Posted on 03/14/2011 1:58:30 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration has conducted informal discussions with groups from both ends of the gun-policy spectrum, including law enforcement and gun-rights organizations, and is set to hold formal meetings as early as this week in an effort to chart out a set of new firearms policies, administration officials say.
Spearheaded by the Department of Justice, the talks were described by one individual involved in the discussions as a “feeling-out process.” With more official meetings set to begin shortly, they provide the clearest indication to date that the White House is readying a response to the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) and 19 others at Tucson in early January.
“As the president said, we should focus on sound, effective steps that will keep guns out of the hands of the criminals, fugitives, people with serious mental illness, and others who have no business possessing a gun and who are prohibited by laws on the books from owning a gun,” Justice Department spokesman Matthew Miller said. “We will be meeting with stakeholders on all sides of the issue to discuss how we can find sensible, intelligent ways to make the country safer.”
The goal is to finalize a set of policy changes, including, perhaps, legislation that could pass through a Congress hostile to abridgments of Second Amendment rights. The last serious bite at the apple occurred following the shootings at Virginia Tech in April 2007.
In a Sunday op-ed for the Arizona Daily Star, President Barack Obama called for a three-pronged approach: enforcing the laws already on the books, including the National Instant Criminal Background Check System; pushing for greater state-to-state coordination; and expediting background checks and the release of relevant data.
“It was a promising sign that the president understands that 86 percent of the public, including around 80 percent of gun owners, think that a simple background check for every purchase includes next to zero burden for law-abiding citizens and can save countless live,” said Mark Glaze, the executive director of the coalition of Mayors Against Illegal Guns (MAIG).
The contours laid out in the op-ed are similar to the plan currently being pushed by MAIG and Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.). Schumer, who has also been in touch with DOJ officials, held a press conference with New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg several weeks ago announcing plans to beef up the national background-check system, including eliminating a loophole that allows individuals to buy firearms at gun shows without submitting to a background check.
Though official talks have not yet begun, the Obama administration is expected to aim mostly at such low-hanging fruit, leaving issues like the legality of the high-capacity magazine -- which allows even pistols to fire more than 30 shots without reloading, and was used in the Tucson shootings in January -- to remain unaddressed for the time being. The principal debate, then, will likely center around the application of background-check standards to private dealers.
“They have been meeting with us and also with law enforcement groups and industry,” one gun-control advocate said of the administration. “This is what the White House does when they want to put a serious legislative apparatus together ... The game now becomes effectively demonstrating, in a way that is meaningful, what we know is the overwhelming support for universal background checks.”
This country isn't a Fed Agency. We have LAWS, not "Policies."
Someone text the Community Organizer and explain the difference, but use small words. He isn't that bright.
This country isn't a Fed Agency. We have LAWS, not "Policies."
Someone text the Community Organizer and explain the difference, but use small words. He isn't that bright.
So it begins. Keep your powder dry.
REALLY???? With all that is going on in the world that he should be attending to (instead of playing golf), THIS is what he wants to put energy and resources into????
Ironic how they instruct ATF to look the other way while AK’s stream south and then we try to apprehend with bean bags.
I would only agree to any of this if they agree to only try to enforce any of this with bean bags...LOL
Gee this won’t get abused by these clowns will it?
Barry... you moron... there are laws on the books that are being broken BECAUSE THEY ARE CRIMINALS!
What good is your silly little focus group going to do?
Make gun owners criminals via tyranny of the pen and that will magically make everything better in the mind of a liberal.
An effort to take away the private sale of firearms??:
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/03/they-really-think-they-can-get-away.html
Though official talks have not yet begun, the Obama administration is expected to aim mostly at such low-hanging fruit, leaving issues like the legality of the high-capacity magazine... to remain unaddressed for the time being.
I got news for you liberty-raping, liberal fascist jackboots - it doesn't matter whether you address it or not, because we'll own what we damn well please. You can shove AWB II and firearm registration up your ass. Molon Labe, you SOB's.
Rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
Odumbo is over.
Yes. Closing the so-called "gun show" loophole, that permits unsupervised transfer of firearms between citizen/residents. The idea being to obtain a back-door registry, for future confiscation, a generation or two in the future.
Yes thus it is always with tyrants
If the Republicans go along with this they deserve to loose in 2012, this is nothing but the next step in universal gun registration which will then lead eventually to gun confiscation. I expect the O to try doing this using an executive order if he can’t get congress to go along.
Guess Giffords may be making an appearance soon...The “O” seems to be stting the stage for her being shown to drive sympathy much like Brady.
All for “common sense” gun laws/sarc.
Including around 80 percent of gun owners, think that a simple background check for every purchase includes next to zero burden for law-abiding citizens and can save countless live,” said Mark Glaze, the executive director of the coalition of Mayors Against Illegal Guns (MAIG).
Based on what fraudulent poll data?
Consider the source – sounds like Prime Grade A Bull Cookies!!
which allows even pistols to fire more than 30 shots without reloading,
Make no mistake, that’s the number they like to toss out but in reality they want to reduce that to 10 rounds, then 5 then..
Here is their operational outline:
Step 1: All Transactions have to go through the Federal system
Step 2: All Transactions are recorded and a registration system initialized.
Step 3: All guns are banned and confiscated.
Each step will have to be preceded by a Crisis to get at least some on board for the next incremental and “Commonsense” step in the process.
Close the “gun show loophole?” I wish someone would close the “birth certificate loophole.”
We did, but it’s not reaching discovery in any court proceeding with Zero’s top law firms in the way.
Zero was born at Coast Provincial General Hospital in Mombasa, modern day Kenya. He has admitted such as Senator and previously; we have witnesses with first hand knowledge with signed affadavits presented in court. Bet on it.
What evidence?
A) The registered copy of Zero’s birth certificate, Mombasa, Kenya:
http://jdlong.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/possiblebhokenyanbirthcertificate1.jpg
Dated Feb 17, 1964. Why is the date significant?
It fits in with the time line for the Obama Sr./Stanley Ann Dunham divorce proceedings from Jan 20-March 20, 1964. The judge must know who parents are before he awards child support/custody and that is disclosed by a birth certificate. It is required by Hawaiian law, like many jurisdictions dealing with this matter.
Just so happens these divorce papers skip page 11 with a missing page in back, which would have been said birth certificate:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/18130289/Obama-1964-Divorce-Papers-13-Pages-Missing-Pg-11
Scrubbed from the record. Barry’s minions have been busy.
This registered birth certificate copy has been presented in court under oath. It has real stamps and signatures of real people. In addition we have excellent PROVENANCE of it being filed and requested in a previous court proceeding LONG BEFORE THE ISSUE OF OBAMA’S NATURAL BORN CITIZENSHIP.
There is no provenance of any document presented by Obama in court or otherwise. No birth certificate; not even his online short form has been filed with evidentiary certificate under oath in any court proceeding. Which is because it’s a forgery.
There’s another one: the one collected by Smith.
I think it’s possible that both the Smith BC and this one you’ve posted are valid.
Ultimatelly, a court (other than the court of public opinion) needs to rule on Obama’s eligibility.
There's the money shot right there. It is the main reason why many took EVERY advantage of the gun-buying good times (such as they were) to prepare to fight these people...excess magazine capacity? You betcha! "Assault Weapons?" You betcha!......more than you can personally use? You betcha! You gots neighbors who'll need them....Ammo? You betcha!.....
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