The Oklahoma presidential constitutional eligibility vetting bill SB-91 passed the House 77-13.

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[RobinMasters]

As first reported here, Oklahoma was seeking proof of eligibility legislation...It has now passed and headed to the governor for her signature... I will update this post when more details are available...

[RobinMasters]

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[blackdog]

Lady governors seem to trap shoot these bills down like an Aegis gun ship. Let’s hope she hasn’t received a love letter.

[bgill]

Does it still not include the NBC? If not, he can use that piece of tp he’s waving around today and he’s good to go.

[newzjunkey]

Status on the eligibility bills:

OK - SB91 passed Senate 34-10, passed House 77-13 4/27/2011. Referred for engrossment.

LA - HB 561 in committee as of 4/15/2011. Reading 4/25/2011.

NE - LB 654 hearing held as of 3/10/11.

TX - HB 295 intro'd 11/10, in committee as of 2/15

MO - Failed in '09. Trying again, HB 283 hearing held as of 3/1/11. Not on calendar.

CT - SB 391 intro'd 1/11. In committee.

IA - SF 369, intro'd 3/2. In committee as of 3/3.

HI - HB1116 Rida Cabanilla (D!) intro'd bill 1/11 to supply BC for "persons of civic prominence" upon request and $100 fee.

TN - SB 1043, died in committee as of 3/30.
ME - LD34, Died in committee 3/3/11.
GA - Failed in '10. (HB 1516). Failed in '11 (HB 401).
MT - HB 205 intro'd 1/11. "Missed Deadline for General Bill Transmittal"
AZ - Failed in '10 - passed house, senate refused to vote. Tried '11, vetoed.
IN - Intro'd 1/11. Died in committee.
NH - Intro'd 3/11. Died in committee.

[Jane Long]

Let’s hope she doesn’t go Jan Brewer on us.

[blackdog]

Some people are just uncomfortable with legislation referencing circumcision records. After all, Chaz Bono could never comply no matter how hard trying.

[TEXOKIE]

Your mouth to God’s ear!

[Future Useless Eater]

Does anyone know if the horribly phoney long form .pdf file (with evidence of being edited) that zero released today, would pass muster as “proof” with this State?

Or does Oklahoma require it be given permission to go to the source (Hawaii) and independently obtain its OWN certified copy of the candidate’s claimed “proof”?

[Jane Long]

I think you’re referring to the new Fauxbama Passport applications.

[dalebert]

I thought Nancy P. certified him for last election?

[melancholy]

Ping...............

The Oklahoma presidential constitutional eligibility vetting bill SB-91 passed the House 77-13. Forged BC antidote?

[butterdezillion]

It mentions NBC to say that certain documents are to be presented to prove natural born citizenship.

At this point the only critical point is whether anybody has standing to challenge eligibility in court - including the right to access the transaction logs and complete vital records history for all birth and citizenship records. And I don’t see anything in the bill that grants standing to challenge eligibility.

Seems like this might be a case where the intentions are good but the bill unfortunately doesn’t deal realistically with what we’re up against.

[HappyWarrior2012]

IF this bill does the job right it will require a certified copy of Obama’s birth certificate. Proof of citizenship of BOTH his parents at the time of birth.

The Sec. of State will be charged with verifying the validity of citizenship and age.

It won’t matter if this new BC is valid or not. His father was not, and never has been a US citizen.

[butterdezillion]

I don’t believe an abstract such as Obama presented today would suffice. It would have to be a certified copy of the actual birth certificate.

But as long as government bureaucrats are willing to falsify records for Obama, the HDOH could certify a forged document and there would be nothing to stop a judge from denying standing to anybody who challenged whether Obama was eligible - which would be the only way to get access to the transaction logs which alone can tell us whether the records are genuine.

The two big problems we have right now are bureaucrats who are willing to falsify and forge records, and the NBC issue. Both of those are dead ends right now because judges all deny standing. So the only way to make sure that those 2 dead ends don’t abort justice with Obama or anybody else is by specifically granting normal people standing to challenge eligibility and to subpoena the transaction logs for all birth and citizenship records.

