jehovahs witness

Welcome to FR n00b..

yes the Jehovah Witnesses do belong to a cult...

Other than that...

Merry Christmas...

and may you soon discover the REAL Jesus of the Bible, and get saved...

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Welcome to FR n00b..

yes the Jehovah Witnesses do belong to a cult...

Other than that...

Merry Christmas...

and I pray that you soon discover the REAL Jesus of the Bible, and get saved...

:)

Many years ago I worked nights. It wasn't easy to get enough sleep in the daytime and after being wakened a few times by salesmen and missionaries I made a big sign for the front door.

Lo and behold a couple of Jehovah's Witness ladies showed up, AND KNOCKED ON THE SIGN!

I answered the door just like I sleep, NAKED!

IT WORKED, THEY NEVER WOKE ME UP AGAIN!

I will have nothing to do with dangerous cults.

I only practice safe sects.

Well, welcome to FR.

Do you believe that only JW’s will get to heaven? I admit that I know much less about JW’ than Mormons (having been Mormon but never JW).

Maybe you can answer some of these questions?

# If the organization did not actually prophesy the end in 1925 and 1975, then how come so many Witnesses left the faith immediately afterwards? (”They lost roughly three-quarters of the movement between 1925 and 1928, then suffered huge losses after 1975, when the end didn’t come as they had implied over and over again,” said Jim Penton, an ex-Witness who writes entries on Jehovah’s Witnesses for the Encyclopedia Americana.)

# If the Watchtower organization rejects others calling them “inspired” yet the Watchtower organization does call themselves “God’s Spirit-directed Prophet” what is the difference? Is there such a thing as an “uninspired prophet”? See Organization claims inspiration

# Has the Society ever taught anything scripturally incorrect?

# Might the Society be teaching anything scripturally incorrect now?

# Since the Organization has received “new light” regarding the 1914 generation, and completely changed their view on this, does this mean that all the former Jehovah’s witnesses who were disfellowshipped years ago for the same view the organization is now teaching will automatically be accepted into fellowship again? Were these Ex-Jw’s in fact disfellowshipped for truth and knew things that the governing body did not? See Jw’s were disfellowshipped for rejecting generation doctrine

# Can Jehovah’s Witnesses hold and discuss openly with other Jehovah’s Witnesses opinions that differ from orthodox Watch Tower doctrine?

# Can individuals read & understand the Bible alone, or do they need an organization and it’s publications to do so?

# How do you prove from the Bible that 1935 was the year for the selection to heaven stopped due to being filled? What is the difference between a Catholic appealing to “what the organization tells him” about December 25 being the date of Jesus’ birthday and a Jw’ appealing to “what the organization tells him” about the date 1935? Is it not hypocritical when you chide the “poor deluded Catholic” that his faith cannot find a Bible passage to support it, when the same goes for you and 1935?

# How do you know that there were any vacancies, if any, in the 144,000 class if Jesus offered this to first century Christians? How can the organization know the exact number of vacancies today without any records from the first century?

# Why are you called, “Jehovah’s Witnesses” and not “Christians”? Since Jehovah’s Witnesses appeal to Isa 43:12; 44:8 for scriptural support that they should be called, “Jehovah’s Witnesses” then what was the “new name” prophesied in Isa 62:2? Can’t be “Jehovah’s Witnesses”, for God already used it 20 chapters earlier. Could the new name be “Christian” after our savior “Christ”?

# Why would the name God gave to His people not be “Christians” since Acts 11:26 says, “The disciples were first called Christians in Antioch”? Why is the name “Jehovah’s Witness” found nowhere in the New Testament, if that is God’s divine name for His people under the new covenant? Why would God wait almost 2000 years to suddenly start using the name “Jehovah’s Witness”. Does this mean that first century Christians were not known as Jehovah’s Witnesses”?

