Posted on 07/18/2011 4:28:59 AM PDT by RobinMasters
NEW YORK – Unless the typewriter used to type Barack Obama's purported Hawaiian "Certificate of Live Birth" in 1961 was magically capable of producing different size and shaped images with the exact same key, the document released by the White House April 27 is a forgery, says a professional typographer with 50 years experience.
"Steel-stamped letters do not expand to larger sizes and morph into different styles of type," retired New York City typographer Paul Irey told WND.
As WND previously reported, it would be impossible for the different letters that appear in the Obama birth certificate to have been typed by one typewriter, according to Irey.
"These are irrefutable proofs of forgery," he said.
His newest analysis suggests the document was assembled from images of letters or words taken from other documents.
"The forger who produced the Obama Hawaii long-form birth certificate may have thought that all typewriter typeface styles were alike," he said.
"To get his letters, the forger must have understood that he needed to copy the old typewriter styles," he continued. "So the forger probably scanned a bunch of old birth certificates, without realizing that the letters in the old files were from different typewriter styles. That's why the letters in the forged document do not match each other."
Irey used as a source document the Xerox copy of the Obama birth certificate the White House press staff handed to the press assembled in the White House pressroom on April 27, as seen in Exhibit 1:
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
U. K. L. Lee
sklar
Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 2:36:04 AM by sklar
Post #10 a copy of BC where Mother’s address is a *BARRACKS* wonder why they didn’t just use this as his name when they copy and pasted the letters?
U. K. L. Lee
sklar
Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 2:36:04 AM by sklar
Post #10 a copy of BC where Mother’s address is a *BARRACKS* wonder why they didn’t just use this as his name when they copy and pasted the letters?
“I don’t write any of this to discourage people from seeking the truth about the birth certificate - far from it. The truth matters. But I do believe that doing so too loudly and making it a focal point can only hurt us.”
So what you’re saying is that, while the situation stinks, it is in fact okay to poop on the Consitution, just this once on the eligibility issue, and “we’ll get ‘em next time” in 2012. Sorry, but I’m not down with that. I’ll continue to attack Whateverhisnameis on all fronts, from the economic disaster he is deliberately formenting, to the fraudulent SS# he’s using, to the unconstitutional use of the military in Libya and so on. That includes pointing out the forged birth credentials and lack of virtually any historical, verifiable records associated with this impostor. If my only avenue of redress in removing this scumbag is via the ballot box next year then so be it. That doesn’t mean that I have to cease in my efforts to educate my fellow citizens on the issue of the supreme fraud and usurpation of the office of President of the United States that has been perpetrated on the citizenry of our once-great Republic. And frankly, I’ve about had it with the defeatist, “let it go” attitude of folks who otherwise appear to fall firmly within Constitutionalist camp. No offense intended.
“I think the problem is, “everyone cares” in D.C. because most of D.C. is complicit at this point. Its all about watching elitist backsides now, not the welfare of the Country.. “
+1
the R in one of them also has a different pixel construct. I wanted to believe it was legit, but it is a cut and paste pile of crap. There is no way around it.
OCR or not, we have two type sets for R. That is a miracle. Maybe “O” is super natural.
hold your hands two feet from your face. The finger prints are the same ....
After- birthers are simultaneously arguing:
1. The forger could not have been this stupid - different typefaces are too big of a mistake
2. The type faces are not in fact different, so this is not an issue at all
Unless another poster here can provide evidence to the contrary (link or sink), I would say that the answer to your question is a Big. Fat. NO.
Never mind all of the indications that the WH “document” is a forgery. Try sending in a scanned copy of your birth certificate as part of your application package for a passport or other important identity document and see how far that gets you. Think the relevant agency would be able to complete your application process? I’m thinking, not so much. But apparently a scanned document is good enough a credential for the most powerful office in the world.
Oh, and that lightning thing? I seem to recall something about bolts lashing the White House on Easter of this year, and when Obama didn’t have a message for the Christian faithful of our Nation for some reason. Hmmmm
“The words that are on certified abstracts or copies of Hawai’ian birth records are: “I certify this is a true copy or abstract of the record on file at the Hawai’i state Department of Health.—signed Alvin T. Onaka, State Registrar.”
A short form Certification of Live Birth(COLB) from Hawai’i is an abstract. A long form Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii is a copy.”
