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The Truth about Obama's Muslim 'Faith'
The American Thinker ^ | August 23, 2010 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 08/23/2010 3:27:25 AM PDT by Scanian

Now that Barack Obama has decided to be for the Ground Zero mosque before being implicitly against it (perhaps), discussion about his faith has once again reached a fever pitch. To many, his stance proves he's a Muslim, with a recent poll showing that almost 20 percent of Americans hold that opinion; to others, it just reflects a desire to be faithful to the Constitution (now, that would be change). The truth, however, is a bit more nuanced. Obama is not religiously Muslim. Culturally, though...well, that's a different matter altogether.

In reality, calling Obama a "Muslim" gives him too much credit. As G.K. Chesterton once said, "We call a man a bigot or a slave of dogma because he is a thinker who has thought thoroughly and to a definite end." The truth, however, is that few people have thought thoroughly and to a definite end. And Obama is no exception. He hasn't even thought matters through enough to understand the folly of statism. Even more to the point, he is a moral relativist, a position the antithesis of any absolutist faith. Inherent in Islam is that belief that Allah, not man, has authored right and wrong and that, consequently, it isn't a matter of opinion. Thus, Obama cannot truly believe in Islam -- or in Christianity or Judaism, for that matter.

Oh, and since some will ask, how do I know Obama is a relativist? It's simple: Virtually all leftists are, as the denial of moral reality that is relativism lies at the heart of liberalism.

Speaking of relativists, this matter of Obama's "faith" much reminds me of Adolf Hitler and paganism. Like Obama, Hitler sometimes feigned a belief in Christianity, but in reality he held the religion in contempt. He believed it was "the greatest trick the Jews ever played on Western civilization" and lamented that it was not a warrior creed like Islam or the ancient Germanic paganism with which the Nazis wanted to replace Christianity (I wrote about this here). Yet while Hitler's second in command, Heinrich Himmler, certainly believed in the ancient pagan myths -- going so far as to launch expeditions to the Far East to prove them, à la Raiders of the Lost Ark -- it's silly to think that the leader himself viewed them as anything but a utilitarian device. He wasn't quite that romantic.

But what about culturally? For sure, Hitler preferred seeing Swastikas and runes (respectively, pagan symbols and letters) to crosses and crèches, rebuilt Germanic pagan temples to churches. That was where his passions lay. (If some are upset at a comparison between Hitler and Obama, know that I'd never call the president a National Socialist. He's an international socialist. Also, Hitler was patriotic.)

Obama also has passions, and there is no question as to where they lie. As journalist Todd Fitchette wrote in "The un-faith of Obama,"

... he continues to openly praise Islam; he bows to Muslim leaders; he claims that the Muslim call to prayer is "the most beautiful sound in the world;" he regularly quotes from the Koran and cites it for directing his life; ...

"In the past year alone he made a big deal out of hosting a celebratory dinner to open the month of Ramadan -- held in the state dining room; he refused to attend the 100th anniversary of the Boy Scouts (an avowed Christian organization), and, refused to attend the National Day of Prayer because he claimed to do so would be offensive to non-Christians."

Then there is that king of Freudian slips, when Obama matter-of-factly said to interviewer George Stephanopoulos, "You're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith," and he didn't seem headed for a correction until Stephanopoulos interjected. (Note: This doesn't contradict my assertion that Obama has no real faith. Nancy Pelosi has spoken of her Catholic faith, but, as she is also a relativist, it can be nothing more than part of her cultural tapestry.)

And are Obama's passions surprising? He spent some of his formative years in the world's most populous Muslim country, Indonesia, where he was registered as a Muslim in both schools he attended and sometimes prayed on Fridays in a mosque. Moreover, there is another factor, one most people don't consider.

