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'Irrefutable' proof of Obama forgery
WND ^ | July 16, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 07/18/2011 4:28:59 AM PDT by RobinMasters

NEW YORK – Unless the typewriter used to type Barack Obama's purported Hawaiian "Certificate of Live Birth" in 1961 was magically capable of producing different size and shaped images with the exact same key, the document released by the White House April 27 is a forgery, says a professional typographer with 50 years experience.

"Steel-stamped letters do not expand to larger sizes and morph into different styles of type," retired New York City typographer Paul Irey told WND.

As WND previously reported, it would be impossible for the different letters that appear in the Obama birth certificate to have been typed by one typewriter, according to Irey.

"These are irrefutable proofs of forgery," he said.

His newest analysis suggests the document was assembled from images of letters or words taken from other documents.

"The forger who produced the Obama Hawaii long-form birth certificate may have thought that all typewriter typeface styles were alike," he said.

"To get his letters, the forger must have understood that he needed to copy the old typewriter styles," he continued. "So the forger probably scanned a bunch of old birth certificates, without realizing that the letters in the old files were from different typewriter styles. That's why the letters in the forged document do not match each other."

Irey used as a source document the Xerox copy of the Obama birth certificate the White House press staff handed to the press assembled in the White House pressroom on April 27, as seen in Exhibit 1:

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: barrysoetoro; bc; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; corruption; corsi; eligibility; farahsfolly; forgery; hawaii; hopespringseternal; naturalborncitizen; thistimeforsure; usurper; wnd
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To: Triple

Here is Butters take on the seals. As usual, she makes a great argument and adds more potential evidence that the LFBC and the first piece of art are NOT legit.
Sorry about the repeated posts above!


141 posted on 07/19/2011 8:54:34 AM PDT by charlene4 ("The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” BHO)
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To: charlene4

http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/obama-bc-seal-contradicts-factcheck.pdf


142 posted on 07/19/2011 8:55:37 AM PDT by charlene4 ("The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” BHO)
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To: Vintage Freeper

We the people who are not doing our jobs.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

One more thing:

The officer’s oath to defend the Constitution does not have an addedum that says. “defend the the Constitution except when “we the people are not doing their jobs”. Their oath is defend the Constitution whether or not the people are doing their jobs!


143 posted on 07/19/2011 8:56:44 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome; P-Marlowe

I would add that that very fact makes some individuals within the DoH in HI co-conspirators who at the very least has knowledge of a felony which is Misprision of a felony.


144 posted on 07/19/2011 9:12:24 AM PDT by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")
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To: GregNH

“I would add that that very fact makes some individuals within the DoH in HI co-conspirators who at the very least has knowledge of a felony which is Misprision of a felony”

Sure would seem so! I wonder though, if what we have seen on WH.Gov is indeed the exact *copy* that HI officials provided?????

Lots of room for changes from HI to DC to copy machine!


145 posted on 07/19/2011 9:19:00 AM PDT by charlene4 ("The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” BHO)
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To: wintertime

“How can it be helpful for Obama to have MORE than half the nation doubting his natural born citizenship?
Imagine that!!! Half the nation can not say with certainty that the occupant of the White House was born in U.S. territory.

In the court of public opinion there is NO possible way that this can be considered “good” for Obama or the Democratic Party!”

You have to think like a leftist in order to understand Zero’s point of view. Barry’s political calculation is that those who care about his birth certificate won’t be voting for him anyway.

Obama currently has a 79% positive job approval rating among Democrats and a 51% positive rating among folks who consider themselves to be “moderates.” Folks who identify as “liberals” give him a 75% positive rating, according to the Gallup Poll from last week.
I’m guessing that Zero’s political advisors’ thinking is: “hold Democrats and hold left leaning independents, and win reelection.”

We’ll all know whether Zero’s is a bad or a good calculation on the first Tuesday of November, 2012.


146 posted on 07/19/2011 9:37:17 AM PDT by jh4freedom
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

“A short form Certification of Live Birth(COLB) from Hawai’i is an abstract. A long form Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii is a copy.”

Thank you. So, why does the “stamp” on the “document” released online by the WH state ““I certify this is a true copy or abstract of tXe record. . .”? And of course, by your own remarks, “A short form Certification of Live Birth (COLB) from Hawai’i is an abstract” but “A long form Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii is a copy.” and yet the LFBC online image released indicates that is a true copy “or abstract”? WFTO?

I’ll take weak forgeries for $2.4 Trillion, Alex.”

The state of Hawaii Registrar of Vital Statistics uses the same stamp for certifying short forms or long forms, hence “true copy OR abstract.”

Dr. Onaka, who applied the stamp is alive and well and still working as Registrar of Vital Statistics for the state of Hawaii. Any member of the media, any member of Congress, any judge, or any attorney who deposes him can ask him those questions directly.

