Why Pelosi and Germond Signed a Different Certificate of Nomination for Hawaii
Canada Free Press broke a story showing that Nancy Pelosi and Alice Travers Germond , as representatives of the Democratic National Committee, had signed one Certificate of Nomination for Obama and Biden that was sent to 49 states, and another that was sent only to Hawaii. Only the certificate sent to Hawaii included a statement that Obama and Biden were Constitutionally qualified to serve as President and Vice-President.
That certificate of nomination for Hawaii is the ONLY statement in this nation signed by somebody besides Obama which claims that Obama is Constitutionally eligible to be President. Contrary to arguments that Congress certified Obama’s eligibility when they certified the results of the electoral vote, neither representatives of Congress nor any Secretary of State has signed a legal document saying that Obama is eligible. This one oath by Pelosi and Germond is the only legal claim that Obama’s eligibility was verified.
And there is a huge story about how this particular certificate came to be, which the House Ethics Committee, every state Attorney General, and the public at large need to know.
First off, they need to know that the Hawaii Department of Health has confirmed that neither Pelosi nor Germond, nor any leader of either the Democratic National Committee or the Hawaii Democratic Party, has ever even asked to see Obama’s birth certificate. So Pelosi and Germond did not sign this document because they saw a certified copy from the HDOH office. And in fact, if they had seen anything from the HDOH office they would have known his Hawaii birth certificate has been amended and has no legal value.
It’s been removed from the web, but shortly after CFP published their original article about the Certificates of Nomination, somebody claiming to represent the DNC stated on a discussion board that the DNC relies on the state parties to verify Constitutional eligibility for candidates, so the oath by Pelosi and Germond would just confirm that the state democratic parties had confirmed the Constitutional eligibility of the candidates.
But this is where the argument totally falls apart, because the Hawaii Democratic Party actually ignored their protocols in 2008 in order to specifically NOT certify Obama’s eligibility as they had done for candidates in the past. IOW, if Pelosi based her decision to certify on whether the state party would confirm eligibility, then she had a duty to NOT certify Obama’s eligibility, because the democratic party of the state supposedly holding Obama’s birth certificate REFUSED TO CERTIFY Obama’s eligibility.
I requested and received from the Hawaii Dept of Elections the certificates of nomination from both the DNC and Hawaii Democratic Party (HDP). I was told their records only go as far back as 2000. In 2000 and 2004 the HDP waited until about a month after the National Convention and then signed and hand-delivered to the Hawaii Elections Office their certification that the candidates 1) were chosen by both the state and national parties and 2) were Constitutionally eligible to be President and VP. That was the HDP’s standard procedure, fulfilling both of Hawaii’s 2 requirements for placement on the ballot. (I will upload those documents as soon as I can get my husband to scan them.)
In 2008 the HDP signed their certification – with the Constitutional eligibility language removed – at the National Convention, on the day BEFORE Pelosi and Germond signed the DNC certificate. They then apparently gave their HDP certificate to DNC Attorney Joseph Sandler, who then had a special certificate created and signed by Pelosi and Germond just for Hawaii (since the HDP refused to certify eligibility) and then sent both certifications, with his own letter of transmittal, to the Hawaii Elections Office.
So instead of acting independently a month after the National Convention and confirming Constitutional eligibility as in the past, the HDP acted before the Convention to take out the eligibility language from their standard certificate, signed it, and gave it to Joe Sandler before Pelosi had signed anything - signaling to the DNC that they were not going to certify eligibility. They coordinated their efforts with Joe Sandler, who sent both documents together to the HI Elections Office. Apparently Sandler, Pelosi, and Germond all knew that Hawaii’s special certification was necessary because the HDP refused to certify Obama’s eligibility.
The question that begs an answer is: Why did the Hawaii Democratic Party refuse to certify Obama’s eligibility as they had always done to successfully place presidential candidates on the ballots before?
A former DNC official allegedly said the DNC added the eligibility language to be cautious, but that doesn’t explain why the HDP took OUT their certification which had always been sufficient in the past. Being “cautious” would mean either doing it the way it had always worked before, or ADDING to what had always worked before – not trying out an experiment that had never been tried before. Sandler had been counsel for the DNC in 1996, 2000 and 2004, and the Hawaii election law hasn’t changed since 1993 so there was no reason to believe the protocols always used weren’t sufficient. And if the DNC had questions they didn’t ask anybody about them; Deputy AG Aaron Schulaner didn’t remember anybody from the HDP or DNC asking about the requirement and said it doesn’t matter which of the 2 bodies certified eligibility.