# If the name Jehovah is so important, then why is it never used in the entire Greek New Testament? If men edited out the name of God, “YHWH” when they copied the New Testament, as only the Watchtower organization claims, then how can we have any confidence in any of the New Testament? Should we discard the New Testament or the Watchtower organization as unreliable?

# If the name “Jehovah” is so important, then why does Acts 4:12 say, “There is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name [v10 Jesus Christ] under heaven that has been given among men, by which we must be saved”? Would this not have been the logical place for God to have used the name “YHWH”?

# What is the correct spelling of God’s proper name “Yahweh” or “Jehovah”? If Jehovah’s Witnesses maintain that “Yahweh” is more proper, why do they misspell it “Jehovah”? If the name of God is so important, then should you not only pronounce it correctly, but spell it correctly too? Is not spelling more important than pronunciation?

# Since the Jehovah’s Witness organization currently rejects most of the teachings of its founder Charles Taze Russell (who was president of the organization from 1879-1916), and since they also reject “Judge” Joseph Franklin Rutherford, who succeeded Russell as president from 1916 - 1942, how can we be sure that in 25 more years, Jehovah’s Witnesses won’t also reject the current president, Milton G. Henschel (1992 - present), as they did Russell and Rutherford?

# What kind of confidence can anyone have in an organization that rejected its founder and first two presidents for the first 63 years of its existence? This represents about 53% of the time they have existed!

# Since the Watchtower organization claims “apostolic succession” who was it that “passed the torch of God’s Spirit” to C. T. Russel when he founded the organization? What was the name of this individual?

# In the NWT, every time the Greek word “proskuneo” is used in reference to God, it is translated as “worship” (Rev 5:14, 7:11, 11:16, 19:4, Jn 4:20, etc.). Every time “proskuneo” is used in reference to Jesus, it is translated as “obeisance” (Mt 14:33, 28:9, 28:17, Lk 24:52, Heb 1:6, etc.), even though it is the same word in the Greek (see Gr-Engl Interlinear). Especially compare the Greek word “prosekunhsan” used with reference to God in Rev 5:14, 7:11, 11:16, and 19:4 and used with reference to Christ in Mt 14:33, 28:9, and 28:17. What is the reason for this inconsistency? If the NWT was consistent in translating “proskuneo” as “worship”, how would the verses above referring to Christ read?

# The NWT translates the Greek word “kyrios” as “Jehovah” more than 25 times in the New Testament (Mt 3:3, Lk 2:9, Jn 1:23, Acts 21:14, Rom 12:19, Col 1:10, 1Thess 5:2, 1Pet 1:25, Rev 4:8, etc.). Why is the word “Jehovah” translated when it does not appear in the Greek text? Why is the NWT not consistent in translating kyrios (kurion) as “Jehovah” in Rom 10:9, 1Cor 12:3, Phil 2:11, 2Thess 2:1, and Rev 22:21 (see Gr-Engl Interlinear)?

# To what was Jesus referring to by the term “this temple” in Jn 2:18- 19? See Jn 2:21.

# If the Holy Spirit is God’s impersonal active force, why does he directly speak and refer to himself as “I” and “me” in Acts 13:2?

# The NWT translates the Greek words “ego eimi” as “I am” every time it appears (Jn 6:34, 6:41, 8:24, 13:19, 15:5, etc.), except in Jn 8:58 where it is translated as “I have been”. What is the reason for the inconsistency in this translation? If “ego eimi” was translated in Jn 8:58 the same way it is translated in every other verse in which it appears, how would Jn 8:58 read?

# In Rev 22:12-13, Jesus Christ, the one who is “coming quickly”, says of himself, “ I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end”. In Rev 1:17-18, Jesus, the one who “became dead, but, look! I am living forever and ever”, refers to himself as the first and the last. Rev 21:6, in speaking of God, says, “...I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end ...”. God is also referred to as the “first” and the “last” in Isa 44:6 and Isa 48:12. How can this be since by definition of these words there can only be one first and one last?

