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It Feels Drafty [Former Nixon Aide Advocates Universal Draft]
The Episconixonian ^ | March 15, 2011 | John Taylor

Posted on 03/16/2011 10:12:42 AM PDT by Rufii

It Feels Drafty

By John H. Taylor

My cousin and fellow Episcopalian and blogger, Bebe Bahnsen, believes it's time for rich and poor to share the burden of defending our country. For one thing, she thinks we'd all pay more attention to decisions about where, when, and how military force is used:

And I believe it should be a universal draft—men and women. The new draft I envision would require one or two years of service from all young Americans. Many would probably be in the military but there might be other ways to perform required service—teaching or assisting in substandard schools where children are destined for failure without special attention, for instance. Or volunteering in crime prevention programs in high-crime areas. Spending a year or two helping to rebuild this country’s crumbling infrastructure might be a possibility.

It might be necessary to stipulate a certain number of draftees for military service. In that case, the draft would have to be a system such as the lottery during the Vietnam War.



TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: biggovernment; draft
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To: Tar Oil

You’re wasting your breath, so to speak, on these wimps.


41 posted on 03/16/2011 11:51:53 AM PDT by Misterioso (The noble soul has reverence for itself. - Nietszche)
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To: chesley

Good point. Any “dirty work” that needs to be done by civilian volunteers should be done by prisoners instead.


42 posted on 03/16/2011 11:53:37 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Tar Oil
The point is to rid our country of invaders.

I have not gotten a ticket or been stopped by LEO in 31 years.

That is because I drive following the rules, and I don't go are looking like a Prep IE: Tattoos and Baggie pants.

I am not worried about LEO in my daily travels.

43 posted on 03/16/2011 11:56:09 AM PDT by troy McClure
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To: oh8eleven

In the modern military-technological environment 2-year enlistees are basically useless for almost every job.


44 posted on 03/16/2011 12:09:40 PM PDT by Strategerist (There is only so much stupidity one man can prevent - Andrew Marshall)
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To: Rufii
when the RATS had a super majority, they resurrected Charlie Rangel’s draft bill. It was an epic fail. I think Rangel even voted against it.

a draft I can take it or leave it. (I was drafted)

I wonder what would happen if an automatic draft enactment was added to the War powers Act ?

45 posted on 03/16/2011 12:10:26 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: Strategerist

Okay, make the requirement three years then. :)


46 posted on 03/16/2011 12:16:52 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Tax-chick

I don’t think we could afford to train up draftees to the current incredible standards our troops seem to be upholding anyways.
I mean, foot patrols above 7000 ft? With 70+ lbs. of weapons, equipment and body armor? Thats not a draftee - thats a hero!


47 posted on 03/16/2011 12:19:56 PM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Rufii

This sounds a back-door way for Obama to get his shock troops that serve the state.


48 posted on 03/16/2011 12:19:58 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: PGR88

Why is “giving all Americans a common experience” a good thing? My ancestors didn’t come here to join a “common experience”, they came seeking freedom to do things their own way - from worshiping God to making a living.

These ideas are always from liberal leftists who think 12 years of indoctrination isn’t enough, because too many parents counter-program their kids, and what you really need is 2 years where you’ve got them all to yourself...


49 posted on 03/16/2011 12:24:14 PM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB
Why is “giving all Americans a common experience” a good thing?

good point. My point was that, for better or worse, WWII for example, gave all men of that generation something in common. Certainly, gov't indoctrination isn't the way to do it.

50 posted on 03/16/2011 12:31:00 PM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: Tar Oil
His second greatest failing was that, despite his conservative credentials, he was far too willing to let big-government statists set domestic policy.

His domestic initiatives and accomplishments include:

On the domestic front, Nixon gave conservatives little to cheer about.
51 posted on 03/16/2011 12:35:30 PM PDT by Rufii
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To: Rufii

All should be drafted to work for the government. From each according to his abilities. To each according to his needs and I’ll tell you what your needs are. It’s time for the grey jumpsuits.


52 posted on 03/16/2011 12:36:42 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Tar Oil; oh8eleven
All people who earn an honest living are already serving America. The notion that only government service "really counts" is pure communism.

Amen! Preach on, brother! The Founding Fathers would agree with you.

53 posted on 03/16/2011 12:51:36 PM PDT by Rufii
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To: oh8eleven
I agree - minimum two years in the military or “Americorps” type service.
I would also require at least six months duty in a third world country.
That’ll teach the ungrateful SOBs what a great country America is.


Yeah, just what we need - more government control over our lives. Of course leftist ideological indoctrination will be a mandatory part of this Americorps Service. Then the suitably prepared Obama-Jungend will be sent out on such tasks as house-to-house searches for evil incandescent lightbulbs and whatever else the leftwing wackos come up with now that they have all this excess manpower to pursue their dreams.

Serving in the military? “Listen kid, you can volunteer for the Marines, spend six months in basic training and the rest of your service in Afghanistan living in dirt, or you can volunteer for Americorps and wear a nice clean uniform and sleep every night in your own bed. The pays the same in either case, but in Americorps you'll spend eight hours a day working on a computer, going through old data in order to identify people who posted on Free Republic. When you find one we pick him up and put him in one of the hard-labor reeducation camps, and you get a nice monetary bonus. Catch five, you become an ace, and get to meet personally with President Obama and her husband, former President Obama.”

Sounds fantastic. If you've got any other bright ideas, shut up and keep them to yourself.

55 posted on 03/16/2011 1:48:24 PM PDT by Cheburashka (Blade Runner was set in 2019. Except for the flying cars and replicants we're right on schedule.)
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To: Little Ray

I agree. We’re not going to get the results we’re presently getting from people who don’t want to be soldiers.

And how would you like to be, for example, a nursing home resident who’s being cared for by conscript government workers? Bad as things are now in many nursing homes, they could still be a lot worse.


56 posted on 03/16/2011 1:56:39 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Nadie me ama como Jesus.)
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To: Rufii

We’ve had involuntary military service in this country practically since the beginning.

Consider the Militia Act of 1792 which required military service of most males within a certain age range.

Consider the Federal Statute that places many within a certain age range in the unorganized militia even today.

Consider the various State statutes that place many within a certain age range in the unorganized militia even today.

Consider that the militia requirement if for decades, not just years.


57 posted on 03/16/2011 1:57:57 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Curs(ed be those who don't.)
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To: bill1952

Is that really what you think of our Viet Nam vets?


58 posted on 03/16/2011 3:28:50 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Cheburashka
If you've got any other bright ideas ...
It's amazing the number of cowards living in their parent's basement who post on FR.
Same amazement for the number of FR cop haters - who are usually the same as the aforementioned cowards.
Gen X losers.
59 posted on 03/16/2011 3:29:53 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Tax-chick
This was a crazy idea when Bill Buckley floated it, and it’s still nuts. We do not need a draft for the military, and schools should all be privatized, anyway. Staff inner-city schools with Marines, and those kids will learn!

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Agreed.

60 posted on 03/16/2011 3:31:55 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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