Without that, the only other way I know of for justice is if a Secretary of State actually refused to put Obama on the ballot, forcing Obama to sue - and if the state AG then had the guts to conduct a legal investigation and/or subpoena the transaction logs. I’m not sure whether a judge could deny the AG the ability to subpoena the records in either a lawsuit or a legal investigation.

[Vendome]

MuBarak is an idiot to have released this “Copy of Date Points” on a Wednesday!

What moron doesn’t know that if you want a story to die you release it over the weekend or on a holiday?

Further, it may have been enough to convince Lieutenant Lakin to continue following orders of deployment as he had done so many times, honorably, as a decorated veteran would do and does.

But no... He let an honorable man hang in the wind, under a cloud of doubt and ruin his career and life. For What?

This settles nothing and I want to see the one he found among his mother’s belongings when she passed in 1995, as well the one that is sealed in his admissions for kindergarten and preschool.

Barak, if this settles it for you then you screwed a fine man and you should be ashamed!

You have no honor.

[Vendome]

This whole BC thing is a put up.  A Fairy Tail!

 

It's a slight of hand and there is no reason to have not put an original copy of his Long Form Birth Certificate out there in the 1st place.

 

But, think of it.  There are three that are known to exist or have existed and has at least two in his possessoin:

 

• The Birth Certificate that was submitted for his admission into the Hawaiian school system.  The files containing that BC and his records for immunization are sealed by court order on MuBarak's requrest.

 

• "If" he used an American Passport for travel to Indonesia and Pakistan, when he turned 18, he would have a copy of his birth certificate from that event.

 

• He absolutely has a Birth Certificate, in it's original black & white format, that "He Found" Among His Mother's belongings, when she passed in 1995.

 

• A friend just reminded me that one gets married they are required to present a Long Form Birth Certificate!!!  NO KIDDING!??  I had completely overlooked that!!!

 

• I do wonder if he had to submit another BC when he returned back to the Hawaii school system to re-enter school???

 

 

 

Let them claim there is no long form.

 

1st.  They and everyone has said all along the COLB is an abstract.  A COLB is a walkup document, meaning you can walk up to the desk, ask for your BC and they will provide an abstract, called a COLB in about 10 minutes.  That means there is a long form and Hawaii statutes, starting at (318)

 

2nd.  Hawaii already said they have seen Barry O.'s vital records and issued two statements - blah, blah, blah, right?

 

3rd.  Barry O. never had to show his long form BC ever, in his life, for anything?  Like obtaining a passport.  That one document is better than a drivers license.  It saying to the world you are who is contained in the passport document, which is based on an investigation of your background and YOU MUST provide a Birth Certificate as foundational proof of who YOU say you are.  From there the State Department does their background check on you and if you are who you say you are with no ammendments, modifications or whatever to your identity they issue it clean. 

 

Most adults can go to a desk or filing cabinet in his house and produce a birth certificate in a few minutes?

 

Barry O. tried to pass of something that was inconsistent with what the rest of have and know to be a “Birth Certificate”.

The so called COLB has many flaws with it:

• His father’s race could never have been listed as “African”.  That was not the nomenclature at all, in the 1960’s.  So that begins the suspicion of a fraudulent document.
•  The COLB is also cropped in many of the pictures that claim it is a scan.  If it is a scan, why not leave the document and size intact?
• The COLB also has no artifacts such paper folds.  A scan does not make those disappear and in fact will highlight them.
• The COLB that is scanned mysteriously does not show the Seal of Hawaii.  Why?  Because it was computer generated and not scanned.  Guess they forgot to add that back in.
• More over, many of us are concerned and want to know why he wasted time producing a document that is inconsistent with what we know a Birth Certificate looks like.

 The best part and even more confusing is why he didn't release any of the three Birth Certificates we know already existed before 2007.

• His kindergarten records and the BC, that should be there, have mysteriously disappeared.
• The BC he used to get into college, apply for loans and most definitely used for his passport. That wasn't available?
• Why couldn't he just present the one he found among his mother's belongings upon her death.   He waxed on and wondered about it and his father in one of his books.  Why not post that one?

Those were most certainly BC’s and not a COLB. There is no reason to create confusion but, for the fact he is hiding something. That something will be discovered, though and this is a long process.