# Jn 1:3 says that Jesus created “all things”, but in Isa 44:24, God says that he “by myself” created the heavens and the earth and asks the question “Who was with me?” when the heavens and the earth were created. How can this be since if Jesus was created by God, then he would have been with God when everything else was created?

# Col 1:16, in talking about Jesus, says that “... All [other] things have been created through him and FOR HIM”. If Jesus was Michael the Archangel at the time of creation, would an angel have created all things for himself? Isa 43:7 says God created “everyone ... for my OWN glory...”.
# The Watchtower Society teaches that the 144,000 of Rev 7:4 is to be taken literally. If chapter 7 of Revelation is to be taken literally, where then does the Bible say that the 144,000 will come from? (See Rev 7:5- 8).

# If the soul is the body, why does Jesus make a distinction between the body and the soul in Mt 10:28?

# The NWT translates Jn 1:1 as “... and the Word was WITH God, and the Word was a god”. How can the Word (Jesus) be “a god” if God says in Deut 32:39, “See now that I-I am he, and there are NO gods together WITH me ...”?

# Jesus Christ is referred to as “Mighty God” in Isa 9:6 (”For there has been a child born to us, there has been a son given to us ... And his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God ...”). Jehovah is referred to as “Mighty God” in Isa 10:20-21. How can this be if there is only one God (1Cor 8:4, Isa 43:10, 44:6)?

# If Jesus was executed on a torture stake, with both hands together over his head, why does Jn 20:25 say “...Unless I see in his hands the print of the nailS ...”, indicating that there was more than one nail used for his hands?

# Jesus uses the phrase “Truly I say to you, ...” over 50 times in the Bible. In the NWT, the comma is placed after the word “you” every time except in Lk 23:43, where the comma is placed after the word “today”. Why is the comma placed after “today” instead of after “you” in this verse? If the translation of this phrase in Lk 23:43 was consistent with the translation of this phrase in all the other verses in which it appears (see concordance), and the comma was placed after the word “you”, how would it read?

# The NWT translates the Greek word “esti” as “is” in almost every instance in the New Testament (Mt 26:18, 38, Mk 14:44, Lk 22:38, etc.). See Greek-English Interlinear. Why does the NWT translate this Greek word as “means” in Mt 26:26-28, Mk 14:22-24, and Lk 22:19? Why the inconsistency in the translation of the word “esti”? If the NWT was consistent and translated the Greek word “esti” as “is” in these verses, what would these verses say?

# In Jn 20:28, Thomas refers to Jesus in Greek as “Ho kyrios moy kai ho theos moy”. This translates literally as “the Lord of me and THE God of me”. Why does Jesus, in Jn 20:29, affirm Thomas for having come to this realization? If Jesus really wasn’t the Lord and THE God of Thomas, why didn’t Jesus correct him for making either a false assumption or a blasphemous statement?

# If Christ will not have a visible return to earth, then how will he be seen by “ALL the tribes of the earth” (Mt 24:30) and by “EVERY eye” (Rev 1:7) when he returns?

# If the Holy Spirit is God’s impersonal active force, how could he: Be referred to as “he” and “him” in Jn 16:7-8 and Jn 16:13-14; Bear witness - Jn 15:26; Feel hurt - Isa 63:10; Be blasphemed against - Mk 3:29; Say things - Ezek 3:24, Acts 8:29, 10:19, 11:12, 21:11, Heb10:15-17, Rev 2:7; Desire - Gal 5:17; Be outraged - Heb 10:29; Search -1Cor 2:10; Comfort - Acts 9:31; Be loved - Rom 15:30 ; Be lied to and be God - Acts 5:3-4?

# What is the meaning of Rev 14:9-11, which says, “... If anyone worships the wild beast ... he shall be tormented with fire and sulphur ... And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever ...”. Where could “anyone” be “tormented ... forever and ever”?