I called the HDP headquarters on Nov 13, 2009, to ask who had authorized their change in procedures for 2008 and why. The person I spoke with had choice words for the “crazy birthers” but refused to answer questions about how the HDP’s 2008 certificate was created. I specifically wanted to know what legal counsel had approved the changes to the document, when, and why. If there was a reasonable explanation for the change there should be no reason to hide any of that information.
Before finding out I was a “birther” the HDP worker had said that they don’t have a specific attorney but take each issue as it comes up, with members of the Executive Committee sometimes pitching in their legal expertise. Looking online, the only attorney I was able to find who had represented the HDP in lawsuits in the last 15 years (3 different cases, 2 of which have now been scrubbed from the web and all of which are missing from the Hawaii court site) was William H Gilardy, Jr. The attorney who represented Obama’s mother in her divorce from Lolo Soetoro. Chances are good that Gilardy has actually seen Obama’s birth certificate – not the late, amended Hawaii BC which has no legal value and couldn’t be used for any legal purposes, but the one Obama actually used for identification purposes for kindergarten and college entry, application for a social security number, selective service registration, etc. All the stuff Obama has hidden.
Brian Schatz, HDP Chairman who signed the certificate, was Obama’s campaign spokesman in Hawaii who graduated from (and later taught at) Punahou School ,where Obama graduated from high school, and spent a year in Kenya in 1992 (which overlaps Barack and Michelle’s visit to Kenya shortly before their wedding; by that time Obama had been president of Harvard Law Review and had a book deal) . He is now running for lieutenant governor and has been endorsed by Obama’s half-sister, Maya.
The HDP refusing to certify Obama’s eligibility is bad enough as it is, but for the HDP’s usual legal counsel to be the very person who has probably seen Obama’s non-Hawaii birth certificate is explosive.
All this was presumably known by Nancy Pelosi and Alice Travers Germond when they signed that special certification for Hawaii. It was almost certainly known by Joe Sandler when he had the special certificate drawn up, counseled Pelosi and Germond to sign it, and sent the letter of transmittal with both certificates to the HI Elections Office. Calls to Sandler’s law office have been unreturned.
The HDP refused to answer my questions because they ridicule “birthers”. I solemnly suggest that if nobody in law enforcement will compel answers before then, the 2011 House Ethics Committee – hopefully under Rep Darrell Issa – initiate an investigation into potential perjury by Nancy Pelosi, aided by the potential subornation of perjury by DNC Attorney Joseph Sandler.
One thing’s for sure—they all should be in prison.
Butterdezillion, this is tremendous work by someone who obviously knows their stuff. Thanks very much!!
Hey! Maybe that’s why God is destroying them all! They haven’t yet seen that once you begin something by breaking a commandment (bearing false witness, let’s say) then all bets are off as far as the Celestial Power is concerned.
Well, as they say “Don’t Eat the Yellow Snow in Hawaii”
Lucy, can you ping the list to this post, please?
People may know most of this by now, but I’ve got the documentation posted on my blog now (except the uploads I need my husband to help me with).
Thanks!
June 20, 2010
Hawaii elections clerk: Obama birth not here
A college professor who worked as a senior elections clerk for the City and County of Honolulu in 2008 is making the stunning claim Barack Obama was definitely not born in Hawaii as the White House maintains, and that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Obama does not even exist in the Aloha State.
Tim Adams, a former senior elections clerk for Honolulu, now teaches English at Western Kentucky University.
“There is no birth certificate,” said Tim Adams, a graduate assistant who teaches English at Western Kentucky University in Bowling Green, Ky. “It’s like an open secret. There isn’t one. Everyone in the government there knows this.”
Adams, who says he’s a Hillary Clinton supporter who ended up voting for John McCain when Clinton lost the Democratic nomination to Obama, told WND, “I managed the absentee-ballot office. It was my job to verify the voters’ identity.”
He says during the 2008 campaign when the issue of Obama’s constitutional eligibility first arose, the elections office was inundated with requests to verify the birthplace of the U.S. senator from Illinois.
“I had direct access to the Social Security database, the national crime computer, state driver’s license information, international passport information, basically just about anything you can imagine to get someone’s identity,” Adams explained. “I could look up what bank your home mortgage was in. I was informed by my boss that we did not have a birth record [for Obama].”