As many know, there once was a great boxer named Cassius Clay. He converted to Islam in 1964, seemingly bothered that Jesus was portrayed as "a white with blond hair and blue eyes," as he put it, and took the name "Muhammad Ali." Of course, the irony of this is that despite being intensely aware of his slave roots, Ali rejected the name of an abolitionist (Clay) and took the name of a slave-owner (Muhammad). It also perhaps eluded him that Christians were the first ones to outlaw slavery, while Muslims give black Africans rope and chains to this day.

But I mention this because Ali's path is a common one in the black community; it is why we've long had the Black Muslims and why Islamic names are so common among American blacks. Many blacks have bought the bill of goods that Christianity is the white man's religion, the faith of oppressors. And they embrace Islam as part of a rejection of "white" society.

Obviously, being part of this milieu could only have reinforced Obama's affinity for things Muslim and antipathy for things authentically Christian -- of which Western civilization is one. And if Americans hadn't been brainwashed with political correctness, they would understand this. With foreign and domestic Muslim influence; attendance at a Black Liberation Theology, pseudo-Christian church; and alliances with ex-terrorists and declared communists, Obama perfectly fits the profile of an America-hater. The wolf never really wore sheep's clothing; it's just that Americans had wool pulled over their eyes.

As for Obama's eyes, they cannot look heavenward when they're so busy looking down on little people who "cling to guns and religion." I sense that Obama is a certain kind of person, one much like Hitler -- who wanted to create a new German pagan religion with himself at its center -- in a particular sense. This type of person essentially says the following to God: "The universe just isn't big enough for the two of us." And his little world certainly isn't, filled to all corners as it is with his bloated, power-hungry ego. This, by the way, has been acknowledged by more honest secularists. For example, Friedrich Nietzsche, the 19th-century poster boy for atheism who is rumored to have been a philosopher (in reality, he is someone who helped discredit the field), once said through his version of Zarathustra, "If there were gods, how could I endure it to be no God? Therefore there can be no gods." I have a feeling that Obama cannot endure it to be no god.

It is, again, unwise to give Obama too much credit. Good faith is defined as "an act of the will informed by the intellect," and any kind of faith requires submission to something higher than yourself. Obama is neither that intellectual nor that humble. But all humans have passions, and his aren't hard to discern. He is anti-American, anti-Western, anti-Christian (the traditional variety), anti-white, and anti-life. He is more comfortable dining with Bill Ayers than with the Queen of England, more internationalist than nationalist, and perhaps more at home in Dar al-Islam than Dar al-Harb. He has lived abroad and traveled much, but he is a lover of nations like a Casanova is a lover of women: He has known many but loves, and is faithful to, none -- not even the one to which he should be married. He is a cultural traitor, and as Cicero said two thousand years ago, "A murderer is less to be feared."

To quote Chesterton again, "There was a time when men weren't very sure of themselves, but they were very sure of what the truth was. Now men are very sure of themselves but not at all sure of what the truth is." The latter describes Obama. If he does have faith, it is in himself. And that is a faith terribly misplaced.


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: culture; islam; mosque; obamagroundzero; obamathemuslim; ovalofficemuslim; relativism; zerogroundzero
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1 posted on 08/23/2010 3:27:29 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

Americans are people of action. We watch for your actions and we study your actions.

If anyone has to come out and state that they are this, or are not that, means there is a problem. It means that your actions are not doing the job so you need to spin the facts.

Facts don’t spin well so you look like a fool when you attempt it.


2 posted on 08/23/2010 3:36:26 AM PDT by pennyfarmer (Even a RINO will chew its foot off when caught in a trap.)
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To: Scanian
Nothing puts me in a cheery glow more than seeing President Obama get slammed mightily first thing on a Monday morning.
3 posted on 08/23/2010 3:38:17 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Scanian
The Kenyan Clown spontaneously recited, in perfect Arabic, the shahada to Nicholas Kristof of the New York Times.

He's a Muslim. It's impossible that he's not.

