Posted on 07/08/2010 9:22:43 AM PDT by decimon
Says lower IQ rates will help it deal with smaller U.S. talent pool
The U.S. has arguably been the most desirable place in the world to get a college education with international students from China, India, Japan, and others all traveling to the U.S. with that express purpose. However, there's serious signs of trouble; U.S. citizens' college graduation rates are in danger of falling behind China. Japanese enrollment is down as U.S. universities are slowly falling out of favor. And at least one executive of an Indian firm complained that American graduates were "unemployable".
Adding to the list of awkward statistics is a recent announcement by Bleum Inc., a Chinese outsourcing company. In China, with a deluge of available highly-intelligent graduates, Bleum Inc. requires that its workers score over 140 on an IQ test.
When it decided to recruit American computer science graduates, though, it decided that bar was way too high. It dropped the requirement for the Americans down to 120, a move it says reflects a lower pool of talented college grads in the U.S.
Bleum says the move is meant as no affront to the U.S. Its founder and CEO Eric Rongley is actually an American himself. He says that in China his firm gets thousands of applications a week from eager college grads. With about 1,000 employees, his firm hires less than 1 percent of those who apply. He states, "It is much harder to get into Bleum than it is to Harvard."
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I see the only solution is to outsource our kids to China.
Let them get a Chinese education. (Probably a lot cheaper than an Ivy League degree)
Just my 2 cents.
wow they require a 140 IQ. That is setting the bar pretty high. Good for them I guess.
I have a high IQ but it’s not all it’s cracked up to be. Often it results in people who can’t feel empathy or compassion as everything is logic driven. It’s hard to communicate with others because they can’t follow. So if they need some number crunchers or programmers high IQs are good. But if they need leaders often times it gets in their way. Not saying all leaders have small IQs either.
Don’t forget the teachers’ unions.
Don’t forget GLBT “Happy” Studies.
Definitely! My cousin’s husband is a math prof at Cal State and laments the lack of ability among the students in his classes, particularly the advanced levels. When he was an undergrad (the Eighties), an A required at least a score of 85. Using many of the same exams, the curve has been lowered to 80 or less depending upon the exam.
His greatest concern is the lack of inquisitiveness among most of his students. Also, in an essay question discussing math theory, juniors and seniors misspelled numerous words.
Indian firms trying to defend their syphoning off of American tech sector jobs.
Back when I was tested (high school), they wouldn't even give you your exact score, only the range. Since I graduated 14th in a class of 144, I suspect I'm right in the middle of the range.
I can't see where the intelligence has made me any extra money, but it has kept me from voting for libtards . . .
US demographics have been shifting in favor of lower IQ segments.
Unmarried teenage mothers whom the government subsidizes to have babies (the hallowed “single moms” who are the mascot class of progressives) average one of the lowest IQ levels of the population.
Also, the tens of millions of illegals who have crossed the southern border significantly lower the average IQ of the country. The high school dropout rate for foreign-born hispanics is appallingly high. The argument by progressives that the children and grandchildren of this population will be widely engaged in high value-added economic activity, such as high-tech entrepreneurs or inventors of medical devices, is nonsense as the data show that the American-born generations following the immigrant generation still have ridiculously high dropout rates, not to mention 50% illegitimacy rates.
As the average IQ of the American population falls relative to other competing world economic zones, and as our economy and politics becomes more socialistic and sclerotic, the standard of living of the US will begin falling farther and farther behind.
No, the standards here are far, far more lax than in India. Consider that EVERY Indian high school studend speaks AT LEAST 3 languages fluently. And I do mean ‘fluently’!! They speak English (spelling and grammar are impecable, American accent, not so much), they speak Hindi (national language of India) and whatever local dialect they grew up with. There are over 1,500 local dialects spoken in India.
In America, we can’t do enough for the stupid, lazy or unmotivated. We punish the achievers - heck, we even deny the Valadictorian and Salutatorian the honor of speaking at their graduation in many states. We can’t do enough for the losers.
In India, it’s achieve or go out on the streets and beg for food. Your future educational potential is based upon your previous educational achievements - now THAT is incentive.
So, he is absolutely and compoletely correct. Among Indians, they are trained to treat the average American as a high school drop-out; and given the standards they grow up with - they aren’t too far off.
The natural result of “No Child Left Behind.” When no child is left behind, the educational system has been dumbed down until no child is educated.
We USED to do that. Now, we've lowered our standards to fit just about anyone who can fog a dental mirror. I guess China is willing to put up with those zany quirks that high IQs bring to the table. I would argue that I'd rather see an average IQ with study skills and a willingness to put forth the effort to master any given subject -- that would leave us with the task of finding educators who can manage to give that average IQ enough material (minus the liberal "world view") to see what they can do with it and insist that they meet a high bar to achieve the mastery.
Right. "You're" part of the problem.
Right. "You're" part of the problem.
I know just when to screw up, don't I?
Thanks.
For leaders of regular, American-IQ companies you may be right. For leaders of Chinese-IQ companies, they may simply want to select those with interpersonal skills from their vast 140+ pool. Each to relate to his average employee.
I couldn’t add the sarcasm disclaimer without ruining the irony of the moment. Cheers!
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