The “Texas DREAM Act” is the law in our state and was passed with veto-proof numbers by the Texas Legislature over 10 years ago, in 2001. HB 1403 passed in the Senate with 29 “yeas,”no "Nays." It received 130 votes in favor in the House. The text of the Bill is, here. (Word doc.)
The Texas Legislature has never repealed the DREAM Act, although it was revised and made stricter in 2005 with SB 1528. That Bill also appeared veto-proof, with 31 votes in the Senate, and a non-recorded vote in the House. This year, the sole attempt by Senator Birdwell to increase tuition for undocumented students failed to make it out of the 82nd Legislature’s Senate, even when he tried to tie an amendment onto the larger Education Bill.
Yes, all it does is allow them to PAY to use our college and university system since the feds are going to allow them to be here. And because they’ve lived here all their lives. It is not a free pass by any means.
Que the Perry bashers in 3, 2...
I don’t recall asking for your opinion.
Gov. Perry and The TEXAS Dream Act
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It’s important to point out that there is a huge difference in the TEXAS Dream Act and the The Dream Act that was pushed in Congress and failed. The Dream Act in Congress was full of all kinds of goodies other than allowing children of illegals to receive in state tuition. The Texas Dream Act was focused only on that. I happen to agree with The Texas Dream Act, and so did everyone in the Senate in Texas. It passed with ZERO “no” votes. Add to that, it has been proven to be successful.
These are a few things you need to know about the [2001] Texas Dream Act. The child has to have lived in Texas the three years leading up to high school graduation. These students are given no special treatment in getting into Texas colleges and universities. They must get in on their own merit. They are paying the tuition (with or without financial aid). It’s estimated that these students make up about 1% of those entering college.
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Most of us agree that border control MUST be dealt with first. The problem with all other efforts on this issue in the past is that the borders were not sealed. If there is anyone who we can trust to do that it is Gov. Perry (if he decides to run for President). He knows what goes on down at the border. He has gone there many times. He knows what needs to be done. There is no doubt in my mind that if he were President, he would seal our borders. But Perry also understands Hispanic outreach.
do we make them men and women without a country?
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Nobody made them “men and women without a country”
They still have a country...
They just need to go back to their own country...
We dont owe them an education
As a REAL immigrant who managed to get a college education without an DREAM Act
I dont know why you wrote this ...
My children worked their way through college without any DREAM Act
Why do you think they should help the anchor children of illegal aliens ???
BTW this Saturday I will have been LEGALLY in this country 40 years...
I arrived here on August 13, 1971
AFTER completing ALL the necessary paperwork, medical tests and background checks
and swearing that I would not apply for welfare, food stamps free medical, anything...
If in 40 years I managed without your bleeding heart DREAM Act, whats wrong with your illegal aliens ???
How is the Dream Act not in violation of the IIRIRA?
I am in general opposition to the DREAM act (the federal one) and on the same terms as those you outlined: that giving benefits to lawbreakers (don't call them "undocumented" they all have fraudulent papers) AND/OR to their children, powerfully incentivizes more lawbreaking.
These lawbreakers are being treated justly, and even mercifully, if the same laws are applied to them as to eveyrbody else: yes, there's a path to U.S. citizenship and that path begins in Mexico (or wherever the country of origin may be.) Go back and start at Square One like everybody else.
But if the Feds will not deport them, and actively prevent the States from deporting them, then what can be done about the children who were brought here as minors, and who therefore did not (personally) make any wilful choice to break the law?
Your argument for applying the Texas DREAMact, which covers residency and residency alone (they still have to pay their own tuition) is well made.
I await other FReepers' response. You have stated your side of it ably.
DREAM Act PING
OK, I actually clicked your blog.
Black type on a dark, DARK red background?
Really? Seriously?
You don’t expect anyone to take the time to read that, huh?
What we see here is proof that many Perry supporters, like you, actually support his liberal policies.
Rather than defend his actions by stating they were a mistake or some such, you reveal yourselves to be in full support of his liberal positions.
It explains a lot and allows us conservatives to safely ignore your opinions on any subject.
They all have countries and are citizens of their country of birth. In fact, Mexico allows dual citizenship and with its 60 consulates in the US, encourages them to vote in Mexican elections.
I fully support providing in-state tuition and legal residency status to young immigrants who came here illegally but through no choice of their own... AFTER MEETING THE CONDITION that they accurately identify their parents and all other adult illegal aliens known to them, and that those criminal invaders are actually deported. In fact, I’d be willing to give free-ride college grants to those who provide information leading to the deportation of some minimum threshold number of illegals.
Of course, the same incentives would be extended to legal residents and citizens.
Ping!
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All this does is provide a screen for more illegals to get jobs ILLEGALLY.
We don't need them. We don't need their bills for medical, education, food, work, insurance or any of it. We simply do not need them. You can personally okay it in Texas and you can sponsor one of them yourself. In effect, you acceptance of this is forcing other Americans to sponsor your penchants. You are not "right" of anything.
Actually, Tyler Texas is where the disaster really got started.
You voted in the 1970s to exclude illegal aliens from your school on the very good theory that illegal aliens - whatever their age - have no claim on taxpayer services...like public schools.
The Supreme Court threw that law out in 1982, in a decision called Plyler v. Doe. Because of Plyler, entire states are now going bankrupt, the schools in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas are predominantly Mexican (the LAUSD is 85% "hispanic", after being 85% Not Hispanic for the previous 100 years), and in my hometown of Tucson, the little darlings are engaging in terror tactics to try to force us to pay to teach them about their Stolen Land and the non-existent Aztec history of the Southwest.
So where do you then get off talking about "we voted on it, it's a law"? Your own laws were gutted by a Supreme Court decision that is simply wrong, and Un-Constitutional.
Your argument is that the will of the people only goes one direction - OK if it benefits the citizens of Mexico, not OK if it discriminates against them as non-citizens?
Standard rap of the Left since the 1890s.
In fact, your laws now discriminate against Citizens of the United States in favor of illegal aliens, which is utterly un-Constitutional and an affront to Americans. The strained reasoning that you employ to attempt to rationalize it is just that.