# Jn 1:3 says in reference to Christ, “All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence”. How could Christ have been a created being if ALL things came into existence through him? If Jesus was a created being, then according to Jn 1:3, Jesus would have had to create himself.

# If the spirit of a man has no existence apart from the body, why does Stephen just before his death in Acts 7:59, pray to Jesus to “receive my spirit”? How could Jesus receive Stephen’s spirit if a man’s spirit ceases to exist when the body dies?

# If the great crowd is to have everlasting life on paradise EARTH, why does 1Thess 4:17 say, “...we the living who are surviving will, together with them, be caught away in clouds to MEET THE LORD IN THE AIR; and thus we shall always be with the Lord”?

# If there are 144,000 spirit anointed people who have a heavenly hope, and a great crowd of people who have another hope of everlasting life on paradise earth, why does Paul say that there is only ONE hope (Eph 4:4), instead of two?

# If there is no conscious awareness after death, how could the “spirits in prison” be preached to by Christ after his death (1Pet 3:18-20) and how could the good news be “declared also to the dead” (1Pet 4:6)?

# In Phil 2:9, the NWT inserts the word “other”, even though it doesn’t appear in the original Greek (see Gr-Engl Interlinear). What is the reason for inserting this word? Is the word “Jehovah” a name? See Ex 6:3, Ps 83:18, and Isa 42:8. How would the verse read if the word “other” had not been inserted? What does scripture say about adding words to the Bible? See Prov 30:5-6.

# Heb 9:28, speaking of Christ, says “... and the second time he appears...” How can Christ APPEAR a second time if he will not have a visible return to earth?

# Amos 4:11 says, “’I caused an overthrow among you people, like God’s overthrow of Sodom and Gomorrah. And you came to be like a log snatched out of [the] burning; but you did not come back to me,’ is the utterance of Jehovah.” How can Jehovah speaking in this verse refer to another person as God (”... like GOD’S overthrow of Sodom ...”)?

# In Rev 19:1, where does it say that the “great crowd” will be?

# If Christians are persecuted for the sake of Jehovah’s name, why did Christ tell the first Christians that they would be persecuted for the sake of his (Jesus’) name instead of Jehovah’s (Mt 24:9, Mk 13:13, Lk 21:12, 17, Jn 15:21, and Acts 9:16)?

# In Col 1:15-17, the NWT inserts the word “other” 4 times even though it is not in the original Greek (see Gr-Engl interlinear). Why is the word “other” inserted? How would these verses read if the word “other” had not been inserted?

# In 2Pet 1:1, the NWT inserts the word “the”. Why is it inserted? How would the verse read if the word “the” was not inserted? What does scripture say about adding words to the Bible? (See Prov 30:5-6).

# In the sermon on the mount, when Jesus was addressing the “great crowd” (Lk 6:17), why did he tell them in Lk 6:22-23, “...your reward is great in heaven ...”?

# In Mt 1:23, who is Matthew referring to here that has been given the name which means “With Us Is God”?

# In Rev 14:13, how can the dead be “happy” and find “rest” if there is no conscious awareness after death?

# If Jesus was executed on a torture stake, with both hands together over his head, instead of on a cross with both hands outstretched, why does Mt 27:37 say that the sign “This is Jesus the King of the Jews” was “posted above his HEAD” instead of being posted above his hands? How could it have been posted above his head if his arms were stretched out over his head?

# In Lk 4:12, the NWT translates “kyrios” (Gr-lord) as “Jehovah”, which makes the verse read “... ‘You shall not put Jehovah your God to the test.’” See Gr-Engl Interlinear. Why is kyrios translated as “Jehovah” in this verse? Was the devil, in Lk 4:9-11, putting Jehovah to the test or JESUS to the test?