“I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school. It’s a short piece, with a photograph of him. No mention is made of my mother or me, and I’m left to wonder whether the omission was intentional on my father’s part, in anticipation of his long departure. Perhaps the reporter failed to ask personal questions, intimidated by my father’s imperious manner; or perhaps it was an editorial decision, not part of the simple story that they were looking for. I wonder, too, whether the omission caused a fight between my parents.”

From “Dreams From My Father” (Pg. 26 last paragraph)

So with all these Birth Certificates lying around, why did he feel it necessary to produce a "Certification of Live Birth" that is inconsistent with a Birth Certificate and wholly lacking all of the information you would find, in you know, a Birth Certificate?

He seemed to have some emotional attachment to the Birth Certificate found among his mother’s belongings.  Why wouldn’t he just slap that one up, for all the world to see?

It seemed important that he found a document that is called a “Birth Certificate” and it is highly unlikely he would not know what one looks like.

Hope no one brings up some house fire that vaporized his BC.  That was in 1972 and none of the documents listed here would have been affected by that “fishy” event.

 

The point of the birth certificate is to uncover this man's past for it's factual existence and not the narrative we have been told.

 

We want to know if he ever traveled, went to school in America, obtained loans, etc in another name or as a foreign student or as a foreigner!!!!

 

That is what we are after at a minimum.

 

Finally, there can be no doubt Barak was in fact born with a divided citizenship.  He proudly admits as much.

 

That means if we were conscripted by draft into the United States Military during a conflict, when he was 18, he could have avoided the draft by simply returning to another country of his citizenship.  We know and he admits he was a citizen of Kenya at the age of 18 so he could have returned with no penalty, to Kenya and not even I would call him a draft dodger if had under those circumstances.

 

You are wholly one thing or another but not two distinctly different and separate things that conflict with each other's existence.

 

He was born with a divided allegiance and is "Not a Natural Born Citizen".  Might be a citizen but, he ain't a Natural Born Citizen.

[blackdog]

No, the Arizona bill accepted circumcision records.........For a candidate’s proof of citizenship!

[thecodont]

IF this bill does the job right it will require a certified copy of Obama’s birth certificate. Proof of citizenship of BOTH his parents at the time of birth.

The Sec. of State will be charged with verifying the validity of citizenship and age.

It won’t matter if this new BC is valid or not. His father was not, and never has been a US citizen.

If "what it means to be a United States citizen" were still being taught in schools, we wouldn't have a need for eligibility bills. Bank tellers have pictures of genuine United States currency posted inside the bank vault door so they get to look at the real thing day in and day out--that way, any fake that pops up stands out like a sore thumb.

BO should be standing out like a sore thumb. But he isn't. Why not?

I think there are several causes.

Since more lax attitudes about illegal immigration have been introduced, the concept of U.S. citizenship has been severely devalued. The romance of the journey to America, seeing the Statue of Liberty for the first time from the deck of a ship, going through Immigration on Ellis Island--all that pales in comparison to a tale of a night journey through unprotected back country and jumping a border fence, or being huddled in a sweltering van with two dozen others just like you, shivering at the prospect of being discovered by the Border Patrol. No one has to really work at being an American anymore. Just sneak over and pretend you're one. Have a baby here and use that baby as an anchor. Call over all the other relatives and "keep the family together."

Along with that, I think there has been some growing attitude--it's hard for me to put my finger on it--that America belongs to "the wrong people." The concept of "natural born citizen" in terms of Article II considerations could be explained to the layman as simply being a "second-generation American" (at least a second-generation American). This idea is so simple and yet it doesn't have the circulation it deserves. There is an accompanying attitude (it makes no sense at all) that "second-generation" can't possibly, in any way, shape, or form, apply to "nonwhite" people.

Consider Bob from Nebraska. His grand-dad and grandma were naturalized. He wears flannel plaid shirts. He grows corn. His son is in Little League.

Oh, and his ancestors were from Viet Nam.

This is someone eligible for the office of President, and yet we never hear of him as a candidate. Only nonwhite people who are anchor babies or naturalized are being touted as candidates. Why is this?

I think that BO was seen as an attractive POTUS candidate BECAUSE he was foreign, not in spite of it, for the very reasons stated above. The underlying cultural attitude was that nonwhite couldn't possibly be second-generation American, thus if a nonwhite were to be POTUS, they'd have to be an anchor baby or naturalized.