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Leftists Continue to Push the Myth of the Pedophile Orientation
RedState ^ | March 3, 2011 | Rob Taylor

Posted on 03/03/2011 4:15:43 PM PST by TheHawksNest

An expert witness from the University of Montreal made this astonishing claim in front of a parliamentary committee debating a bill that would increase Canada’s punishment of pedophiles:

“Pedophiles are not simply people who commit a small offence from time to time but rather are grappling with what is equivalent to a sexual orientation just like another individual may be grappling with heterosexuality or even homosexuality,” emphasized Van Gijseghem.

“True pedophiles have an exclusive preference for children, which is the same as having a sexual orientation. You cannot change this person’s sexual orientation.” He added, however: “He may however remain abstinent.”

This claim is astonishing because Dr. Hubert Van Gigjseghem portrays himself as an expert in “extra-familial sexual abuse” and forensic psychology, yet he appears completely unaware of the actual classifications of child molesters. Few child abusers are exclusively attracted to children and those who are generally fall into the either the “mysoped” category - sadists who seek to harm children for sexual gratification - or the “fixated” child molesters whose interest in children is a symptom of pathological immaturity.

The vast majority of so-called pedophiles are “situational” offenders. These people have no real interest in children but for a variety of reasons prey on them for sexual gratification, mainly because children are easier victims to manipulate and control.

Leftists have long accepted the “orientation” argument from pedophiles, partly driven by their blind acceptance of the fraudulent Alfred Kinsey reports that were used to normalize adults molesting children and partly influenced by the “pro-choice” feminist culture which devalues children and sees them as objects that shouldn’t be allowed to get in the way of an adult’s interests. But increasingly, people on the right, especially libertarians, have also accepted this view of child sexual exploitation as an “orientation.”

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1 posted on 03/03/2011 4:15:46 PM PST by TheHawksNest
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To: TheHawksNest

Shoot them then...they’re cured.


2 posted on 03/03/2011 4:18:12 PM PST by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: All

What if your sexual preference is shooting pedophiles between the eyes with a glock, is that an acceptable lifestyle choice?


3 posted on 03/03/2011 4:21:14 PM PST by Maverick68
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To: TheHawksNest

People who sexually prey on children are suffering from not enough hot lead in their brain.


4 posted on 03/03/2011 4:24:35 PM PST by RingerSIX (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccine that they offer down at our Church.)
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To: TheHawksNest
I have no problem believing pedophiles are sexually oriented to want sex with children. That just happens to be a criminal orientation with severe penalties for acting on that orientation.

Sucks to be them.

5 posted on 03/03/2011 4:26:16 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Obama. Chauncey Gardiner without the homburg.)
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To: TheHawksNest; wagglebee; little jeremiah; DJ MacWoW
“True pedophiles have an exclusive preference for children, which is the same as having a sexual orientation. You cannot change this person’s sexual orientation.” He added, however: “He may however remain abstinent.”

The article descended into brain dead moon-battery at this point.

It doesn't damage a child one whit less if the pervert rapes children exclusively or also has sex with adults.

Yes homosexuality is bad. Yes homosexual pedophiles tend to go after dozens or often hundreds of victims.

None the less, a seven year old girl raped by her uncle or older brother or step-dad or mommy's boyfriend is just as damaged. Not even if she is the only victim the creep ever has. That is in no way a lesser crime and any other pervert who tries to discount that sort of thing from the statistics (as the author of this crappy piece undeniably did) is deserving of ridicule.

Pedophilia is a bad thing. Homosexuality is a bad thing. Neither one should be discounted as a bad thing when the other is missing.

You can expect that I will oppose both of those bad things, and will not fall prey to any divide and conquer strategy conceived to reduce opposition to one or the other. Both of them are wrong all the time.

Moral absolutes ping

6 posted on 03/03/2011 4:34:44 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: TheHawksNest
“True pedophiles have an exclusive preference for children, which is the same as having a sexual orientation. You cannot change this person’s sexual orientation.” He added, however: “He may however remain abstinent.”

I agree. If they cannot remain abstinent, hang them.

7 posted on 03/03/2011 4:37:02 PM PST by Uncle Miltie ("And did you exchange a walk on part in a war, for a lead role in a cage?")
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To: Uncle Miltie

This pedophile thing is part of the Left’s strategy to make people believe that there is no free will, at all. Don’t laugh; some people really think that.


8 posted on 03/03/2011 4:53:14 PM PST by maro (One term is enough)
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To: TheHawksNest

The logic—that it is an orientation—is correct. It is learned. People are not born with a desire to rape children....usually they are sodomized as children.

It is why the sodomized boys in the homosexual society of Afghanistan dream of one day owning a stable of boys who they can sodomize. Homosexuality is unnatural, just as pederasty. Both are caused because of environmental interference with their sexual identity formation.

The reason we have Sex Ed in schools is to break down the morality of children—remove morality from the sex act— and introduce them to ideas that they were never designed to have at 5 and 6— such as homosexual unions......which they would never have if not taught it.

