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Obama’s latest ‘gun control’ proposal will not close ‘Gunwalker loophole
Gun Rights Examiner ^ | March 14, 2011 | David Codrea

Posted on 03/14/2011 8:31:24 AM PDT by Voice of Reason88

“We must seek agreement on gun reforms,” a guest editorial in the Arizona Daily Star by President Barack Obama declares. Snip “I'm willing to bet,” he says, “that responsible, law-abiding gun owners agree that we should be able to keep an irresponsible, law-breaking few - dangerous criminals and fugitives, for example - from getting their hands on a gun in the first place.” If by that he means take people who have been adjudicated menaces to society and segregating them from those they would harm, not many would argue.

But that’s not what he means.

He wants to end private transfers.

He wants to require everyone in the country, regardless of state laws, to go through the federal system. As in mandate. As in force. As in "or else."

How about a situation where responsible sellers reported suspicious sales but were instructed by the administration’s enforcers to allow them to proceed anyway? Are we serious about that?

“Clearly, there's more we can do to prevent gun violence,” the president opines. “But I want this to at least be the beginning of a new discussion on how we can keep America safe for all our people.”

Before we begin a new discussion, Mr. President, how about we finish one that’s already underway?

What do you know about “Project Gunwalker,” when did you find out about it, and what direction have you given Attorney General Holder, DHS Secretary Napolitano and Secretary of State Clinton? Don’t you think--before considering anything new--we ought to first close the “Gunwalker loophole” by having complete and open hearings into all of the allegations to identify who in your administration did what, and how high up culpability goes?

You know, "to prevent gun violence"? Because "clearly, there's more we can do."

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Others have asked this, so I’ll ask it too: Did the people the Government had walking guns down to Mexico undergo a Background check?
1 posted on 03/14/2011 8:31:34 AM PDT by Voice of Reason88
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To: Voice of Reason88
Every one of them.

And I'd bet the answer from the NICS operator was ..."This transaction requires further review. You will now be transferred to a specialist for further investigation."

2 posted on 03/14/2011 8:36:05 AM PDT by Wizdum (Wisdom is what you gain when things go wrong.)
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To: Voice of Reason88
I'm sorry, but as a 2nd Amendment purist, I think ALL Federal background checks are unconstitutional. It's actions that should be punished, not the mere possessions of deadly instruments. We got by just fine from 1782 to 1968 without federal background checks for guns. It's just institutionalized hoplophobia.

So, do I support MORE Brady-style background checks? NO.

3 posted on 03/14/2011 8:45:29 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: Voice of Reason88

Oama is right in the middle of the “Gunwalker” scheme, and it’s purpose was to do justas he is doing. The purpose is to nullify our 2nd, Amendment rights.


4 posted on 03/14/2011 9:03:08 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: backwoods-engineer
I meant that as a rhetorical question – as you said:

We got by just fine from 1782 to 1968 without federal background checks for guns. It's just institutionalized hoplophobia.

Agreed on both points.

Moreover, as someone else pointed out around here, If the “Background Check” is supposed to be about the person, Why do they need information about the gun being purchased?

If the transaction is above-board, then the gun being purchased should be “Federally approved” in as sense.

If they only thing they are seemingly concerned with is the purchaser, then the particular gun they are purchasing should be irrelevant.

But that isn’t the case, is it? Clearly, they want as much information about the transaction that they can get so that down the road they can move onto the next step: Registration.

5 posted on 03/14/2011 9:15:22 AM PDT by Voice of Reason88 ( Freedom is never lost all at once - Edmund Burke)
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To: Voice of Reason88

“responsible, law-abiding gun owners agree that we should be able to keep an irresponsible, law-breaking few - dangerous criminals and fugitives, for example - from getting their hands on a gun in the first place”

Beat hell out of that strawman, Barry, just keep your mitts off my guns.


6 posted on 03/14/2011 9:28:59 AM PDT by tumblindice (Me? Just stirrin' the pot)
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To: tumblindice
Does Barrack the Magnificent know that criminals and fugitives are law-breakers and that they won’t follow the law no matter what he does?
7 posted on 03/14/2011 9:39:31 AM PDT by Voice of Reason88 ( Freedom is never lost all at once - Edmund Burke)
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To: Voice of Reason88

He wants to require everyone in the country, regardless of state laws, to go through the federal system. As in mandate. As in force. As in "or else."



FUBO



You liberal fascist jackboots can go pound sand.

8 posted on 03/14/2011 9:52:11 AM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Voice of Reason88
Does Barrack the Magnificent know that criminals and fugitives are law-breakers and that they won’t follow the law no matter what he does?

Of course.

This gun control crap isn't about them. It's always about disarming the general populace.

9 posted on 03/14/2011 12:57:13 PM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: SIDENET

Ostensibly, it’s supposed to be about:

**Cue violins**

Saving the children, reducing crime and getting “Guns off the Street” and all manner of happy horse hockey like that – the results show otherwise, but when have the facts mattered to the Leftists?

It’s sort of akin to what they’re doing to the economy – it’s hard to believe anyone can be that unintelligent to think that what they are doing will work and that it won’t run the place into the ground.

It’s the same thing with all their little schemes at “Commonsense” gun grabbing – they can’t be dumb enough to think that it will work, but that’s what they pretend, so sometimes it’s fun to point out how ridiculous their ideas have become.

The bottom line is as you said: disarming the general populace, nothing more, nothing less.


10 posted on 03/14/2011 1:24:26 PM PDT by Voice of Reason88 ( Freedom is never lost all at once - Edmund Burke)
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Clearly, they want as much information about the transaction that they can get so that down the road they can move onto the next step: Registration.

They were archiving NICS data under Clinton. They already have registration, even though they are supposed to destroy the query data. Anyone who does not think so is mistaken.

The BATFE has proven itself to be a rogue agency, as have the DOJ (Think Janet Reno and Waco, Holder and 'crackergate') and others. Some serious house cleaning is in order, and at least one agency should be done away with.

11 posted on 03/15/2011 2:09:32 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

“We got by just fine from 1782 to 1968”

Actually, we did not have federal background checks for guns until 1994. It is a failed system. We should eliminate it.


12 posted on 03/15/2011 8:07:23 AM PDT by marktwain
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