Indeed!
We are tearing our coutry apart quite well from within, no help needed from outsiders!
You want MORE of us??
Just keep on SUBSIDIZING us!
Posted on 11/17/2011 11:39:34 PM PST by expat1000
“I believe the government should legalize polygamy because it is lawful in Islam. It would enable all the wives to have the same legal status." -- Muslima in an Islamic polygamous marriage
…nearly 70 percent said they believe that the U.S. should legalize polygamy…42 percent of those surveyed said they were either in, or knew others in polygamous marriages within the local Muslim community. Thirty nine percent said they would engage in a polygamous marriage if it were legal in the United States.
Islamic supremacism on the march in America. Just as the Muslim Brotherhood groups in the US, like Hamas-linked CAIR, exploited the the black experience in America to impose Islam on the secular marketplace by playing the civil rights card. They are now using the "gay marriage" narrative to legalize multiple wives under the sharia. Read it all.
I have written on Muslim polygamy in the US here. And here: 100,000 US Muslims engage in polygamy.
What's next? Child brides? That is sanctioned under the sharia. That's an "alternative lifestyle" sanctioned by Islam and "religious freedom under the Constitution." Honor killings? Clitorectomies? All sanctioned under the sharia, and as Ground Zero mosque Imam Rauf reminded us in his book, you cannot cherry-pick the sharia. It's all or .........
In his own book from 2000, "Islam: A Sacred Law," he wrote this on p. 58: "And since a Shari'ah is understood as a law with God at its center, it is not possible in principle to limit the Shari'ah to some aspects of human life and leave out others."
Survey: 70% of Muslims say U.S. should legalize polygamy MuslimLink.com via creeping As Legal Marriage Is Redefined, Some Muslim Call for Decriminalizing Polygamy
The legalization of gay marriage in six states and the continued efforts toward legalizing it in the rest of the country has opened the flood gates that have, for hundreds of years defined legal marriage in the United States as the union between one man and one woman.
As more proponents of gay marriage push bills through Congress and rally votes that support marriage as a constitutional right for all citizens regardless of sexual orientation another group that remains decidedly outside the legal confines of marriage is slowly entering the limelight.
Over 130 years ago a decision was made that criminalized the practice of polygamy in the United States.
Despite the redefinition of legal marriage to include homosexual couples, the country still grapples at the idea of polygamy, a commonly misunderstood primarily religiously based practice.
With an estimated 50,000 to 100,000 people living in polygamous situations in the U.S. today, few have seen their actions reprimanded in court. This is likely because many live in secrecy out of fear that exposure of their practices will result in loss of jobs, break apart their families, or land them in jail. However, even in cases where polygamy is known, few states move to actually prosecute the individuals involved.
While some choose to quietly live their lives as they please, married legally only to one woman but to others only through religious ceremonies, there are murmurs among the polygamist community as the country moves toward the legalization of gay marriage.
Just as the gay community has fought for equal treatment under the law, polygamists argue the same. As citizens of the United States, they argue, they should have the right to legally marry whoever they please, or however many they please.
In the same regard that the gay community faced stark opposition from religious organizations that diligently fought, and continue to fight the idea of gay marriage on religious grounds, polygamists communities face similar religious stigmas.
While the U.S. Constitution boasts a separation of church and state, which ultimately helped the gay community overcome the opposition, it also guarantees the free exercise of religion which has somewhat ironically been the biggest obstacle for the polygamist community.
Because polygamy is considered a derivative of certain religious beliefs it would logically seem as though the practice of polygamy would then be protected under constitutional law. However, this is not the case, and has not been since Reynolds vs. United States in 1978 in which the court refused to recognize polygamy as a legitimate religious practice. Instead, it was deemed it as “almost exclusively a feature of the life of Asiatic and African people.” Later decisions showed no progress in accepting polygamy as a legitimate religious practice despite its longstanding historic presence in Christianity, Judaism and Islam. Instead the court declared it to be “contrary to the spirit of Christianity and of the civilization which Christianity has produced in the Western World,” equating it to a type of barbarism.
Many argue that polygamy is an exception to the free exercise of religion because known cases of polygamous marriages of young girls. This cast a shadow on the practice and many ignorantly equated it with pedophilia. Recent attacks on the Prophet Muhammad also equated his marriage to Aisha, who was nine at the time, as an act of pedophilia. In cases where religious practices are deemed harmful to individuals or to the public, the free exercise of religion no longer applies.
While Islam itself does not condone acts of homosexuality and though the mainstream Muslim community remains largely uninvolved with polygamy in the United States, there are a minority who still engage in the practice though largely in secrecy for fear of retribution. While some masajids require legal proof of marriage prior to granting an Islamic marriage, some Imams’ like Baltimore city’s Hassan Amin believe polygamy to be a god-given right that cannot be denied to those who are willing and able despite the potential legal ramifications.
