Posted on 12/02/2010 11:44:19 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
This isnt really aimed at the troops, I think. Rather, he and Gates have simply reached the end of their respective ropes with McCains endless backpedaling on dont ask, dont tell. Mavericks chief concern at todays hearing was that servicemen will quit in droves if forced to serve alongside gays in combat. Mullens reply: Oh well.
Should repeal occur, some soldiers and Marines may want separate shower facilities. Some may ask for different berthing. Some may even quit the service, Mullen said. Well deal with that.
We treat each other with respect or we find another place to work. Period, he said
Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., one of the biggest critics of changing current policy, noted that the study of U.S. troops found that combat forces were much more concerned about serving alongside gay members than the military population as a whole and as many as 32 percent of Marines said they would leave the service earlier than planned rather than remain alongside gay troops
Saying he expects less turbulence, even in the combat arms world, than some would predict, Mullen added, In fact, it may be the combat arms community that proves the most effective at managing this change, disciplined as they are. Its not only because our young ones are more tolerant. Its because theyve got far more important things to worry about.
As youre about to see, Gatess annoyance with the implications of Mavericks logic was palpable. Mullen may be onto something too in thinking that, notwithstanding the objections of combat troops, wartime conditions might end up making integration easier, not harder. See, for instance, this chronology of military desegregation at the Truman Library. Things start slowly with studies being conducted after World War II, then Truman gives the order to desegregate in 1948. Not until the Korean War, however, do desegregation efforts really rev up as black recruits are rushed in to help reinforce white units suffering casualties. Remember also that, according to the Pentagons study, only 15 percent of gay troops surveyed this year said theyd reveal their orientation to everyone in their unit, so even if some combat troops are willing to retire early to avoid gay colleagues, many of them wont ever know for sure that theyre serving alongside gays. Finally, note that the survey was conducted with the respondents knowing full well that the results would shape policy. If youre not real keen on having gays in your unit but not so unhappy about it that youd quit, you might be tempted to say that you would simply to throw a little fear into the brass and influence the final decision. Guess well find out the hard way who was exaggerating and who wasnt, huh?
(VIDEO AT LINK)
Those of minority ancestry should be insulted.
Homosexuality is a *BEHAVIOR*, Ancestry is *NOT*!
Mullen lives in a beautiful mansion in a well-secured complex near the Lincoln Memorial where a gay would be shot trying to enter the grounds, let alone share the same bedroom.
Just more reason we must crush the dems in 2012. Take no prisoners. THE ONLY REASON TO REACH ACROSS THE AISLE SHOULD BE TO GRAB A DEM BY THE NECK AND THROW THEM OUT IN 2012. PERIOD.
This attitude ignores that fact that most Christians consider homosexuality to be sinful. The military wants people with high morals, but then orders them to forget their morals if they want to remain in the service. Is the military opening the door to immediate honorable discharges if someone does not want to serve with practicing homosexuals? I suspect that the military believes that this will not hurt recruitment or retention.
Respectfully Sir “Pound Sand”. I do not intend to re-enlist.
Very stupid remark by an obviously very stupid man.
I have to disagree. My suspicion is that, while they know that it will hurt both, they can't/won't admit it. I also suspect that they plan to cover it up when it does happen.
Me to Joint Chiefs: If you want to serve with gays, quit.
Oh noes, that’d send them into a right snit... wouldn’t it?
O and his fellow travelers in and out of the military are talking to the troops as if this is a given. They are moving in this direction. The way they are doing it is a violation of the UCMJ. They are already getting military leaders to conform to something that is currently illegal under the UCMJ.
The rules and laws of the U.S. Military are an enumerated power of the U.S. Congress. O is circumventing the U.S. Constitution, his responsibilities as Commander-In-Chief and the U.S. Congress...........
What ever happened to the uniform code of conduct?
I wonder what kind of military we would have if most of the straight guys left/didn’t re-enlist and we were stuck with predominantly gay troops. How safe would you feel? I’ll be honest and say I don’t personally know any gay men (that I know of) and I’m just randomly thinking a lot of them are the limp wrist variety.
the gays would be having a blast & throwing hissy fits because the General didn’t like their new uniform designs
AMEN! couldn’t his comment be construed as treasonous?
I don’t think they are allowed to quit you jackhammers. It’s a crime. Desertion.
Those who object the most (Combat Arms) are apt to be those who will not re-enlist and the "Support" personnel will grow or remain stable
What does that augur for our "Fighting Capabilities" in the near future?
Not good, IMHO!
Mullen is a moron and his Big Sis-like response ("Don't like the TSA Gate-Rape, don't fly") shows his ignorance as well as his complete PC/Multicultural acceptance and willingness to (at least, perhaps) destroy or weaken the Worlds best/mightiest Military--at a precarious time, when we need every advantage possible, not only to remain safe and free but to help protect the rest of the civilized world.
A Nam Vet!
The unfit President has his “YES” men in the Pentagon happy to be sodomized by one as charismatic and powerful as BO
Even as Mullen—and Gates have made manifest their utter CONTEMPT for our men and women in uniform—and have rushed to do the pleasure of this evil President-perfecting his tyranny.
Even as Marx and Lenin could not have done to the USSR what was done without the support of lesser men.so too BO has had his minions. Mullen and Gates and their kine will go to
their graves p —ing all over themselves because they believe they acted rightly but were misunderstood by those they HATE.
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