At the time, there were conflicting reports that Obama had been born at the Queen’s Medical Center in Honolulu, as well as the Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women and Children across town. So Adams says his office checked with both facilities.
Bump....will have to read later. One thing I KNOW is that you’ve got a lot of blood, sweat and tears involved in your research. (Hope the SP’s don’t show up.)
Do you realize what peril you have now placed Gilardy in? These are not just politicians lying to the public, these are power lusting dead-souls who may already have murdered persons who can endanger the supposed legitimacy of the bastard boy soiling the people’s Oval Office! If Gilardy would not sign off on illegitimacy before the election, how can he be allowed to continue to breath if he could reveal criminality of the bastard-in-chief? The thigocracy will not tolerate loose ends, even if it is butterdezillion who uncovers them. Phil Berg may be about to yank the rug right from under the sonofabitch in the White Hut. God protect Gilardy and Berg and all associated to them.
Excellent detective work. I hope soon these research efforts of yours and some other stalwarts will reach those who can take action.
This guy could have cleaned up and/or tampered with Obama's Hawaiian school records.
Interesting, I wonder why William H Gilardy, (Obama’s mother’s lawyer)
changed his business practice from “AAL- law corporation” to “LLC -Limited Liability Company” in 2009?
Could it have something to do with his legal advice to the HDP to NOT certify Obama’s eligibility in Hawaii
as it had routinely done in all past elections?
Here is his business before 2009...
http://hbe.ehawaii.gov/documents/business.html?fileNumber=49985P1
MASTER NAME WILLIAM H. GILARDY, JR., ATTORNEY AT LAW A LAW CORPORATION
BUSINESS TYPE Domestic Professional Corporation
FILE NUMBER 49985 P1
STATUS Inv. Dissolved
PURPOSE LEGAL PROFESSION - ATTORNEY AT LAW, A LAW CORPORATION
PLACE INCORPORATED Hawaii UNITED STATES
REGISTRATION DATE Jan 19, 1982
MAILING ADDRESS 733 BISHOP ST FL 24
HONOLULU, Hawaii 96813
UNITED STATES
TERM PER
AGENT NAME WILLIAH H. GILARDY, JR.
AGENT ADDRESS 733 BISHOP ST
HONOLULU, Hawaii 96813
UNITED STATES
Here is his business starting June 2009...
http://hbe.ehawaii.gov/documents/business.html?fileNumber=70410C5
MASTER NAME WILLIAM H. GILARDY, JR. AAL, LLC
BUSINESS TYPE Domestic Limited Liability Company (LLC)
FILE NUMBER 70410 C5
STATUS Active
PLACE INCORPORATED Hawaii UNITED STATES
REGISTRATION DATE Jun 16, 2009
MAILING ADDRESS 1620 ALA MOANA BLVD STE 510
HONOLULU, Hawaii 96815
UNITED STATES
CROSS REFERENCE NAME WILLIAM H. GILARDY, JR. AAL, LLC
MANAGED BY MEMBER(S)
AGENT NAME WILLIAM H. GILARDY, JR.
AGENT ADDRESS 1620 ALA MOANA BLVD STE 510
HONOLULU, Hawaii 96815
UNITED STATES
...ButterDeZillion, Thanks a million!
I believe you’re right, that HDP’s laywer - Gilardy knew too much personal knowledge of Obama and his parents’ history
to allow his clients to purjure themselves on that eligibily document for the state of Hawaii !!!
So the weasel-word substitute-document that Gilardy’s clients signed in 2008,
then forced Nancy Pelosi to bite the bullet and certify herself, that Obama was eligible for office!
Gilardy knew Obama’s TRUE past because he was his mother’s divorce lawyer...
http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:1gMJYCLLI58J:decalogosintl.org/documents/Soetoro_Divorce.pdf+william+h+Gilardy+hawaii&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjaKRyjaXvKmzZ7XdY7laNVfZGnEgtzvm-gQzEe6FhwbpBzlNVN3pS5oDnleYJhVVp9v8cduak6NQLYphcIQFm4EgjcBpAuJV8HAHjRGKXzulsG03Gj2Owozyq8hUJTaK2jnd4M&sig=AHIEtbTqZG-bpeoSp7zwOBc-4oEprZ3CRQ
...freepers, please find out what you can about William H Gilardy and save stuff so it doesn’t ‘disappear’!