# The Bible says that ONLY God is our savior (Hos 13:4, Isa 43:11,45:21, etc.). How can it be then, that the Bible repeatedly says that Jesus Christ is our savior (Lk 2:11, Phil 3:20, Tit 2:13, 3:6, 2Pet 1:1, 2:20, 3:18, etc.)?

# Referring to Isa 14:9-17, if there is no conscious
awareness after death, how could Sheol “... become agitated at you in order to meet you on coming in...” (v.9), how could the souls in Sheol “... speak up and say to you...” (v.10-11), how could the souls in Sheol when “...seeing you will gaze even at you; they will give close examination even to you, [saying,] ‘Is this the man’...” (v. 16-17), and how would you be aware that this was happening?

# Heb 3:1 refers to “holy brothers, partakers of the heavenly calling”. In Mk 3:35, Jesus says, “Whoever does the will of God, this one is my brother ...”. Therefore, according to the Bible, whoever does the will of God is a brother of Jesus and a partaker of the heavenly calling. How can this be if the Watchtower Society teaches that only 144,000 people go to heaven?

# Heb 11:16, in speaking about some of the faithful people of the Old Testament (Abel, Noah, Abraham, etc.) says, “But now they are reaching out for a better [place], that is, one belonging to heaven...” and, “... their God for he has made a city ready for them.” The footnote on the word “city” refers to HEAVENLY Jerusalem of Heb 12:22 and Rev 21:2. How can this be since according to the teachings of the Watchtower Society, the only people who will go to heaven are the 144,000 spirit anointed who have been chosen from people who lived after Christ died?

# Rev 20:10 says, “And the Devil ... the wild beast and the false prophet [already were]; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.” Where will the devil, the wild beast, and the false prophet be “tormented day and night forever and ever”?

# In Lk 24:36-39 and in Jn 20:26-27, Jesus showed his disciples the wounds in his body as proof of his resurrection. If Jesus’ body had been destroyed by God after he died, how could Jesus show the disciples his body which had the wounds in his hands, feet, and side and claim that he is not just a spirit, “because a spirit does not have flesh and bones just as you behold that I have” (Lk 24:39)?

# If Christ was created by God and was the wisdom of God (Prov 8:1-4, 12, 22-31), then before Jesus would have been created, God would have had to have been without wisdom. How is it possible that God could have ever been without wisdom?

# Rev 7:11 says that “before the throne” is in heaven where “all the angels were standing”. Rev 14:2-3 says “And I heard a sound out of heaven ... And they were singing as if a new song before the throne ...”. Rev 7:9 says, “... look, a great crowd ... standing before the throne...”. Rev 7:14-15 says, “...There are the ones that come out of the great tribulation ... That is why they are before the throne of God ...”. Therefore, if “before the throne “ means in heaven (Rev 7:11, 14:2-3), and the “great crowd” is “before the throne” (Rev 7:9, 7:14-15), where does that mean that the great crowd will be?

# If Jesus Christ is Michael the Archangel, how can Mt 25:31 say, “When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and ALL the angels with him, ...”. Since “all the angels” would certainly include Michael the Archangel, is it possible that Jesus could return with himself?

# In Lk 20:37-38, how could Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob be “all living to him (God)”, since they all died hundreds of years before Jesus said this?

# If the soul dies when the body dies, how could the “souls” of Rev 6:9- 11, who were of those who had been “slaughtered” (i.e., killed), cry out “with a loud voice, saying: ‘Until when Sovereign Lord ...”?

# In Mt 28:19, Jesus tells his disciples to baptize “people of all the nations ...in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit”. Why would the disciples be instructed to baptize in the name of anybody or anything who was not God? Do Jehovah’s Witnesses follow the command of Jesus and baptize “in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit”?

# If the human soul IS the person, how could the soul go out of a person (Gen 35:18) or come back into a person (1Kings 17:21)?