Barack Hussein Obama went to Koranic studies as a child, and absorbed those lessons well indeed. He knows that a witting public recitation of the shahada is an unalterable and undeniable profession of belief in Islam.

4 posted on 08/23/2010 3:52:18 AM PDT by snowsislander (In this election year, please ask your candidates if they support repeal of the 1968 GCA.)
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To: billorites

Amen brother what a POS


5 posted on 08/23/2010 3:58:21 AM PDT by DooDahhhh
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To: snowsislander
It's a no brainer for me. He ridicules Christianity.

Obama Mocks Bible, but said he's Christian.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvnY8WY24bA

Obama gets list of top Muslim Americans
Denver Post Wire Report
Posted: 03/27/2009 12:30:00 AM MDT
Updated: 03/27/2009 12:58:19 AM MDT

http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_12006596

More here:

CHANGING OF THE GUARD

Obama seeks Muslims for White House posts
45 Ivy League grads, Fortune 500 execs,government officials submitted for look

Posted: March 28, 2009
11:55 pm Eastern

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=93251

Most recently, THIS caught my attention:

Shariah-Compliant Finance Advisor Picked by Obama as White House Fellow
by Zombie
Pajamas Media
June 25, 2010

On Tuesday, President Obama announced the appointment of this year’s “White House Fellows,” a prestigious program in which outstanding Americans are chosen to work in the White House and receive “first hand, high-level experience with the workings of the Federal government.” According to a White House Press release, one of this year’s Fellows is a young lawyer named Samar Ali:

Samar Ali is an Associate with the firm Hogan Lovells US LLP. She is responsible for counseling clients on mergers & acquisitions, cross-border transactions, Shari’a compliant transactions, project finance, and international business matters.

Left out of the press release is that she also previously worked as an intern and received training at the Islamic International Arab Bank; according to her staff bio at the Hogan Lovells law firm,

Samar’s experience includes advising a Middle Eastern university in the potential establishment of a Foreign Aid Conventional and Shari’ah Compliant Student Loan Program. … Before joining Hogan & Hartson, Samar worked as a summer associate for the firm and as a legal intern for the Islamic International Arab Bank.

Read the complete original version of this item...

http://www.islamist-watch.org/4300/shariah-compliant-finance-advisor-picked-by-obama

One state is preparing itself against Shariah Law

Written by Bruce Walker
Wednesday, 09 June 2010 16:10

Oklahoma lawmakers are supporting an amendment to the Oklahoma Constitution that would prohibit state courts from relying upon Sharia (Islamic law) or international law in deciding cases.

House Joint Resolution 1056 would place the issue before Oklahoma voters in November. This resolution, nicknamed “Save Our State,” has been proposed because of a rising concern with courts citing non-American sources as legal authority. Sharia, in particular, poses a threat to traditional American values. Honor killings and similar crimes are seeping into our nation, with justification under traditional Islamic law an increasingly common concern..

http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/3751-oklahoma-lawmakers-resist-using-sharia-in-court

NASA Chief: Next Frontier Better Relations With Muslim World

Published July 05, 2010

| FoxNews.com

NASA Administrator Charles Bolden said in a recent interview that his “foremost” mission as the head of America's space exploration

agency is to improve relations with the Muslim world.

Though international diplomacy would seem well outside NASA’s orbit, Bolden said in an interview with Al Jazeera that strengthening those ties was among the top tasks President Obama assigned him. He said better interaction with the Muslim world would ultimately advance space travel.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/05/nasa-chief-frontier-better-relations-muslims/

An oldie but a goodie:

Obama Pronounces Islam A Great Religion
From his fellow defenders of the faith at the Associated Press:

Obama hosts dinner for Islamic holy month
By ANN SANNER (AP)

September 1, 2009

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama on Tuesday praised American Muslims for enriching the nation’s culture at a dinner to celebrate the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.

“The contribution of Muslims to the United States are too long to catalog because Muslims are so interwoven into the fabric of our communities and our country,” Obama said at the iftar, the dinner that breaks the holiday’s daily fast.

