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New Kennedy Assassination Tapes Revealed
abcnews.go.com ^ | 15 Nov 2011 | Jack Cloherty

Posted on 11/15/2011 7:31:53 PM PST by smokingfrog

Nearly 48 years after the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, fresh audio evidence from that fateful day has surfaced. The evidence comes in the form of the original reel-to-reel Air Force One radio recording, containing conversations between officials on the plane, the White House situation room, and others. The original tape was long thought to be lost or destroyed.

The tape contains never-before-heard conversations between the presidential aircraft and the White House and immediately after the assassination of President Kennedy on Nov. 22, 1963.

It was held privately for years by President Kennedy’s military aide at the time, Chester Clifton. Clifton was in the Dallas motorcade when Kennedy was shot and killed, and on Air Force One and involved in the radio discussions. The tape was obtained by the Raab Collection of Philadelphia.

According to Nathan Raab, the Vice President of the collection, the tape is the raw, unedited version of the edited audio tape from Air Force One that is in the National Archive. The Raab Collection says the raw tape “is about 30 minutes longer than the edited version, predates it by years, and contains incidents and code names never before heard by the American public.”

“That this tape even exists will change the way we view this great event in history,” said Raab. “It took decades to analyze the shorter, newer version and it will take years to do the same here. This provides a concise ‘tale of the tapes’ and offers great insight into ongoing research.”

The tape contains a dramatic first-hand report of the President’s assassination, and the wounding of then-Texas Governor John Connolly. ..

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Government; History; Reference
KEYWORDS: 19631122; airforceone; chesterclifton; clifton; conspiracy; dallas; godsgravesglyphs; jfk; jfkassasination; johnconnolly; johnfkennedy; kennedyassassination; texas
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To: coincheck

Wrong. All entrance wounds are located in the back side of JFK’s body. Exit wounds are in front. All forensic evidence shows this to be the case.

The blood spray, as you state, comes from the front of JFK’s head. This of course is evidence of a rear entry since the explosive force of impact flows out though the exit, not back toward the entrance.

Furthermore, the oblong wound in Connally’s back is proof the bullet was tumbling, after hitting JFK, thus validating the single bullet theory.


41 posted on 11/15/2011 9:30:42 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Oh yeah... that was the “magic bullet”.


42 posted on 11/15/2011 9:32:14 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Signalman

I have read many books over the years about the different theories, and in the past few years have watched several documentaries about it and some were pretty interesting but none convinced me there was a conspiracy.

My dad was absolutely convinced that LBJ was behind it, not sure why he thought that, dad was a died in the wool democrat but never trusted LBJ.


43 posted on 11/15/2011 9:33:03 PM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Lancey Howard

What I mean is, it forced the Presidents head forward so far and fast his chin bounced off his chest. I would not expect that kind of head motion merely by virtue of entry and exit. His head makes a forward motion before it makes a rearward motion. That’s all.


44 posted on 11/15/2011 9:37:01 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (minds change)
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To: coincheck
The Zapruder film was not running fast enough to catch the moment of impact by projectile causing massive tissue loss. The gist of the film points toward shot from the rear. Flash of exploding tissue mass moves toward front of vehicle, not rear. It is easy to see how one would interpret the shot as coming from the front, however. I don't care to get into a pissing match with folks who believe otherwise. All my reading of conspiracy theories has left me largely unconvinced.
45 posted on 11/15/2011 9:45:14 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (minds change)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

How do you feel about the Torbitt document?


46 posted on 11/15/2011 9:50:00 PM PST by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: nolongerademocrat

The same way I feel about all conspiracy ghouls. They should be on Art Bell’s show, not FreeRepublic!


47 posted on 11/15/2011 10:13:02 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Interesting.


48 posted on 11/15/2011 10:23:25 PM PST by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: smokingfrog

The bits and pieces I heard of these tapes told me nothing.


49 posted on 11/15/2011 10:38:51 PM PST by berdie
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To: smokingfrog

I’m from Dallas and grew up around all this. A few years ago, our Skeptics group sponsored a talk by the doctor from Parkland who was actually on duty and worked on JFK when he was rushed into the ER. He brought along his own photos from that time, told us everything that happened minute by minute, and answered all questions to try to clear up exactly what occurred from the expert perspective of a highly qualified surgeon who was actually standing there working on JFK.

After the talk, I went to the men’s room. There were two guys in there at the urinals I’d never seen at any Skeptics meeting before. They were both scoffing about how that doctor was either a fool or a tool, because he didn’t know what he was talking about.

Yes, how could he possibly know more about it than they did? It’s not like he was actually there. Oh, wait: HE WAS!!!

Again proving, nothing dents the beliefs of a conspiracy nut. Exculpatory evidence is merely absorbed into the narrative and becomes a new branch of the conspiracy.


50 posted on 11/15/2011 10:50:40 PM PST by HHFi
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To: Lancey Howard
LOL! Yeah, and Oswald still shot him from behind.

Anyone looking at that video who claims the shot came fom behind is a damned insulting liar, and not worth the respect of a reply.

51 posted on 11/15/2011 10:53:33 PM PST by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: doc1019

Let’s just look at LHO’s actions immediately after the assassination. Leaves the TSB immediately. Leaves Dealy Plaza to catch a bus that would’ve stopped outside the TSB had he waited. When bus doesn’t move, gets off of bus. Gets in taxi. Then has taxi drive him past his boarding house. Changes clothes in boarding house, grabs a handgun. Sneaks into movie theater. Pulls the gun when the cops try to arrest him. Do these uncontested facts sound like the actions of an innocent man?


52 posted on 11/15/2011 11:26:29 PM PST by Lou Budvis (Esperanza y Cambio!)
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To: Talisker
Anyone looking at that video who claims the shot came fom behind is a damned insulting liar, and not worth the respect of a reply.

Yep.

The "explanation" always involves theoretical physics, or simply "his chin bounced off his chest", or whatever. Kennedy's entire upper body - - not just his head - - is propelled backward by the force of the shot.

...which obviously came from the front.

53 posted on 11/15/2011 11:29:30 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lou Budvis
Do these uncontested facts sound like the actions of an innocent man?

Nope. Oswald was clearly a big part of the conspiracy.

54 posted on 11/15/2011 11:31:21 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Yehuda

Now this thread is complete.


56 posted on 11/16/2011 12:02:35 AM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Just remember, for every believer of conspiracy theories who are members of the lunatic fringe seeking to protect society from such CTs, there is a believer of the CT, also lunatic fringe, but has the power to implement the CT and simply keeps their agendas secret amongst a cabal of their peers.

Do conspiracies exist?

Which is more absurd,...they are feasible but never exist and the only people who study them are those who oppose them? OR they are feasible and some lunatic fringe groups actually continue their agendas?

If they don’t exist, consider things like “Agenda 21”.


57 posted on 11/16/2011 12:08:59 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: doc1019
And I believe Oswald’s statement that he was just a “patsy”.

Doubtless, that was what he believed. Fidel's patsy. Fair play for Cuber, don't you know?

Of course, we've no idea whether Fidel had ever heard of the dude, much less directed him. LOL!

58 posted on 11/16/2011 12:14:55 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

Oh crap the conspiracy nut-jobs are out again....


59 posted on 11/16/2011 12:42:12 AM PST by gman992 ("I'm a conservative. I'm just a happy conservative.")
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To: gman992

Read—”A physicist examines the Kennedy assassination film”

American Journal of Physics — September 1976 — Volume 44, Issue 9, pp. 813


60 posted on 11/16/2011 12:46:51 AM PST by gman992 ("I'm a conservative. I'm just a happy conservative.")
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