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Posted on 11/28/2011 2:08:59 PM PST by Bokababe
The US government has been slowly eradicating the Posse Commitatus Act of 1878. That act banned the US government from using the US military in domestic law enforcement. Over the past few decades the US government has repeatedly violated the act. However, many Republicans have insisted that the Posse Comitatus Act needs to be respected to protect the rights of American Citizens.
South Carolina's left-wing Republican Senator Lindsey Graham, however, is supporting provisions to eradicate Posse Commitatus and dramatically expand the powers of the Federal government.
The US Senate Armed Forces Committee, led by Carl Levin (D-MI) and John McCain (R-AZ), held a secret closed door session to insert ominous new Federal powers into the Defense Authorization Bill. This is the annual bill to fund the US military. These new powers were requested by the Obama administration.
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This should be an impeachable offense, right here, right now.
You forgot FUBS (B Soetoro)
Its not news that Miss Lindsay is Juan McStain’s sock puppet. He toadies around waiting for orders from his BFF.
Brazen! I duked it out with another Freeper last week over a drone strike that killed a 16 yo son of a US citizen in Yemen. Kid was standing in close proximity to a bunch of Islamist terrorist. My fellow Freeper thought that because the kid was a US citizen that Obama essentially ordered the murder of a US citizen without due process. I'll have to seek him/her out to apologize.
Another step closer to a police state. Little by little, Obama is edging us closer. McCain and Graham are mere dupes.
This has nothing to do with US citizens inside the US. It is for alleged citizens on a BATTLEFIELD. It is in response to the traitor who was blown up by a drone recently. You remember don’t you? There were many FReepers who insisted that the nationality of every combatant encountered on the battlefield be determined and that they then be accorded all legal rights. Like most bad ideas, this one is a over reaction to a perceived wrong. While it is a crappy idea and needs to fail, it is NOT what you are making it out to be.
>Where is the clear language that U.S. citizens are exempt from being policed by the U.S. Military?
Such language would be contrary to the Constitution (Art I, Sec 8):
“To provide for calling forth the Militia to **execute the Laws of the Union**, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;”
>There’s no reason to shed Posse Commitatus Act of 1878 unless you want a dictatorship
I disagree; the reason for the Posse Commitatus Act is to give a false sense of security. After all, the Constitution SPECIFICALLY enumerates this power:
(in Art I, Sec 8) — “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;”
The real problem is that the law will not be executed UNIFORMLY; can you even *imagine* [say] the Supreme Court being arrested for violating the 18 USC 241/424 for declaring ObamaCare Constitutional? Or the BATF, DEA, and FBI for its involvement in Fast & Furious (unauthorized acts of war, state-supported terrorism)?
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/718/usc_sec_18_00000241——000-.html
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/718/usc_sec_18_00000242——000-.html
I'm making it out to be?
According to the American Civil Liberties Union, the National Defense Authorization Act will allow the U.S. military to declare national territory part of the "battlefield" in the “War on Terror.”
memorable lines from the movie, A Man for All Seasons:
William Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!
Sir Thomas More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?
William Roper: Yes, I’d cut down every law in England to do that!
Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned ‘round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man’s laws, not God’s! And if you cut them down, and you’re just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I’d give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety’s sake!
He is owned by the world elite. He go far beyond just a RINO.
I don't think it's that simple. When the Consitution was written, there was no "standing army". The founders were against standing armies in times of peace. A permanent professional military is NOT the militia. It is a different creature. That is what the Possse Commitatus Act applied to IMHO.
>>I disagree; the reason for the Posse Commitatus Act is to give a false sense of security. After all, the Constitution SPECIFICALLY enumerates this power: (in Art I, Sec 8) — “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;”
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>I don’t think it’s that simple. When the Consitution was written, there was no “standing army”. The founders were against standing armies in times of peace. A permanent professional military is NOT the militia. It is a different creature. That is what the Possse Commitatus Act applied to IMHO.
You bring up some good points. Though, I think the multitudinous “LEOs” we have are closer to the ‘standing army’ our founders feared than our regular Army — the two-year limit on funds for the Army is still in effect, though I agree that it is only lip-service to the intent.
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