The lds-org denies that Jesus is the Creator, that everything was created THROUGH Him, BY Him and FOR Him.
The lds-org is a thief of the Name and the Truth of Jesus Christ.
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I thought Romney was pro-abortion.
I don’t care what your position is on Romney as a candidate, this is third-hand unsourced “information” from the Huffington Post. i.e., CRAP!
Ok, I’m no fan of Romney, but I’m not seeing anything untoward here. One would expect the same counsel from a Baptist pastor or a Catholic priest.
As Mormon, Mitt dreamed to have seven wives, just like his grand-father.
So what is it? Do you hate mitt because he’s a pro abortion liberal or becasue he’s a pro life Mormon?
Obama opposition research in action.
This story follows the “GOP war on women” meme. It’s no coincidence that this comes out after the Ann Romney dustup.
Romney should answer this with "Yeah that's great, now when you're done with this non-story that supposedly happened in the 70s, we can talk about the true unemployment rate of 16%.". "Ok Ms HuffPo reporter, what policies has YOUR candidate put forward in the past 3 1/2 years to grow the economy?"
Mitt worships the god he believe he will one day be.
I guess I’m missing the point here. She was considering abortion and claims Romney demanded she give it up for adoption instead?
This isn’t exactly an attack on Romney.
Or is that your point, trying to make Romney appear pro-life despite his anti-life record?
Coincidence?
Interesting that you have linked an article from Huffington Post that has been cheered by Obama’s supporters for the most part. Is it your intention to assist Obama’s reelection efforts.
Secondly, you list Robert Tilford as the article’s author, but the link you provided lists Peggy Fletcher Stack as the article’s author. Interestingly, Robert Tilford seems to claim credit for the authorship of the article on the Examiner.com site, but the HuffPo link he provides says otherwise.
Mr. Tilford also lists himself as a “Military Professional,” but his profile lists his service as January 1984– January 1990 (6 years 1 month)and his military rank after those 73 months of service as Private.
What’s going on here?
The source is questionable. If Romney actually said that, then it’s one of the few times he has done the right thing.
As I understand it, Mormons are mostly pro-life, but are willing to make exceptions that, for instance, the Catholic Church would not condone. It says here that her “stake president,” whatever that means—presumably someone in authority—had told her to go ahead with the abortion, when Romney intervened.
But then Romney went ahead and promoted abortion in Massachusetts, said that he was “pro-choice,” and enabled taxpayer-funded abortions. So, I guess it depends where his own political advantage lies.
When I was young, which is when Romney was young, church girls in our denomination were regularly advised to give the child up for adoption. They’d go away for a few months, and then come back and carry on with school as if nothing had happened. It was the times.
Now even church girls have the baby and raise it with the blessings of church and family, but thats now. That wasn’t then.
I don’t like Romney but if you go back a few decades most “good girls” were being advised the same thing in the same situation. This is sad personal history for all concerned but I’ve got much bigger reasons to dislike Romney, and bigger reasons yet to dislike O.
Go Newt!
Not a Romney supporter, but this poorly-written mess of an excerpt (not going to the virus-zaminer blog) actually makes Romney look better.
Was that your point? To make Romney look better?
You have your head where the sun don’t shine!
To start with a Mormon Bishop in in charge of about 350 to 400 ward members, not Thousands. A Mormon Bishop cannot just order somebody ex-communicated. All the Bishop can do is request a Bishops court after extensive meetings and talks with the Stake leaders, where there is a review of the facts.
If he was trying to talk somebody out of another baby(Think Octo Mom) is because in most of those cases the Ward has to pay for everything(Food, Rent, Medical, transportation etc.) This money does not come from Salt Lake, it is the burden of the local members.
Would you want to pay for that kind of recreational behavior?
The lds-org denies that Jesus is the Creator, that everything was created THROUGH Him, BY Him and FOR Him.
The lds-org is a thief of the Name and the Truth of Jesus Christ.
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If he indeed said that, I stand behind him on it.
I’m not a Mormom, but the principle applies.
If you believe God forbids abortion, and you do it anyway, you are leaving God.
It is not the unforgiveable sin, but it is a break. We can’t just run around killing people and saying it’s no big deal.
It’s beginning and it’s really going to get ugly as the campaigns move on throught the summer and fall. Will “o” come out and condemn the trashing of another man’s religion or will it be fair game to do the same of his beliefs if anyone in the GOP has the guts to do it?? His certainly isn’t Christianity so why not just say it?
Jan Mickelson reads a Mormon statement that says Mormons are against abortion, but Romney denies this and says you can be for abortion and be a good Mormon. He says Mormons in leadership position believe in abortion. Listen to what he says about the Mormon Church and abortion at 10:58 into the tape on this thread.
I think this tape should have a different title,something like “Mitt, Mormons, and Abortion flip-flops” would be better.
