Posted on 02/19/2011 8:23:26 AM PST by FredJake
Dictionary.com defines insurrection as "an act or instance of rising in revolt, rebellion, or resistance against civil authority or an established government."
"Insurrection" aptly defines what is happening in Wisconsin.
Worse yet, the chief executive officer of the nation - President Obama - appears to tacitly approve of the insurrection. His campaign arm - Organizing for America, and the Democratic National Committee - are involved in planning and supporting the insurrection, even going so far as to bus protesters in an effort to undermine the lawful government of that state.
Thousands of protesters - many carrying signs comparing Governor Scott Walker to Adolf Hitler - stormed the Capitol in an effort to shut down the legislature. This is not a mere redress of grievance; this is outright revolt.
All 14 Senate Democrats have fled to parts unknown to prevent a vote on a bill meant to keep the state solvent.
The Wall Street Journal reports that the AWOL Democrats plan to remain out of the state until the governor caves in to their demands:
"When we go back is ultimately up to the governor's willingness to sit down and talk about this and come up with some sort of resolution," said Sen. Jon Erpenbach, who fled with 13 colleagues on Thursday to deprive Republicans of the needed quorum to pass the measure. He spoke by phone from a Chicago hotel, where he planned to stay Friday night.
But Governor Walker has had enough of the Democrats antics. According to a post at Hot Air, the Governor is playing hardball with the Senators:
“The protesters have every right to have their voices heard, but I’m not going to be intimidated into thinking I should ignore the voices of the five-and-a-half million taxpayers,” said Republican Gov. Scott Walker…
(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...
“I bet they’ll be outgunned.”
Community organizers and SEIU are paid soldiers. Protesting is their job. Actual people have real jobs and responsibilities. Us actual people don’t grab our tea-party signs and rush down to counter-protest against thugs who will be backed up by union police and other government paid workers with guns, riot gear and gas.
Ordinary people expect their elected representatives to do their job so that ordinary people can continue to provide for their families. So, no, they won’t be outgunned until they actually resort to guns and paramilitary force. But these people, except for the SEIU purple-shirts, aren’t really soldiers and probably don’t have guns.
The scary part of this is the President of the United States urging people to violence. Remember him saying, “Get into their faces and yell?” That’s assault. We all know where assault leads.
For the past 30+/- years or so, however, most states have had a Professional Educators' Association which, as part of its package, offers insurance benefits.
As a result, teachers can choose to join or not join the national union.
Those whose personal views do not support the Far Left agenda of the Democrats do not have to belong. There needs to be a national publicity campaign to make this fact known.
“...tacitly approve...” I think not. He approved and encouraged!
Sadly in TExas the GOP is filled with RINOs almost as bad as the union scum in Wisconsin. Perry, Kay Bailey and COrnyn - open border vermin.
So, what you're saying is that for the most part, they're mercenaries.
Whereas people on our side are, essentially, volunteers.
History reveals that all other things being equal, the advantage is with the volunteers, I believe.
Of course if Obama had been President then, he wouldn't have sympathized with the whiskey rebels, since they were up in arms against paying a tax.
“History reveals that all other things being equal, the advantage is with the volunteers, I believe.”
In an actual shooting war, yes. But what’s happening here is their side is intimidating our public officials; showing up outside the official’s homes and threatening them. The volunteers would need to be on-hand in all instances to stop our elected officials from feeling threatened. The volunteers all have day jobs.
Now, if Glen Beck or Rush Limbaugh came up with a plan and got somebody to provide an information clearing house, we could have five concealed carry license holders to protect every Republican senator. We could put 3 to 1 in the street to counter-protest. But failing that leadership, which on their side is the union boss, we simply aren’t organized to counter their tactics. Hence the need for counter-insurgency community organizers. (CICO.)
They’ve got “Rules for Radicals.”
We’ve got Petraeus’ Counterinsurgency manual.
We’ll see which one is more effective . . .
Listening to Rush on Friday, he very slowly and deliberately gave the union members in Madison a subtle warning with the following paraphrased comment: Think twice before engaging in mob action....................OUR mob is MUCH LARGER........
Very seldom have I heard Rush make so 'forceful' a statement. He's become more confrontational since his marriage and I like the 'NEW RUSH' :-)
That's exactly what it is. Unions are the mob's "protection service".
>>“Looks to me like the libs want all-out civil war. “
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>I bet they’ll be outgunned.
You’re overlooking one [maybe two] important factor[s]: the police.
The police-forces of this nation have been increasing their training, their equipment, and their will to use against the general public.
The police WILL be used against any “riots” or “insurrections.”
The other possible factor is the military. The Constitution says that there shouldn’t be any appropriation of monies for an army exceeding two years, Congress however has made it a forgone conclusion [based on their funding of the army continuously since before I was born] and thereby defeated the intention of that limitation. {Indeed, prior to WWII America did *not* have a standing/regular Army; the troops you see in “old west” movies were drawn from the States and funded basically by-commission (for a specific task) by the Congress.} There are several dangers of an active/regular Army: 1) they bear little allegiance to the people-as-a-whole when compared to their controlling agency [the government] (this is what the Chinese did for the Tienanmen Square incident; they called in troops from a far district in china to quash the protesters — I’m not too sure but I think they had to do that because the more local troops refused to move in.) 2) it removes from the people the sense that they are actually responsible for the defense of their nation (”Oh the Army will take care of any invasion!” compared to the state of affairs in AZ or CA) and 3) having a regular army makes it tempting to use it by those in political power — indeed one could argue that *NOT* using it is a waste of money — contrasted to ALWAYS having to draw, equip/arm, and train people every time you needed to use the Army. {In fact, the trial of LTC Lakin raises some interesting questions regarding military orders: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-vetscor/2638933/posts }
>Impeaching them does no good. They need a 2/3 majority for that.
The Governor has the power to hold elections for vacant seats:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2676122/posts
They are not there so the seats *ARE* [technically] vacant, no?
Such a nice phrase in the article “former Senator Russ Feingold”.
Walker should file missing persons reports. How long until a missing person can be declared legally dead?
Which is why I believe that the counter protests of the Tea Party are a bad move right now. Would have been better to simply let the Dems fall on their own swords without our help.
Being Dems, they'll just turn around and claim that the "racist", "anti-worker" Tea Party started the fight.
You call it, I make it happen.
Here's your CWII Ping. as the custom dictates whenever a thread has one or more references to what may, sadly, be inevitable, we the keepers of the CWII ping list alert those who have requested it.
Your posting, as well as those it is responding to, qualifies!
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Of course sometimes this is merely a figure of speech, such as "The Tea Parties are fighting a civil war for the heart of the GOP". This would not merit a CWII ping.
On the other hand someone saying something like "The events in California are reminiscent of what happened in Yugoslavia in the period proceeding the Civil War" would merit a ping.
FR rules do not permit advocating for the overthrow of the Republic, and I am not aware of anyone doing so on the list. Still many do see that as the political climate worsens we may be heading in a direction that makes such a conflict all but inevitable, particularly if other avenues for resolving our differences are taken away. Such as widespread vote fraud by leftists making elections meaningless, or a small cadre of judges over-ruling all attempts to end destructive policies over the clear will of the people.
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>Walker should file missing persons reports. How long until a missing person can be declared legally dead?
Something like 5 or 7 years, maybe even a decade, IIRC.
What would you know about the Texas GOP? You're not even an American. Tend to your own back yard and leave Texas to us Texans.
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