The president joined Cabinet secretaries, members of the diplomatic corps and lawmakers to pay tribute to what he called “a great religion and its commitment to justice and progress.”

Attendees included Congress’ two Muslim members — Reps. Keith Ellison and Andre Carson as well as ambassadors from Islamic nations and Israel’s ambassador to the United States, Michael Oren…

Obama has made a special effort since taking office to repair U.S. relations with the world’s Muslims, including visits to Turkey and Cairo. In a June speech at the Egyptian capital, as well as in one to another important Muslim audience, in Turkey, Obama said: “America is not — and never will be — at war with Islam.”

...

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-calls-islam-a-great-religion

The United States is not, and never will be, at war with Islam.

Barack Obama

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/b/barack_obama_3.html

Much more could be added ... now we are flying around an inman at OUR expense for “cultural education” over seas. Can you seriously imagine Obama selecting a Rabbi, Catholic or Christian being selected to do this?

6 posted on 08/23/2010 4:10:21 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: snowsislander
Absolutely right!

Whether he's a deep thinking muslim (to quote the article a thinker who has thought thoroughly and to a definite end) or the type of muslim who plays fast and loose with the rules (people forget that Mohammed Atta drank and hung out at strip clubs prior to 9/11) is irrelevant.

Obama has been passionate about islam since childhood and his OBSESSIVE OUTREACH to Islam is proof of that!

7 posted on 08/23/2010 4:16:08 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: Scanian

...”As for Obama’s eyes, they cannot look heavenward when they’re so busy looking down on little people who “cling to guns and religion.” I sense that Obama is a certain kind of person, one much like Hitler — who wanted to create a new German pagan religion with himself at its center — in a particular sense. This type of person essentially says the following to God: “The universe just isn’t big enough for the two of us.” And his little world certainly isn’t, filled to all corners as it is with his bloated, power-hungry ego. This, by the way, has been acknowledged by more honest secularists. For example, Friedrich Nietzsche, the 19th-century poster boy for atheism who is rumored to have been a philosopher (in reality, he is someone who helped discredit the field), once said through his version of Zarathustra, “If there were gods, how could I endure it to be no God? Therefore there can be no gods.” I have a feeling that Obama cannot endure it to be no god.

It is, again, unwise to give Obama too much credit. Good faith is defined as “an act of the will informed by the intellect,” and any kind of faith requires submission to something higher than yourself. Obama is neither that intellectual nor that humble. But all humans have passions, and his aren’t hard to discern. He is anti-American, anti-Western, anti-Christian (the traditional variety), anti-white, and anti-life. He is more comfortable dining with Bill Ayers than with the Queen of England, more internationalist than nationalist, and perhaps more at home in Dar al-Islam than Dar al-Harb. He has lived abroad and traveled much, but he is a lover of nations like a Casanova is a lover of women: He has known many but loves, and is faithful to, none — not even the one to which he should be married. He is a cultural traitor, and as Cicero said two thousand years ago, “A murderer is less to be feared.”

To quote Chesterton again, “There was a time when men weren’t very sure of themselves, but they were very sure of what the truth was. Now men are very sure of themselves but not at all sure of what the truth is.” The latter describes Obama. If he does have faith, it is in himself. And that is a faith terribly misplaced”...

Read this quote, even if you read none of the rest of the artice..This is profound and very insightful.


8 posted on 08/23/2010 4:16:12 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: Scanian

WOW!


9 posted on 08/23/2010 4:16:52 AM PDT by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: nmh

oh please, Obama is a Muslim plant. If he was trying to do as much damage to the country as he could he’d do nothing differently.

Case Closed.


10 posted on 08/23/2010 4:18:24 AM PDT by politicianslie (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sandersp>)
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To: billorites

Ah, me too. I love the smell of Obama being roasted in the morning. Smells like...


