of sanity for me. But even here, there are people who are afraid of the “conspiracy theory looniness” (as they call it) here because they think it will get Free Republic ridiculed just like WND is ridiculed by “conservatives” (the threatened ones).

So it’s actually a massive experiment on the power of peer pressure. For bullies to get the popular wannabes to fall in line, they have to have somebody to ridicule so everybody else knows what will happen to them if they leave the reservation. That’s what Farrah has been. It was about all Soros could do anyway, because killing him outright would have been too obvious.

[little jeremiah]

There is no way to know if he directly had anything to do with Breitbart’s coroner report or not. Maybe he did and maybe he didn’t. But if this doesn’t raise some suspicions in your mind, you need to recalibrate your mind.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2877931/posts

Breitbart’s coroner poisoned to death?
WND ^ | APRIL 29, 2012 | Joe Kovacs

Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2012 3:51:22 PM by RobinMasters

Medical examiners in Los Angeles are investigating the possible poisoning death of one of their own officials who may have worked on the case of Andrew Breitbart, the conservative firebrand who died March 1, the same day Sheriff Joe Arpaio announced probable cause for forgery in President Obama’s birth certificate.

Michael Cormier, a respected forensic technician for the Los Angeles County Coroner died under suspicious circumstances at his North Hollywood home April 20, the same day Breitbart’s cause of death was finally made public.

“There are mysterious circumstances surrounding his death,” said Elizabeth Espinosa, a news reporter for KTLA-TV. “We’re told detectives are looking into the possibility that he was poisoned by arsenic.”

Cormier, 61, had been rushed to Providence St. Joseph Medical Center in Burbank after complaining of pain and vomiting.

“He was transported there early in the morning, and passed away late at night,” Ed Winter, assistant chief of operations and Cormier’s colleague at the Los Angeles County Department of Coroner, told KTLA. “It affects everybody when you lose a co-worker, but we’ll proceed and do our job and try to figure out why Michael died.”

The hospital then notified Los Angeles Police about Cormier’s death.

“At this point we haven’t ruled out foul play,” police Lt. Alan Hamilton told the Los Angeles Times. “It is one of the things being considered. We are waiting for the coroner’s results.”

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...

[little jeremiah]

I hope you don’t have any more of those things!!!

[butterdezillion]

The point remains: the person who may well have photographed Breitbart’s body died right at the point in time when the photos he took would be the only proof of assassination that would come out in the final autopsy results due out a week later.

The ER staff and cops say the death is suspicious. Speculation, sure, but that’s what they’re trained to identify and investigate.

There are a BUNCH of dots - facts - which when put all together form a pretty clear picture.

I’ve asked you for your explanation for some of those dots and you won’t give me one. For instance, why did Breitbart’s friends claim that he was hospitalized for 2 weeks after a heart attack within the last year when the coroner says he hadn’t seen a doctor in over a year and there were no prescription meds in his body? You’re riding us for making assumptions based on the facts we do have rather than waiting for more facts - but there is DISINFORMATION being put out there that also needs to be explained. Why the disinformation from people who are SUPPOSED to be more trustworthy because they have access to know the truth?

The disinformation is one dot. There are a lot more. And together they form a very clear picture.

Are you aware of the threats made to the media if they reported on the eligibility issue? Are you aware of the threats and the actual deaths (Bill Gwatney and Stephanie Tubbs) that were used to scare Bill and Hillary away from pursuing the eligibility issue? Are you aware of the media personnel who have quit their jobs or left the country because of the threats? Are you aware of Breitbart’s conversation with Arpaio less than 5 hours before he died? Are you aware of the bomb scare for Rush Limbaugh the same day as Arpaio’s presser? Are you aware of the killing of Osama bin Laden as soon as people began to realize his long-form was fake?

These are all dots that have to be accounted for. There are also more personal dots - stuff that I have seen which tell me what these people are like. If they keep tabs on piddly old me, I can only imagine how they have Breitbart monitored.

[arthurus]

I am a bit apprehensive that the kenyan is maybe not expecting a post presidential period.