For starters, Gilardy handles money for this non-profit:
CAPTAIN DAVID LYMAN MARITIME SCHOLARSHIP FUND (but I have no idea how or why this could be important)
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ABr50RTvZLYJ:www.taxexemptworld.com/organizations/honolulu_hi_96812.asp+william+h+Gilardy+hawaii&cd=16&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
http://www.calstate.edu/newsline/2007/n20070706ma1.shtml
Gilardy is also a member of the Real Property and Financial Services Section of the Hawaii State Bar Association.
http://archives.starbulletin.com/98/12/29/news/story3.html
“William Gilardy Jr., the attorney for the state Democratic Party”
http://www.myhsba.org/PublicDirectory/PublicDirectory.aspx?m=001530
Name: Gilardy Jr., William H.
JD No.: 001530
License Status: Active
Firm: Attorney at Law
City: Honolulu
Address: Yacht Harbor Professional Ctr.
1620 Ala Moana Blvd. Ste. 510
Honolulu, Hawaii 96815
USA
Phone: 808-237-4141
Fax: 808-237-4101
E-mail: wgilardy@yhpro.com
Law School: Hastings College of Law
Graduated:
Admitted HI Bar: 05/01/1975
http://www.insurlawhawaii.com/
Jeffrey Y. Higashi is a 1979 graduate of the Law Center of University of Southern California. His undergraduate degree is from the University of Hawaii. Mr. Higashi is admitted to practice before all courts of the State of Hawaii. He is a former partner of Burke Sakai McPheeters Bordner & Gilardy, a former Senior Trial Attorney for AIG Insurance, and recently was Head Staff Counsel for GEICO in Honolulu.
...
And now I am curious,
--why does William Gilardy and his wife Yvonne own 36 square feet of property in an area of +million dollar homes?
--And why is their 36 square feet NOT assessed for $3600?(the same rate per square foot as the expensive properties on that block)
--and why are 5 out of 7 of the +million dollar properties there owned by TRUSTS? What the hell is going on there?
http://www.city-data.com/honolulu-county/D/Dune-Circle-1.html
Also, hawaii loan modification program.com says "We work with many local attorneys including William H. Gilardy, Jr., Attorney at Law."
William H. Gilardy, Jr. Now practicing with: Watanabe Ing & Kawashima 5th Floor, Hawaii Building 745 Fort Street Honolulu, Hawaii 96813 (808)544-8300 Attorney for The Home Insurance Company
apparently co-owners of Kori Inc,? William H Gilardy Maritza Gonzalez Peter E Illi Coralie Kop
http://archives.record-eagle.com/1999/obits/0499obit.htm Survivors include his children, William H. Gilardy Jr. of Honolulu, ...
Bankruptcy Lawyers in Honolulu Bankruptcy Attorneys Gilardy, William H. Jr. 733 Bishop St HONOLULU, HI 96813. Goo, Garrick L. H. 745 Fort St HONOLULU, HI 96813 (808) 524-0155. Guben, Jerrold K. 733 Bishop St ... www.directory-of-professionals.com/hawaii-honolulu-bankruptcy-attorneys.html
Has any other President in history had this kind of incident instigated by a Speaker of the House? If the answer is no, whose investigating why did Pelosi was allowed to do this? Why hasn’t anyone in Congress asked for an investigation? Can We The People instigate a class action suit against Pelosi?
Regrettably, federal law enforcement, as long as the 'Rats own the executive branch, will not do anything about this matter. Plus, it would seem as if the Ethics Committee might not have jurisdiction over Pelosi, because the questionable act was not committed under her role as a member of the House, but rather as a Democratic Convention official.
So you’ve drawn a conclusion that the Hawaii Democratic Party changed their procedures in 2008 and refused to certify Obama’s Constitutional eligibility based on what evidence?
Where is the evidence? I’ve read your article three times and still don’t see any evidence. You show the letter the HDP submitted but don’t provide letters from previous years to show that both the language of the letter and the procedure for producing it changed between 2000/2004 and 2008. If you can’t scan these previous letters, provide a verbatim transcipt of the language used in 2000/2004.
And you reach the conclusion that an attorney who represented the HDP in three previous lawsuits also advised the HDP not to certify Obama’s eligibility? I realize you think it’s likely, but where’s the evidence?
** Late PING!
As always, unbelievably extensive research, butter!
KUDOS! Keep going !
NH agreed to investigate this and then magically 2 weeks later they said they couldn’t investigate this because there wasn’t any money to do it...
Post & Email has some stories on this too...
Good work butter.
I’d say that the stew is beginning to boil.
Do you have scans of the two seperate certifications?
bttt