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Officer's defense team demanding Obama docs
World Net Daily ^ | August 13, 2010 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 08/14/2010 12:41:20 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The key defense attorney for an Army officer being put on trial for refusing orders he views as suspect because of the possibility Barack Obama is not eligible to be commander-in-chief is demanding documentation from the president.

On the G. Gordon Liddy radio show today, Paul Rolf Jensen said the request for "discovery" in the Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin case – the access by the defense to documentation in the government's possession that could help its case – is being submitted.

Jensen had been asked whether there is a legal basis for denying a defendant on trial on criminal charges legitimate access to documentation that would prove his case.

"We are today officially requesting that discovery," Jensen said. "If the government refuses to give it to us, then we will, a week from today, file a motion to compel discovery.

"I can't think of a single reason why the judge would take the government's position," he said.

The controversy stems from the Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, which states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

A number of challenges and lawsuits have been based on the constitutional requirement, some alleging Obama does not qualify because he was not born in Hawaii in 1961 as he claims. Others say he fails to qualify because he was a dual citizen of the U.S. and the United Kingdom when he was born, and the framers of the Constitution specifically excluded dual citizens from eligibility.

Complicating the issue is the fact that besides Obama's actual birth documentation, he has concealed documentation including his kindergarten records...

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; kenyabelieveit; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; talkradio; terrencelakin
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Nothing to see here, move along...
1 posted on 08/14/2010 12:41:23 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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"I can't think of a single reason why the judge would take the government's position," he said.

I predict that the judge will say that Obama's eligibility is irrelevant to Lakin's case and therefore the discovery request for Obama's birth certificate will be denied. His orders are presumed lawful and valid and that's what the military told him when he refused deployment.

Not saying it's right, just saying it's what's going to happen.

2 posted on 08/14/2010 12:46:19 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This will go nowhere fast! POOF!


3 posted on 08/14/2010 12:46:49 AM PDT by historyrepeatz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Anyone taking bets on how long it will be before the .gov drops all the charges?


4 posted on 08/14/2010 12:47:25 AM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let there be light!


5 posted on 08/14/2010 12:49:19 AM PDT by thecodont
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"I can't think of a single reason why the judge would take the government's position," he said.

I can. The judge wants his military retirement, so he will take the government's position.

6 posted on 08/14/2010 12:50:03 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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Sadly, Lakin will be found guilty and his sentence will be to help build the 0Dumbo muzzie & terror camp in NYC. Once built, he will then be stoned to death.

Sad ending for a brave solider.

7 posted on 08/14/2010 1:01:11 AM PDT by redshawk (Hey 0Dumbo, I'm scratching my nose too, and not with my index finger!)
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didn’t I just see another article earlier where some man is being charged for impersonating a military officer???

Some joe blow can claim he is a US army officer or whatever, and go to jail for it....

But Obama can impersonate the highest official position in the united states illegitimately, and everyone demanding to see his badge goes to jail.


8 posted on 08/14/2010 1:29:12 AM PDT by Safrguns
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I can. The judge wants his military retirement, so he will take the government's position.

then it should be time for the Army IG to get to work on this case.....some of these "Generals" need to get some cajones..... that, IMO, is the problem today, they are more worried about THEIR job, than THE job.....bunch of friggin FAT CAT wussies with a bunch of shiny stars, if you ask me....hey, I praise the Army IG for his work on the Arlington Cemetary situation....but he has much more important fish to fry...particularly if your scenario plays out...

9 posted on 08/14/2010 1:40:18 AM PDT by OBXWanderer
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Sorry to say that there is much to see here but the courts will say move along... Too bad, it would be interesting to open that packet of information that seems to be so secretive.

I am not so sure about his past, but his reluctance to disclose it makes me very suspicious.


10 posted on 08/14/2010 2:02:04 AM PDT by Deagle
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The Army tried to get LTC Lakin kicked out first to avoid a trial. Drip. Drip. Drip. Drip.


11 posted on 08/14/2010 2:05:17 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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Sure hope something comes of this...


12 posted on 08/14/2010 2:10:16 AM PDT by Deagle
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...Some joe blow can claim he is a US army officer or whatever, and go to jail for it....

But Obama can impersonate the highest official position in the united states illegitimately, and everyone demanding to see his badge goes to jail.

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I agree with that

The smoking gun is the feeble effort to 'bamboozle' America with the phony birth document (Certification of Live Birth) he put up on his web site. That should have brought an FBI visit for forging a birth certificate.

The Ceritification of Live Birth form is not definitive.

He and his administration think Americans are idiots. They know that you are waiting for the piss-stream media to tell the truth but it ain't ever going to happen.

WAKE UP AMERICA



Where's the the original Certificate of Live Birth, Mr. President?


13 posted on 08/14/2010 2:27:15 AM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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"I can't think of a single reason why the judge would take the government's position," he said.

LOL

14 posted on 08/14/2010 3:13:07 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Agreed.

For now the Leftists own the courts, but this will not be the case much longer.

Then every secret thing will be exposed concerning Obama’s real name, birth place and date of birth for all the world to see.


15 posted on 08/14/2010 4:20:59 AM PDT by Ronbo1948
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To: Safrguns
Great post, how long does it take for more Americans understand this simple concept?
didn’t I just see another article earlier where some man is being charged for impersonating a military officer???

Some joe blow can claim he is a US army officer or whatever, and go to jail for it....

But Obama can impersonate the highest official position in the united states illegitimately, and everyone demanding to see his badge goes to jail.

Safrguns - FreeRepublic - 8-14-2010

"No man is above the law and no man is below it: nor do we ask any man's permission when we ask him to obey it."

Theodore Roosevelt

16 posted on 08/14/2010 4:36:38 AM PDT by mtngrandpa
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“Shazam America!”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gomer_Pyle

Gomer provided much of the comic relief during his two-year stint on The Andy Griffith Show. He was often awestruck by the simplest of things, resulting in the exclamation of his catchphrases, “Shazam!”, “Gaaw-aawl-ly” and “Surprise, surprise, surprise!”.


17 posted on 08/14/2010 4:58:41 AM PDT by mtngrandpa
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hmph..”Bammy’s impersonating an American citizen...and Howard Dean is accessory to fraud.


18 posted on 08/14/2010 5:02:49 AM PDT by mo
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The Officer’s Oath plainly mentions the orders of the President of the United States. An officer has the duty to not follow any orders he believes are unlawful, e.g., from an unlawful source.

“I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”


19 posted on 08/14/2010 5:12:31 AM PDT by greenhornet68
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"...demanding documentation..."

Demanding? lol

20 posted on 08/14/2010 6:28:07 AM PDT by verity
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