Thank you. So, why does the “stamp” on the “document” released online by the WH state ““I certify this is a true copy or abstract of tXe record. . .”? And of course, by your own remarks, “A short form Certification of Live Birth (COLB) from Hawai’i is an abstract” but “A long form Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii is a copy.” and yet the LFBC online image released indicates that is a true copy “or abstract”? WFTO?
I’ll take weak forgeries for $2.4 Trillion, Alex.
"MY** position is that the very highest military should seek peaceful and legal **certifiable** clarification of Obama identity and natural born citizenship from the congress and the courts."
But I have to ask you and ml/nj where in the Constitution does it state the military has a duty to participate in debates beween the executive, judicial or legislative branches who are Constitutional powers that lie above the military. The military's duty is to obey, not challenge.
If the American people need somebody to save them from our government, it is We the people who are not doing our jobs. And if there is any merit at all in the study of history, looking to the military as a savior for the people is looking in one of the worst possible places.
I have had my say and have nothing more to offer. The field is yours; make any claims or statements you choose.
This is **your** strawman. I have never suggested a “debate”.
The highest military have a DUTY ( they swore an oath) to uphold the Constitution. There is supposed to be a military code of honor.
Ignoring forgery of questionable birth documents, identity theft, social security fraud, election fraud, and ( the worst) pretending to be a Commander in Chief is not defending the Constitution or upholding the military code of honor or looking out for the welfare of the men and women serving under them.
There are legal and PEACEFUL options open to the highest military:
—They can legally and peacefully ( and it is their DUTY to do so) request from congress and the courts certifiable clarification of Obama’s identity, natural born status, and his citizenship.
NO debate involved!
That lightning did seem to be an omen. :-)
Imagine that!!! Half the nation can not say with certainty that the occupant of the White House was born in U.S. territory.
In the court of public opinion there is NO possible way that this can be considered “good” for Obama or the Democratic Party!
There is another PEACEFUL and legal action that the highest military could take. ( no debate involved) They could ask the president to provide certifiable clarification of his natural born citizenship and identity. This would, of course, include a valid social security number. ( NO debate involved!)
There could be several outcomes to this:
1) There is no evidence that Obama is a natural born citizen, or there is evidence that he is not a citizen, and there is evidence of identity theft and social security fraud. In this case, the highest military would hold a press conference and turn the evidence over to the courts, congress, and the FB for action. ( no debate)
2) Obama could refuse to present certifiable evidence of his identity and natural born citizenship. At this point, the highest military could hold a very public press conference ( peacefully and legally), state that the occupant of the White House refuses to prove his identity and natural born citizenship with certifiable evidence, and then they RESIGN their commissions. The next layer of officers does the same followed by the next and the next and the next.
THAT is what men and women of **HONOR** would do!
Type face should be consistent , yet we should not have Identical pixil patterns.
In this copy, We have inconsistent typeface and then we have Identical pixils indicating copy and paste.
Letters should have microscopic variations due to ink absorption, paper and ribbon variations. But they should hold the same basic strike pattern from the type face.
Look at the letter R. It is obvious that it is struck from a different type writer.
These are two separate issues. There is a difference, and they are both valid.
Also remember, we are dealing with Obama, a serial liar. A man who's claim to fame is writing a book ... that he didn't write. Who claimed to be a Law professor ... and he's not a law professor. A man who claimed a new entitlement program would lower the national debt. A Hawaiian with a Connecticut SS number. We are dealing with a con man.
Remember the Sports announcer asking him about his favorite team? He calls himself a “Chicago Kid”, yet the little prick grew up in Hawaii and Indonesia. He couldn't name a single player and mispronounced the park name. “Kaminsky park.” Right.
Taking this mans word and personal documents as fact is a huge mistake. The only documentation about the man is that he lies consistently.
PA - I am soooo in agreement.
The WH LFCOLB has so many problems with it it is clearly NOT what it was reported to be - a simple scan of an authentic LFCOLB flown in from Hawaii.
It just can’t be.
Nobody claiming that the problems with the WH_LFCOLB.PDF come from the scanning and optimization process can duplicate the results - not even close.
They typically devolve to the approach of saying a forger just would not make the mistake.
The WH_LFCOLB.PDF leaves MANY questions open...
Here is something I would like to see:
The same type-face character analysis performed on scans of authentic LFCOLBS from Hawaii circa 1961.
It would be an interesting comparison - to see what normal variation looks like on the characters.
I bet there is a stark difference in the character variation between Obama’s and an authentic LFCOLB.
Anyone know if that is out there?
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