Mitt Romney alledges hidden camera incident (Mitt's Meltdown Caught on Tape)
| YEAR | Obvious Pro-Abortion Romney | Romney Feigning 'Pro-Life' |
| Bottom-Line Summary: ANN Romney Lies Thru Her Teeth | Ann Romney, 1994: Romney's wife gives donation to Planned Parenthood (Ann Romney’s Planned Parenthood Donation | Ann Romney, 2011: In the past you’ve said he’s changed positions only once, on abortion. Was that your doing? No, no, I never talked to Mitt about that. Our personal opinions have never changed; we’ve always been pro-life (Ann Romney Reveals Mitt's Softer Side) |
| Bottom-Line Summary: Mitt Romney Lies Thru His Teeth | “Over the last multiple years, as you know, I have been effectively pro-choice." (Bruce Smith, "Romney Campaigns in SC with Sen. DeMint," The Associated Press, 1/29/07) + ...”my position was effectively pro-choice." (Source: 2007 GOP Iowa Straw Poll debate 8/5/2007) | So, not only does Ann Romney tell Parade Magazine November 2011 that they've “never changed” re: abortion and that they've “always been pro-life,” but Mitt Romney told Chris Wallace part-way through their 2007 campaign that: “I never allowed myself to use the word pro-choice because I didn't FEEL I was pro-choice. I would protect the law, I said, as it was, but I wasn't pro-choice”...This was seven months after he said in January 2007 that he was “always for life.” |
| Romney, goin' back to 1970 when Romney's Mom ran for Senate | "I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time when my Mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a U.S. Senate candidate. (October, 1994 Senatorial debate vs. Ted Kennedy) | "'He's been a pro-life Mormon faking it as a pro-choice friendly,'" Romney adviser Michael Murphy told the conservative National Review..., says the Concord Monitor = So I guess that made him a below-the-radar "flip" acting like a "flop?" |
| 1994 (Campaign) | "I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time when my Mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a U.S. Senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years that we should sustain and support it, and I sustain and support that law and the right of a woman to make that choice." (October, 1994 Senatorial debate vs. Ted Kennedy) = Mitt the flipster from what most LDS represent their faith as being...BTW, Romney uses the strongest word possible for support – “sustain” ...Note for non-Mormons: Lds use the word “sustain” for support for their own “prophet” | Romney has since invoked a "nuanced stance" about what he was in 1994: He says "Look, I was pro-choice. I am pro-life. You can go back to YouTube and look at what I said in 1994. I never said I was pro-choice, but my position was effectively pro-choice. (Source: Source: 2007 GOP Iowa Straw Poll debate Aug 5, 2007) |
| 1994 (Planned Parenthood ties) → 2001 | (a) Romney's wife gives donation to Planned Parenthood (a href="http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/05/09/ann-romneys-planned-parenthood-donation/">Ann Romney’s Planned Parenthood Donation (b) On June 12, 1994, Romney himself attends private Planned Parenthood event at home of a sister-in-law of a Planned Parenthood board member where the president of Planned Parenthood recalls talking to Romney: "Nicki Nichols Gamble, a former president and chief executive of Planned Parenthood League of Massachusetts, said today that the photo shows Mitt and Ann Romney at a private home in Cohasset in June 1994." Source: See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1941932/posts; "Gamble said the pic was snapped at an event at GOP activist Eleanor Bleakie’s house and that she “clearly” remembered speaking with Romney at the event." Source: See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1941627/posts; "In fact Romney personally attended the Planned Parenthood event in question on June 12, 1994. Gamble, the President of Massachusuetts Planned Parenthood in 1994, also attended the event at the home of a Republican, Eleanor Bleakie, the sister-in-law of a Planned Parenthood Board member. Both Romney and Michael Kennedy, who appeared on behalf of nephew of Ted Kennedy, attended the event." Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1941240/posts | 2001: "I do not wish to be labeled pro-choice." (Mitt Romney, Letter to the Editor, The Salt Lake Tribune, 7/12/01) = So he doesn't want to be known as a "flop" (so what is he?) |
| 2002-2004 | “I will preserve and protect a woman’s right to choose, and have devoted and am dedicated to honoring my word in that regard…(Nov. 2, 2002) = Well, now guess what? He's solidly pro-abortion AGAIN! See also: "I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose. This choice is a deeply personal one … Women should be free to choose based on their own beliefs, not mine and not the government's." (Stephanie Ebbert, "Clarity Sought On Romney's Abortion Stance," The Boston Globe, 7/3/05) = Ah, back securely in the "flop" saddle again? | Nov. '04: Romney & his wife had simultaneous pro-life "conversions" linked to stem cell research: Romney met w/Dr. Douglas Melton from Harvard Stem Cell Institute: He recalls that it happened in a single revelatory moment, during a Nov. 9, 2004, meeting with an embryonic-stem-cell researcher who said he didn't believe therapeutic cloning presented a moral issue because the embryos were destroyed at 14 days. "It hit me very hard that we had so cheapened the value of human life in a Roe v. Wade environment that it was important to stand for the dignity of human life," Romney says. Source: Time Mag, March 9, 2007 = (So the pro-abortion-but-no-pro-choice-label-please-is-now-a-pro-life-convert?) |
| 2005 | May 27 2005: Romney affirms his commitment to being "pro-choice" at a press conference. ("I am absolutely committed to my promise to maintain the status quo with regards to laws relating to abortion and choice.") = OK, this is at least a flop from November '04! | What about his gubernatorial record '03-'06? Mitt later says his actions were ALL pro-life. I assume somewhere in '05 some 'pro-life' decisions. "As governor, I’ve had several pieces of legislation reach my desk, which would have expanded abortion rights in Massachusetts. Each of those I vetoed. Every action I’ve taken as the governor that relates to the sanctity of human life, I have stood on the side of life." = So, THESE ACTIONS were not only an '02 commitment reversal, but his May 27, '05 press conference commitment as well. So "flipping" is beginning to be routine |
Hat tip Colofornian