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To: hocndoc

How is the Dream Act not in violation of the IIRIRA?


13 posted on 08/11/2011 7:05:31 AM PDT by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: mewzilla
CW: We've been dealt a hand here in Texas (and if you've read my threads you know much of this) where we have a federal government that has not answered the call to protect the 1250 border miles Texas shares with Mexico. Gov. Perry does not believe a fence is the answer to illegals crossing the U.S.-Mexican border. He believes conservative ascendancy will. So we do the best with what we have ($100M/yr of our own state money put up to help secure an international border). We have a lot of crime to combat and pay for because of the illegal activity (drugs, human smuggling and trafficking) generated by an unsecured international border.

We can't refuse to educate or give health care, as everyone in every state is faced with the same situation, but since Perry is a border gov, he's held responsible for illegal aliens, where everyone vents their frustration about the problem using him as a whipping boy (and to make political points and take pot shots). Perry's asked for drones (went to Israel and asked how they protect Gaza Strip), has asked for 3000 people here on the TX border (crickets). Perry has set up an elite Texas Ranger unit to work on the border. Then we find out the Feds have been "running guns" across the border and we've had people killed because of that.

The Texas Dream Act was set up because we have a lot of kids here from the way the feds have allowed this to snowball. Students who have been in Texas for 3 years and graduated from a Texas high school get instate tuition (no benefits -- they pay their way) The entire Texas Senate voted for this in 2001. (The Texas Dream Act does NOT have all the hidden goodies the U.S. Congress "Dream Act" was trying to get into law.)

Perry has said: “If you show up illegally, without your card or you’re here as a criminal element, I’m for throwing the book at those folks, but the issue of people who want to legally, thoughtfully and appropriately come to America to work and help us build our economy — we should quickly come up with a program and an identification card to do that.”

The Texas legislature meets every 2 years for 140 days and the governor is allowed to call Special Sessions. He called a Special Session because he had put "sanctuary cities" on the agenda and the legislature dropped the ball -- but the Senate and then the House left again -- giving Gov. Perry nothing to sign (Texas legislators also have elections they'll be facing and no doubt didn't want a vote on this shadowing their re-election bids).

In this just ended session, after about 3 tries to slip it into a bill, a law that required people to show their birth certificate to get a drivers license got through [The amendment, added by Rep. Jim Pitts, R-Waxahachie, to the education funding bill legislators needed to balance the state budget had originally been included in Senate Bill 9, the so-called "sanctuary cities" bill that failed in the special session. It also had appeared in an omnibus homeland security bill by Sen. Tommy Williams, R-The Woodlands, that died in the regular session......By putting it into law the state potentially undermines an ongoing lawsuit that argues DPS doesn't have authority to check legal status.]. However, the ink on that law was barely dry before it was overturned by a judge – as usual.

In this last Texas Legislative session Gov. Perry signed the Texas Photo ID Voting Law -- it took 6 years to get it through -- Only 6 states have a PHOTO Voter ID requirement.

Texas has a long history with Mexico and being "Mexican" does not mean that you aren't an American, or a Texan. A lot of Texans have Mexican heritage or are married to someone who does. Perry doesn't lead with his chin. He's a thoughtful man.

Rick Perry is as ready to fix this as anyone and understands it probably better than anyone running -- or commenting anonymously on a chat site.

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On another thread a FReeper Comment: His refusal to deal with illegals is one reason I’m not enthusiastic about Perry.

FReeper Reply: “Keep one thing in context. He is the only person in the race (maybe) that has border security problems. Palin doesn't, Romney, Cain, Pawlenty, etc. None of them do. Every single one of these candidates can sit back and pick at Perry on border issues and not have to face the same questions.

Are you with me?

That being said,(and I am a native Texan,) I truly believe Perry has been smart on border issues. He cannot act unilaterally to solve the problem. Realize that, first. With what he has at his disposal, I think he's been very firm and solid - urging Obama to provide troops, passing a voter I.D. law (illegals can potentially vote with enough credentials short of a driver's license)...incidentally, since Perry has been governor, he has made it virtually impossible for illegals to get a D.L. in this state. Before Perry, they could walk in to any DMV office and obtain one without a birth certificate.

And finally, while his border record is within the scope of his duties as governor, he has operated in a way that I think will benefit him with hispanic voters in Texas and possibly elsewhere. In other words, while being as firm as he can, he hasn't alienated and pissed off hispanics in the process.

What you and I wish for on immigration, in the broader picture, can cripple a candidate, come voting time. Its a dangerous perch to be on and while the temptation to rattle sabres might suit you and me, you have to think about all the hispanic republicans and natives that a candidate can LOSE in that process. Slippery slope, proceed with caution.

He has." [end]

15 posted on 08/11/2011 7:15:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: mewzilla

I’m not sure, but HB 1403 was passed 10 years ago. It’s survived, somehow.


18 posted on 08/11/2011 7:17:20 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org)(I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.)(RIAing))
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To: mewzilla

Hispandeering is not the anwser. They must step up and join the American family through values and principles, starting with the Rule of Law.This act set a national trend and now CHECK OUT WHAT THE PEOPLE OF MD. HAD TO SAY ABOUT THIS! 30% Democrats signed the petition to overrule this Ruling-Class garbage and delusional RINO political strategery.
In TEXAS & NM grant monies to illegals is also being offered. Many do not know this. If you have O & G revenues and pay taxes let me know. A lawyer is collecting plaintiffs.


25 posted on 08/11/2011 7:21:13 AM PDT by magna carta
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