Since April 27th, no one has asked and no one has simply gone to a law enforcement agency and asked them to initiate a forgery investigation as a part of an election fraud investigation since the name “Barack Obama” appeared on the ballot in all 50 states plus the District of Columbia.
Go figure.


147 posted on 07/19/2011 9:52:11 AM PDT by jh4freedom
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To: charlene4

I think it is established that the document posted on WH dot gov is a forgery created on a computer. So we can assume that the two copies waved on the TV camera’s were printed from that computer generated image. Therefore there were no copies generated in HI, there was no plane trip to pick them up, there was no Fuddy witnessing the copies being made.....


148 posted on 07/19/2011 9:52:18 AM PDT by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")
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To: PA-RIVER

A con man who has had hidden financial backing his whole life and a host of assistants in his criminal enterprise.


149 posted on 07/19/2011 9:52:46 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: GregNH

I think it is established that the document posted on WH dot gov is a forgery created on a computer. So we can assume that the two copies waved on the TV camera’s were printed from that computer generated image. Therefore there were no copies generated in HI, there was no plane trip to pick them up, there was no Fuddy witnessing the copies being made.....

What you think is established is going to be tough to prove in a court of law, before a grand jury or in front of a Congressional committee.

From the former Governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle:
“You know, during the campaign of 2008, I was actually in the mainland campaigning for Sen. McCain. This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again I think it’s one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country. And so I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that’s just a fact. And yet people continue to call up and e-mail and want to make it an issue. And I think it’s, again, a horrible distraction for the country by those people who continue this. ... It’s been established. He was born here.”—May 2, 2010

Additionally there has been an Index file entry for “Obama, Barack H., Male” in the 1961 birth index of all Hawaii births that has been available for public inspection for many years now.
“In Hawaii, Accessing Some Obama Birth Info is Easy”
http://www.courierpress.com/news/2011/apr/24/hawaii-accessing-some-obama-birth-info-easy/

Finally, if anyone wants to see exactly what the state of Hawaii has on file or doesn’t have on file for Barack Hussein Obama II, they need a COURT ORDER from a judge to gain access to the file. A court order is NOT a subpoena. It must be issued by a judge.
Hawaii law states that a copy of a confidential birth record can be released to: “a person whose right to inspect or obtain a copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction.”—Hawaii Revised Statutes 338-18 (b).


150 posted on 07/19/2011 10:09:14 AM PDT by jh4freedom
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To: jh4freedom

Somewhere, someone posted 2 different photograhed in person, pics of the Birth Index. They were different on different dates. Suggesting that again somethin stinks in HI.


151 posted on 07/19/2011 10:18:16 AM PDT by charlene4 ("The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” BHO)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
Not so useless if you were making an electronic copy of something you later wanted to search for by text within it. Scanners for document archiving can add an invisible text layer to a PDF document for that purpose.

The way software is written nowadays, it wouldn't surprise me if unnecessary functions were performed even when they served no purpose. Anyone who's used a Microsoft product is familiar with this phenomenon. How much simpler would things be if you only created a text version when you wanted one?

It's possible that feature was on by default in whatever software was used to scan the BC, even though in this case it wouldn't be needed (and would have saved a lot of trouble if it had been turned off).

Proof of incompetence by someone, Nicht Wahr?

Again, without knowing what scanner and software were used, and how, this has to be just speculation.

Somewhere in one of these threads "Bushpilot1" (I think) posted a link that purports to show what software was used to create the document. If I recall properly, he said it was some Apple application. Supposedly this data was contained in the PDF file.

The answer would be (I think) that the OCR didn't recognize the first 'R' as an R, and so left it part of the background--i.e., it didn't try to extract and "read" it--probably because it was more gray than black. In the second instance, though, it grouped it with the text rather than with the background.

I think that theory does nothing to explain why the pixels of the "R" are 4 times the size of the pixels of all the other letters. If it thought it was part of the background, it would use the default pixel size. I argue that the destination surface was of uniform size, and the software copied what it saw using 4 pixels of the destination surface for every pixel of the source image. The question is, how could it "see" pixels four times larger (and with different bit depth) on one character and not any others?

I see this as the "smoking gun" of a paste up. It is not the only peculiarity.

152 posted on 07/19/2011 10:51:16 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: jh4freedom
First of all just because this is the first time I have posted on this particular thread does not mean that I have not read your regurgitation's several times.

Why you have ignored my point is curious. I did not questions the one's birth place. I simply pointed out that the document is phony. I would also point out that there are plenty of expert witnesses that would testify in front of a Congressional committee. Here is the real problem.

"Finally, if anyone wants to see exactly what the state of Hawaii has on file or doesn’t have on file for Barack Hussein Obama II, they need a COURT ORDER from a judge to gain access to the file."

I have two issues with this statement and what it means.

