Posted on 03/02/2012 11:01:10 AM PST by jmaroneps37
Anyone who actually watched the presentation from Sheriff Joe Arpiao’s all-volunteer Cold Case Posse knows the truth about how much of a fraud Barack Obama is.
If we had an honest media news as important as what Arpiao and his people presented would have demanded that ALL media – TV and radio cover his press conference live from start to finish. Those who watched the presentation also understand that if it had been nationally broadcast and the American people heard and saw the actual evidence, Obama would be gone by May.
Nevertheless, instead of reporting what Arpiao presented the AP and others took the opportunity to attack Arpiao personally. Not surprisingly the now toothless feckless Glenn Beck pandered to the Left and joined the AP. He gave himself away by using their stock lie “Theories that the president’s birth certificate is fake have been widely discredited.”
Mr. Beck isn’t it really the truth that you didn’t have the nerve to simply report what Arpiao presented for fear that the media would label you (gulp) “a birther?” Do you actually think pandering to the Left will keep them from rolling you over the coals any chance they get?
By the way, when DID someone – anyone- rip apart the charges that Obama’s birth certificate is a fake? When DID that happen Mr. Beck? When did anyone make a point by point presentation supporting the authenticity of that obviously fake document?
Who explained away the numerous problems in the document while we weren’t looking? That video must have escaped our view.
Furthermore when did anyone stop laughing at the “silly birthers” long enough to refute the “obviously false assertion” that the Post Office only used four digit year stamps in 1980 when it stamped Obama’s Selective Service card?....
(Excerpt) Read more at coachisright.com ...
I find it odd if he was actually serious about solving a real crime.
Odd? You find everything about the birthers odd. Your posting history since you joined on 1/28/12 reads like a one trick pony.
Why would the use of retired LEOs, with hundreds of years of cumulative experience be odd? Why would the pursuit of the truth with unpaid volunteers, thus saving the taxpayers of Maricopa Counth expense, be odd? Sheriff Joe's entire term of service is replete with examples of saving taxpayers money.
If the truth of Obama 's fraud is staring you in the face, will you find fault with those who bring the facts to you, or will you find fault with the conclusions?
His two main investigators had a financial incentive to come to a certain result - Zullo and Corsi have an e-book on sale about the “investigation”.
Is that a hallmark of a professional police investigation to you. How is it possible to call this an impartial investigation?
Is that a hallmark of a professional police investigation to you. How is it possible to call this an impartial investigation?
First let us look at the facts. Are you saying the facts are in question that were revealed?
Then let's look at Zullo and Corsi. How much of the ten dollars per copy is profit to them? Do you know?
Do you know if the ten dollars per copy is even enough to pay for the copying and assembly? Have copies of other investigations been released for ten dollars?
Or for more?
Do you know what their motivations are for sure, or is that conjecture on your part?
Then, once you have successfully cast aspersions on the two of them for their alleged financial bonanza by selling these copies, will you then attack Corsi for being a loon?
Your tactics are actually illustrative of the Left. When you can't argue facts, argue the personalities involved.
So let me play. What do you think of a Freeper who posts hundreds of posts at all hours of the day and night on the threads where the legal aspects of whether Obama is a natural born citizen is the only topic? What would that motive be? Is there some kind of profit involved there? Perhaps a paid disruptor? After all, you have a very recent sign in date. And you post on basically one subject--the subject you seem to have an over-riding interest in--President Obama.
Not much interest from you on all the other topics of the day.
See, it is not so hard to cast aspersions on people and motives. Lawyers do it all the time to create doubt.
The key is not to look at personalities, but the facts of the case. What say you about the facts?
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Its an e-book - no copying or assembly required.
Does it really matter what his cut is?
I would assume any author shares profit with publisher and distributor.
Do you have any evidence that the profits from the book are being applied elsewhere?
I'm not the one questioning the motives of the those selling the copies of the investigation.
I would say the facts are the result of a tainted investigation.
Look - if real LEOs were to pull such a stunt they would be fired and possibly prosecuted.
If we are a nation of.laws then justice has to be impartial. A financial incentive to come.to.a certain result is not impartial.
No prosecutor or judge in the country would accept such behavior. The entire investigation would be tainted and thrown out.
Oh, I see.
You will not separate the facts from those involved with the facts.
By the way, let's let a real judge and jury decide when this reaches a real court, which it has not yet.
Until then, it is pointless specualtion on your part about what may or may not be true about the participants.
So, now, what do you think about the facts, on their own, because I do not share your assertion that they are in any way tainted.
You can't get MORE REAL than Sherif Joe Arpaio.
Folks, check this Harlan's posting history.
So if I went to your hometown chief of police and accused you of a crime, would you expect him to say:
“Harlan, I have nothing I can use charge him with. How about I deputize you so you can do an unofficial investigation. Ask your friends to help - I promise I will use the results to start legal proceedings.”
That is what you are supporting. The birthers went to Sherif Joe Arpaio first. He told them to join the posse.
So you have a small self selected politically motivated group with an agenda. One has written a birther book in the past. Two of them are presently pimping another birther book.
And that is how the police operate in your town? Don’t think so.
I understand that nothing that investigation presented would ever be allowed in court.
If it is not legally admissible as evidence, then legally it is nothing more than unsubstantiated hearsay.
I will pay attention the day Sheriff Joe says “I have ordered an official criminal investigation.” That is the kind of investigation that discovers the truth - impartial investigators with the power to compel testimony and evidence.
I think the facts are simply Corsi’s birther nonsense recycled once again.
Really? Is it not possible to determine a forgery by means not requiring examining the original? You apparently are blowing smoke again. Ask Dan Rather about forged documents being exposed from an internet copy. Sighted Obot Sank Same.
I understand that nothing that investigation presented would ever be allowed in court.
Wrong
If it is not legally admissible as evidence, then legally it is nothing more than unsubstantiated hearsay.
Wrong
you have no concept of how investigations work, reasonable suspicion, probable cause, evidence, discovery, admissible evidence etc....
who pays expert witnesses and private investigators that testify in court? Who pays DA’s and DA investigators?
Sheesh.....
So Dan Rather was convicted in court? A real court accepted those “facts” into official evidence? I don’t even remember Dan Rather being charged with a crime.
I thought you wanted to get Obama into court. Don’t you think you need to have evidence that would actually be accepted as probative evidence?
you made a false statement I corrected you. as for document examiners examining the “doc” for the Cold Case Posse, see 34 minutes to 35 minutes into video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPabF7yd7kk&feature=youtu.be
WHY won’t Obama allow anyone to see his original BC? Answer that if the copy is the same why not the original?
And their evidence and testimony is routinely kicked out if it can be proved that there was a conflict of interest.
DAs, Asst DAs, judges and police officers often recluse themselves for conflict of interest.
That’s why this was not a real investigation. Nowhere in the real world would I be allow to accuse you of a crime, be allowed as a private citizen to investigate you, and have my “investigation” count for anything. That is what you are supporting.
Remember that the birthers went to Sheriff Joe first after which he suggested they join his posse. So after accusing Obama, a group of private citizens get to investigate Obama?
Is that what the cops in your home town do?
So why doesn’t Sheriff Joe compel Obama to show his BC? All he has to do is start an official investigation. Why hasn’t he?
Isn’t this the big break you have been waiting for? A subpena from Sheriff Joe to Hawaii bypasses Obama - there is nothing he could do to stop it.
You have all kinds of imaginary excuses for your butt buddy getting caught. Why don’t you demand he open up all his records so the Nation can see everything and prove the posse wrong? ROFLMAO...
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