It is the design of the Homosexual movement founded by Hays to have all restictions on sex removed so they have access to boys. He was molested as a boy and they like to recreate that “thrill” that was elicited when their bodies were manipulated. Their idea of utopia is Sodom and Gomorrah....Read the Bible and glimpse the absolute ugliness of that type of society. Do not allow homosexuality to be “normalized” in your school system and in the media you watch....it removes our country from its very foundations of Natural Law Theory and God’s Laws. We will be like Russia and the Nazis....where there is no God, the void is always filled with evil.


9 posted on 03/03/2011 5:00:20 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: TheHawksNest

The end result of the homosexual agenda has ALWAYS been sex with children.

The agenda was never about gay marriage, DADT, or homosexual rights. These issues are the trojan horse to break down values so they can have our children.


10 posted on 03/03/2011 5:01:49 PM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: MrEdd
This is the classic leftist trope: the Hegelian dialectic. Loosely rendered, it is used to frame an argument or a position in terms of thesis, antithesis, and finally synthesis. Here's how it is done: take the opposite ends of of a position, take them to extremes if necessary (another logical fallacy) and with the implicit and deliberately erroneous assumption that they are equally valid (another piece of sleight of hand). Then spin the compromise or synthesis between the two in such a manner as to 'move the goal posts' to favor your argument. And to use the new point of departure as a way render the outcomes of subsequent arguments even farther to the left.

Taken in that light, you'll soon recognize 'moral equivalency' and 'let's compromise' arguments as the bastard idiot children of Hegelian triangulation. Call bullshit on it as soon as you hear it. Don't accept the premise that 'all we're doing is arriving at consensus' or a compromise.

12 posted on 03/03/2011 5:04:41 PM PST by Noumenon ("We should forgive our enemies, but not before they are hanged.")
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To: TheHawksNest

One of the things that really bugs me is the way the leftists pile onto the Catholic Church regarding pedophile priests when the fact of the situation is that practically every one of them is a homosexual. Nobody comments on how the homosexual community has infiltrated that church so they can prey on little boys.


13 posted on 03/03/2011 5:19:14 PM PST by chopperman
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To: chopperman

Why do so few speak out in these terms? I’m one Protestant that agrees with you, I’ve long thought your seminaries were deliberately infiltrated.


14 posted on 03/03/2011 5:23:20 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: TheHawksNest

The only “orientation” pervs have is to their sin of choice.


15 posted on 03/03/2011 5:48:07 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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Please read savagesusie's comment. Says it better than I could.

16 posted on 03/03/2011 6:23:15 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

It is what I have always known....I think instinctually, because I had four boys and one girl and was a very involved mother and took child development and psychology for fun.

I was very aware of the messages the popular culture was trying to indoctrinate into the children....the “values clarification” to undermine moral absolutes and Christian ethics...those ethics which create people of character and honor.

As the Bible says, those who destroy the innocence of children are the most heinous of all...they are purely evil and worship Satan.


17 posted on 03/03/2011 6:35:09 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: little jeremiah

the sickest people on this planet are people who touch kids and the rapists.
I have nothing but disgust and could not even write on here what I really think of them.

If one lefty scruffy smell urchin ever tried to tell me that this is normal then I would not have a problem getting into trouble


18 posted on 03/03/2011 6:38:22 PM PST by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: chopperman

It is the “elephant in the room” for the Catholic Church. I have been on them to acknowledge the “homosexuality” of this egregious sin. It is a deliberate infiltration by homosexuals to destroy Christianity and make the Bible into “hate speech” and eliminate it from our “enlightened” culture.

Progressive? No....as the Pope has said....it is regressive—back to the Baal days of paganism/atheism and whenever you have an homosexual society, pederasty is a must...you have to train the boys like they are doing presently in Afghanistan and have done in ancient Greece and Rome and fraternity of Freemasonry. They visualize a Brave New World, not designed by God (Natural Law) but remade in the design of elite (pedophile) men where pederasty is encouraged.


19 posted on 03/03/2011 6:43:22 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: RegulatorCountry

They were infiltrated by homosexuals to destroy Christianity and make the Bible “hate speech”. That is the purpose of Postmodern German philosophy which engulfed Europe in the early 20th century because of the Frankfurt school and brought to the US by Fabian Socialists and put into our schools by Dewey—father of our education system.

They kicked out the McGuffey Readers which was filled with reference to God and the Lord and how we respect all life, etc. and they inserted their social sciences and took out Classical knowledge and inserted cognitive dissonance based on Pavlov and Skinner.

They have used media to break down—ridicule Christian ethics—make religion seem stupid and bigoted —and glorify all perversion and dysfunction that destroys relationships. Creates divisions between all groups-=to destroy the family so children are emotionally vulnerable and susceptible to being seduced into whatever.

McCarthy was correct but the communists destroyed and ridiculed him—marginalized him so that others who would dare expose the infiltration would keep their mouths shut. They had control of the media and universities and policy making positions in government. The Russians knew what they were talking about when they said we would sell them the rope to hang us. and when they said they would bury us. They had their goons in place starting in the 1920’s.

The two pillars to take down society—their targets—Christianity and family.


20 posted on 03/03/2011 6:55:05 PM PST by savagesusie
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