11 posted on 08/23/2010 4:19:19 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: nmh
He ridicules Christianity. Obama Mocks Bible, but said he's Christian.

I love lightning!

12 posted on 08/23/2010 4:21:44 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate: Republicans freed the slaves Month.)
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To: politicianslie

Well said!

“oh please, Obama is a Muslim plant. If he was trying to do as much damage to the country as he could he’d do nothing differently.

Case Closed.


13 posted on 08/23/2010 4:21:56 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Scanian

He is a muslim out to destroy America... and anything else said is a lie and propaganda.

LLS


14 posted on 08/23/2010 4:37:15 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: Scanian
"In the past year alone he made a big deal out of hosting a celebratory dinner to open the month of Ramadan -- held in the state dining room; he refused to attend the 100th anniversary of the Boy Scouts (an avowed Christian organization), and, refused to attend the National Day of Prayer because he claimed to do so would be offensive to non-Christians."

Interesting points.

15 posted on 08/23/2010 4:40:50 AM PDT by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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To: snowsislander
The Kenyan Clown spontaneously recited, in perfect Arabic, the shahada to Nicholas Kristof of the New York Times.

And I can recite the words to the Pabst Blue Ribbon jingle but that does not make me a beer drinker. People remember things they heard as a kid. I agree with the article that he's not a Muslim, he's a typical modern lefty moralist.

16 posted on 08/23/2010 4:52:20 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
He took mengaji classes in Indonesia in which devout muslim students learn to recite the Koran in Arabic.

He recites the Shahada ("There is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is his Messenger") to Kristof in perfect Arabic and says the evening call to prayer is one of the prettiest sounds on earth at sundown.

That's little more than the PBR jingle!

17 posted on 08/23/2010 5:05:05 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: SonOfDarkSkies; Scanian

“Whether he’s a deep thinking muslim (to quote the article a thinker who has thought thoroughly and to a definite end)”

Our betters believe that we have been corrupted, we can’t trusted to know what’s good for us, but they know because they are uncorruped.

Robespierre regarded it as his duty to coerce the corrupted population (that would be us) to live according to what he in his purity regarded as virtue. He said: “The enemies of the Republic are cowardly egoists, the ambitious and the corrupt. You have driven out the kings, but have you driven out those vices that their fatal domination bred within you?”

Egotists have a trait of projecting their inner turmoil onto others. The parallels between dictators and The One are uncanny thereagain they read Rousseau as today they read Marx. I’ve seen lefties turn themselves into a pretzel in the effort of making Robespierre a shy, lovable, decent man who had the ladies swooning over him. How could they swoon over a dictator, right...

Robespierre created something called “the day of the Supreme being.” It was later revealed in a painting, commissioned by himself, to be Robespierre himself. :)


18 posted on 08/23/2010 5:10:31 AM PDT by bronxville
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To: Scanian

Anyone could see during the campaign for President that “O” was unnecessarily and disturbingly equivocating, intellectually blasé, shamelessly devious, calculating and opportunistic in ways and on issues where nothing but unalloyed candor was expected from (in fact compulsory) in OTHER candidates.

Why anyone now expects honesty, integrity and direct expression from his as President is really remarkable.

Hiding behind the pathologically ubiquitous dogma of ‘multiculturalism/tolerance’, he can/does commit the most maladroit, politically objectionable, near criminal and treasonous blunders of ANY President in our history.

The meter is running on this farce. Any nation on earth which can’t get what it wants out of America NOW…isn’t even trying!! I think they know it too.


19 posted on 08/23/2010 5:15:09 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What luck for rulers that men do not think." Adolph Hitler)
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To: Scanian

While I don’t believe Obamuslim faces east on his prayer rug several times a day, I do believe that Islam courses through that charred heart of his and thus colors all that he sees, hears, feels, and speaks.


20 posted on 08/23/2010 5:15:45 AM PDT by Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness
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