“I don’t have any problem with that because it’s Deen. I’m doing it for religion,” said Amin who admits to performing polygamous marriages.
Nana: Tens of thousands of Mormons living in Utah still practice polygamy today...
Rip: “Tens of thousands of Mormons Ex-Mormons, and members of splinter groups living in Utah still practice polygamy today...”
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There, fixed it for you, as you intentionally left something out.
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No I didnt...
The REAL Mormons obey their founder Joey Smith...
That mainstream splinter group in SLC pretend what Joey Smith told them to do doesnt exist...
That SLC group just sit around and dream of the day when polygamy will be back...
Well HEY !!!
It looks like its on the horizen
They can break out the booze they horde for “guest”
Indeed!
We are tearing our coutry apart quite well from within, no help needed from outsiders!
You want MORE of us??
Just keep on SUBSIDIZING us!
Nana: “THe LORD God of the Christian Bible condemns polygamy along with homosexual activites equally...”
Mr R: I’m unaware of where the Bible vigorously condemns polygamy as strongly as it does homosexuality.
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Polygamy is mentioned in the Ten Commandments while homosexuality is not...
However there are passages that equates both as condemned by the LORD God of the Christian Bible..
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 1 Corinthians 6:9
We also know that law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious; for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for adulterers and perverts, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine 1 Timothy 1:9, 10
Maybe I’m missing where those verses discuss polygamy. I also missed it in the 10 commandments.
Was David evil for polygamy? Where does God condemn him for it?
That it isn’t the best is shown in the requirements for an elder, but I don’t recall seeing it explicitly and severely condemned like homosexuality.
and yet you seem to have no trouble implying that the Bible mentions same-sex marriage...
Polygamy is adultery..
Polygamy is evil and sexually deviant...
and God equates it with homosexuality...
In America there have always been laws against both sins..
If you dont like those scriptures against adultery take it up with God...
arguing with me wont change God’s Word to suit you...
“Polygamy is adultery..
Polygamy is evil and sexually deviant...
and God equates it with homosexuality...”
No. And you cannot show where it does.
It is un-American, and on that basis alone it could be rejected. But homosexuality is treated far more vehemently than polygamy. David and Israel are never condemned for having multiple wives.
I NEVER forget about abortion. I only pray that there is a special circle of Hell for child molesters - living and not yet born.
That said, my reference was to the free practice of religion - not doctrine.
Ah, but they will argue that they were imprisoned and the long fight is on. Anyway, as usual, it’s BOHICA for all of us.
Was David evil for polygamy?
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I dont know...was he ???
According to you polygamy is not mentioned in the Bible...
ya cant have it both ways kid...
Wheres the Bible scripture that says David committed the sin of polygamy ???
BTW I notice you havent quoted ANY scriture yet about same-sex marriage either...
“LEGALIZED POLYGAMY”
Legal, maybe, but it’s the wife I am worried about!
It is un-American, and on that basis alone it could be rejected.
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It already has been...
The new Republican Party had a platform against “The Twin Evils: Polygamy and Slavery”
In the 1850s they thought polygamy was unAmerican too...
But more so and more importantly they thought polygamy was unGodly...
This is one of the reasons I will never vote for anyone who openly welcomes Muslims into this country and cozies up to them. Helping break ground for a Mosque in Texas and helping to get Muslim teaching in Texas schools totally eliminates any support from me.
Either, both.
“BTW I notice you havent quoted ANY scriture yet about same-sex marriage either...”
Well, if HOMOSEXUALITY is evil, then OBVIOUSLY same sex marriage is evil.
“According to you polygamy is not mentioned in the Bible...”
Please do not be dishonest. Polygamy is OFTEN mentioned in the Bible, but the closest thing to condemnation is that an elder should be the husband of ONE wife.
Since there are multiple and severe denunciations of homosexuality, and since polygamy is NOT condemned, I conclude your statement:
“THe LORD God of the Christian Bible condemns polygamy along with homosexual activites equally...”
is false.
Well, if HOMOSEXUALITY is evil, then OBVIOUSLY same sex marriage is evil.
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Thats what Ive been saying all along...
“Well, if ADULTERY is evil, then OBVIOUSLY POLYGAMY is evil.”
especially since polygamy is just another term for adultery...
Ok...
GOD only took ONE rib; NOT a half rack!
A help mate; not MATES.
A WIFE; not WIVES.
Mark 10:8 ...and the two will become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two, but one. NOT 3,4,5 or 20!
Also Matthew 19:5
Seems to me kind of a non-starter to cement an alliance with a marriage of people who can’t or don’t have a relationship. Were there no women in France? (where Isabella was from)
Not disputing the propaganda, but they would hardly have said otherwise. Within the next couple years, they tried to force her into other political marriages, which she refused out of loyalty to the deceased Richard and she was sent back to France.
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