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What a can of worms. We have become used to heating and air conditioning and driving any kind of terrain in internal combustion engine vehicles, not so now with electric vehicles.
1 posted on 01/03/2012 11:21:58 AM PST by jazusamo
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Great article from last year.

Nissan Leaf a comfortable, fun car to drive (For 50 Miles - Then it Dies!)

Monday, February 14, 2011 10:28:45 AM · by Responsibility2nd · 126 replies
San Antonio Express News ^ | 02/13/2011 | G. Chambers Williams III
 
 
Williams is a toadie and cannot say anything negative about a car, otherwise automakers will not allow him to test their vehicles. But his experience is driving this fail-bucket is hilarious.
 
 

 


2 posted on 01/03/2012 11:26:14 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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Word to the wise, don’t buy government subsidized products. It will not live up to industry standards simply because they were spending the money of someone else to build it. You will get the minimum in both technology and workmanship.


3 posted on 01/03/2012 11:30:01 AM PST by formosa (Formosa)
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It was about 35 degrees in the Volunteer State when Smith departed Knoxville on Monday

Available charge in batteries is drastically affected by cold (or hot) temperatures.

4 posted on 01/03/2012 11:30:03 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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I think at the current technology, folks are trying to apply electric vehicles in ways they are not designed.


5 posted on 01/03/2012 11:31:32 AM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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The problem comes from people like this Smith guy( the tenn writer) who think the Gov’t ( us ) SHOULD sibsidize these failures instead of letting the marketplace work.
let private compnaies work the bugs/ clinks out and then offer these vehicles.
but WE should NOT sibsidize the making of these pos and the buying of these POS and the buildong of charging stations.
It is not worth it now.


6 posted on 01/03/2012 11:32:38 AM PST by RWGinger (Simpl)
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Stephen Smith, executive director of the Southern Alliance for Clean Energy

The cars will go away first. The made up "green jobs" that accompanied them like Mr. Smith's will follow shortly thereafter.

8 posted on 01/03/2012 11:36:23 AM PST by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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They must have had a headwind. I’ve heard those electric cars are great.

/s


9 posted on 01/03/2012 11:37:51 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<0> - - -)
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I rode in a Leaf and the owner likes it quite a bit but he spends every trip longer than 30 miles worrying if he can make it home.


11 posted on 01/03/2012 11:39:01 AM PST by Zathras
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Filled up my wife’s car the other day, and just out of curiosity, flipped around the computer gage - “540 miles to empty.”

Only, I have noted that that guage lies - you have 12 gallons of fuel left at “empty.”


12 posted on 01/03/2012 11:40:03 AM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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I dont’ know why this was a shock to these people. Anyone who’s ever played around with battery operated toys(or cell phones for that matter) knows all claims about batteries are lies. And on top of the lies regarding how long the batteries last, every little thing you do differently will alter the battery life. Put more than one person it the car...battery gets sucked down faster. drive up hills...battery sucks down faster. run air conditioner or heater...battery sucks down faster. Headwind...battery sucks down faster.

Also, time to charge up a battery is a lie. It always takes longer than what they claim.

That said, I know they can make electric cars better than the LEAF...but at what price, is the question. It would be nice if 440/480 volt 3 phase service was readily available but it isn’t . That’s just the way it is right now. Maybe someday 480 volt service will be standard in every neighborhood, every garage, and every commercial building. But at the moment, 480 volts is extremely rare. you are lucky to have 240 volt service. Lots of locations don’t even have that.


14 posted on 01/03/2012 11:43:35 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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If the specs promised by Nissan and Leaf advocates were to be believed ...

16 posted on 01/03/2012 11:44:31 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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“It’s good knowing we didn’t use a drop of oil getting down here,” he said.

Isn't that nice.

By the way, how much coal did you use?

17 posted on 01/03/2012 11:46:19 AM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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“It’s good knowing we didn’t use a drop of oil getting down here,” he said.

In case anyone was wondering whether he is as stupid as we all think he is.

18 posted on 01/03/2012 11:47:28 AM PST by IamConservative ("The ability to speak eloquently is not to be confused with having something to say." - MP Hart)
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Damn thing sounds like an oversize golf cart.

Imagine a nice humid summer day when you have to run the A/C constantly.

19 posted on 01/03/2012 11:51:39 AM PST by doorgunner69
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They should have used their brains and either installed a rooftop mounted generator or one in a small trailer, turn the car into a diesel/electric. Generator charges while it drives.


21 posted on 01/03/2012 11:52:07 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Castigo Cay by Matt Bracken, check it out. And his other works.)
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Aw come on, a little convenience to too much to sacrifice in order to “save the earth?”

LOL!


23 posted on 01/03/2012 11:53:38 AM PST by Grunthor (Do you worship the State or do you worship the Lord? There is no middle ground.)
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180 miles, six hours.

W
O
W

Shoulda brought the soap box derby car along as a back up.


24 posted on 01/03/2012 11:56:13 AM PST by Adder (Say NO to the O in 2 oh 12)
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Doing some quick energy calcs, they used a total of 101 KWh for the trip assuming a full 24 KWh charge at the start and 80% charges en route. Gasoline has a combustion energy of about 33.4 KWh per gallon. This results in an equivalent of 59 MPG for this trip. Anybody know how much energy it takes to turn X tons of coal into 1 KWh stored in a battery? Bet it’s a good bit more than it takes to turn oil into gasoline at the pump.

Thinking back, I had a ‘89 Jetta diesel back in the 90’s that I bought for less than 3 grand. It got 50 MPG with my foot on the floor all the time. I could drive it 750 miles without refilling.


25 posted on 01/03/2012 11:56:40 AM PST by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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Now if only there was a way to charge the batteries while driving. Hmmm.


26 posted on 01/03/2012 11:56:40 AM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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The Chevy Volt does much better as you never have to turn on the heater, you just keep replacing the burned-up back seats.


40 posted on 01/03/2012 12:20:30 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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