1.) Anyone who voted for Obama cannot be very happy that he has not allowed access to these records and in fact has been fighting access for over 4 years.

2.) The NBC clause in the Constitution was written by honorable men for honorable men. An honorable man would not have even run knowing his was ineligible.

You seem to be happy with both of the above.

153 posted on 07/19/2011 11:05:34 AM PDT by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")
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To: x
Try your hand at explaining the difference in pixel size (and bit depth) between the "A" and the "R" of the word "BARACK".

The "R" uses 4 pixels of the destination surface for ever pixel on the source surface. The "A" uses one to one.

154 posted on 07/19/2011 11:10:55 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: charlene4

“Somewhere, someone posted 2 different photograhed in person, pics of the Birth Index. They were different on different dates. Suggesting that again somethin stinks in HI.”

Whoever took those photos should get copies of them to any of the Obama eligibility attorneys. They would make strong evidence. Maybe even strong enough to help launch a grand jury investigation.

The Index data for Obama was first viewed by members of the public during the previous administration of Governor Lingle.

I’m trying to figure out a motive for Hawai’i officials under a Governor who endorsed McCain and gave one of Sarah Palin’s endorsement speeches to want to help Barry Soetoro.


155 posted on 07/19/2011 11:13:10 AM PDT by jh4freedom
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To: little jeremiah
Our Presidents closest associates from Chicago are either doing time in the Illinois State prison system, or openly admit they should be.

Birds of a Feather flock together. Our President is a low life sleazebag.

156 posted on 07/19/2011 11:15:48 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: DiogenesLamp
I thought OCR was designed to translate graphic text into computer formatted letters. If OCR was used and letters were recognized, wouldn't the letters be perfect shapes?
157 posted on 07/19/2011 11:34:38 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: x

you completely ignore (while referring to it) the problem with the curved portion of the scan.

the lines of the boxes curve with the paper- but the letters do not

FRAUD


158 posted on 07/19/2011 11:35:33 AM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: GregNH

“First of all just because this is the first time I have posted on this particular thread does not mean that I have not read your regurgitation’s several times.
Why you have ignored my point is curious. I did not questions the one’s birth place. I simply pointed out that the document is phony. I would also point out that there are plenty of expert witnesses that would testify in front of a Congressional committee. Here is the real problem.

I have two issues with this statement and what it means.

1.) Anyone who voted for Obama cannot be very happy that he has not allowed access to these records and in fact has been fighting access for over 4 years.

2.) The NBC clause in the Constitution was written by honorable men for honorable men. An honorable man would not have even run knowing his was ineligible.

You seem to be happy with both of the above.”

1) Can you think of anything better than people not being happy with Obama enough to not reelect him?

2) Obama obviously thinks he’s eligible. That’s why he wrote Dreams From My Father 13 years before he ran for President. That’s also why he posted a COLB on the internet in 2008 and that’s why he released a long form in April.
The Republican leadership in Congress think that he is eligible and the Supreme Court thinks that he’s eligible.

You are not suggesting that Barack Obama is our first dishonorable president are you? Ever heard of Nixon or Clinton?


159 posted on 07/19/2011 11:54:08 AM PDT by jh4freedom
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To: Mr. K
the lines of the boxes curve with the paper- but the letters do not

The area of greatest curvature (presumably due to being bound in a book) is by the left margin. There isn't much writing there, but if you look at line two for sex "MALE" you do see a little curvature. I see some curving as well in the name of the hospital "Kapiolani."

Most of the typing is either in areas where you'd expect (and find) little curvature, but on the left side there is a tiny (expected) amount of curvature that's hard to measure with the naked eye.

If there's a problem here it's more with the printed letters of form itself, which doesn't show much obvious curvature, but being smaller, it's even harder to see if they curve or not. I really doubt the forger would create the printed letters of the form with letters from different sources. The form would have been his or her given template. But if you're into microscopic analysis and have the tools you might check it out.

Look at anything closely enough and you'll notice irregularities and anomalies. Corsi takes the kind of irregularities that you'd expect from an authentic manually-typed document for signs of forgery, but a more exact, more precise document would be more likely to be a forgery.

Many of the letters Corsi complains about are in about the same place on the document: in words like Barack, Kapiolani, Male, Stanley located far on the left. The translation of a three dimensional object (a bound volume) to a two dimensional graphic may account for this. If the irregularities can be accounted for in this fashion, they aren't really irregularities.

Notice that the dimensions (width) of the letters are only really called into question where curvature is an issue. For Corsi's other points consider what happens when key strokes of different force take slightly different amounts of ink from the ribbon and are absorbed in slightly different ways by the paper.

The print world of the typographer may have been different, but everyone who's used a manual typewriter should have noticed at some point that the letters don't always come out identical on the paper even if they are produced by the same key.

160 posted on 07/19/2011 12:18:45 PM PDT by x
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