Posted on 03/27/2010 11:24:56 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
Under this act, any new legislation that proposes a mandate on state and local governments estimated to cost more than $50 million dollars must have a Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimate and provide the funding to pay for the mandates.
How many states are going to have to deal with unfunded mandates that far exceed $50 million dollars and into the tens of billions of dollars each year and pertain to a host of services that will have to be funded by the federal gov't under ObamaCare?
If the unfunded mandates are funded, that would skyrocket the actual cost of ObamaCare.
Something else to add to the mix:
1.) The commerce clause deals with the regulation of commerce. How can the gov't regulate commerce if someone doesn't engage in commerce?
2.) How can the gov't force people to buy and sell and work jobs to buy and sell and engage in commerce? The gov't cannot force someone to work, so they cannot force them to engage in commerce.
Given the commerce clause deals with the regulation of commerce, the gov't therefore cannot force anyone to purchase health insurance coverage under ObamaCare, per 1 & 2.
How can the gov’t force people to buy and sell?who’s going to stop them?.
This is all part of the master plan for Obama. He knows the recent legislation won't pass muster. He hopes the republicans challenge the legality. He's already asked the Republicans to throw him into the briar patch by challenging them to campaign in the next elections as being against the healthcare reform bill.
Once the current legislation gets beat up because of the forced purchase of a product (insurance), they'll simply move on to single payer. They will tax the hell out of everybody, which they can legally do, and socialize the entire health system.
You think too logically! Pretzel logic liberals who say the constitution is so flexible that it must change all the time and be interepreted fluidly solved this problem years ago. You see, by not engaging in commerce, you are withholding commerce, and hence affecting commerce as a whole. Thus the government can regulate anything they want, whethere there is an actual economic exchange or not.
Ironically, those liberal activists who insist the consitution is flexible and only has whatever meaning is relevant in the moment take the opposite on court precendent. That is rock solid, immutable and unchanging. So this interpretation of the commerce clause is sacred ground for them.
Fax and maybe follow up with a letter. Faxes to all and letters to a few. I will see if I can post all the fax numbers and names of the AF’s for each state filing cases.
Also there is a doctors group in NJ that filed suit in Federal Court in Newark, NJ. I will try to get a fax number.
Any legal beagles here who can review what we are sending?
The Obamacare bill is byzantine to say the least and in its bowels are provisions that will conflict with everything from the US Constitution to state statutes. No single bill of nearly 3,000 pages could be understood by anyone let alone thought through. Add to this tens of thousands of pages of implementing regulations that will be needed to make this bill even half functional and you have a mess of a size and scope we can only imagine. We all should be hounding any member of Congress who voted for this. Boo them in public, picket their homes and offices and continue to melt their phones and e-mail systems with protests. The majority of the American people who abhor this bill need to make their voices heard loud and long all the way to November.
Interesting post!
I think your right. But Obviously Waxman is starting to bully people and companies. One of the things he wanted was all audits from companies from 2003 onward. Why the hell would he want this except to threaten with tax evasion or to call the people making top dollar for their business “capitalist pigs”?
Will they now find some way to work their way into these companies, force exec’s to take pay cuts and take them over through federal law?
> This is all part of the master plan for Obama. He knows the recent legislation won’t pass muster. He hopes the republicans challenge the legality. He’s already asked the Republicans to throw him into the briar patch by challenging them to campaign in the next elections as being against the healthcare reform bill.
Once the current legislation gets beat up because of the forced purchase of a product (insurance), they’ll simply move on to single payer. They will tax the hell out of everybody, which they can legally do, and socialize the entire health system.<
I doubt that. Though it may be his wet dream. After this past year of health care “reform” the American people are fed up. If this gets trashed he will never get another shot at it.
reid and pelosi had to spend all of their political clout on this one bill, they could NEVER get another one passed. I doubt that they could even get one of their minor cronies to support one let alone author it.
If it dies, it is done, at least until the next generation of pie in the sky hopefuls with great degrees and no common sense can vote for socialism that they know nothing about.
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