# The Watchtower Society teaches that the earth will never be destroyed or depopulated. How can it be, then, that God says in Isa 51:6, “... the earth itself will wear out, and its inhabitants will die like a mere gnat ...”, and that Jesus says in Mt 24:35, “Heaven and earth will pass away...”, and that John says in Rev 21:1 that he saw “... a new heaven and a NEW earth, for the former heaven and the FORMER earth had passed away, and the sea is no more.”?

# Referring to Lk 12:4-5, what would be left of a person after they were killed that could be thrown into Gehenna?

# Who or what does the spirit of Christ (Phil 1:19, Gal 4:6, Rom 8:9) refer to? In Gal 4:6, how is it possible that the spirit of Christ could come into our hearts? How is it possible that the spirit of CHRIST could reside in someone? If what the Watchtower Society teaches is true, how could Paul make this statement if Christ was a spirit person residing in heaven?

# In Jn 8:56, Jesus says, “Abraham your father rejoiced greatly in the prospect of seeing my day, and he saw it and rejoiced”. Since Abraham died hundreds of years before Jesus said this, how could Jesus say that Abraham “saw it and rejoiced”, if there is no conscious awareness after death?

# In Jn 6:51, Jesus says that a person must eat “of this bread” in order to “live forever”, and that “the bread that I give IS my flesh”. In Jn 6:63, Jesus says “... Unless you eat the flesh of the son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in yourselves.” In Jn 6:54-55, Jesus says, “He that feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has everlasting life...” and “... for my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink.” Do you partake of the flesh of Christ , as Jesus commanded, in order to have life in yourself and in order to live forever?

# Every true Christian would agree that we should follow the commands of God. In Mk 9:7, God the Father commands us to listen to Jesus. Do you follow this command and listen to Jesus? After all, Jesus died for your personal sins (1Jn 2:2, 1Pet 2:24). Jesus tells us to go directly to him (Mt 11:28-30), and the Father commanded us to listen to Jesus. Why? Because JESUS gives us everlasting life (Jn 10:28), and so that JESUS will enter our house and be with us and give us the right to sit on his throne (Rev 3:20- 21). Do you pray to Jesus as Paul and the early Christians did (1Cor 1:2)? Do you partake of the flesh of Christ as Jesus commanded (Jn 6:51)? If not, then are you following the command of the Father who said “Listen to him”?

>> Anyway, the fact that JW’s suffer so much persecution and hatred must indicate something good about you. Know what I mean? <<

By that same logic, there must be something good about Kali worshippers, skinheads, pedophiles, neonazis, coke addicts, prostitutes, Hare Krishnas, Larouchites, snake handlers, schizophrenics and Larry Sinclair.

Your post was number 144.

The rest are now doomed.

Oh wait, that was 144,000...

Sorry.

Keep posting everyon, oh no, ugggghh!...

ouch...

that’s a great list!!

Ok, let's play a game I call "Who's That Guy?"

In Joshua 5, starting w/ verse 13, we see an interesting dialog between Josh and some person. This person appears to Joshua apparently out of nowhere with a drawn sword. Joshua asks the guy who he is, and this fellow responds that he is "captain of the hosts of the Lord." Upon hearing this, Joshua bows down in worship. Cool stuff, but the following problems start rolling around one's bippy as one reads the encounter:

1. When Joshua bows down in worship, the guy doesn't tell him not to. In other places in the Scriptures where someone bows down to an angel, the angel tells him to knock it off, that only the Lord is worthy of worship. Yet this guy accepts it. Is he an angel? No, because he doesn't rebuke.

2. He can't be a mere man, because of what he says about himself.

3. At one point, he tells Joshua to "take off your sandals, for the ground on which you stand is holy." Whoa. Where have we heard THAT before? (Hint: Charlton Heston? Yul Brynner?)

4. But he can't be YHWH, because nobody can see Him and live. Even the prophets had to hide from Him.

So the question is: Who's the Guy?"

Poor JW's fail to realize two things: 1) There is a term called "a theophany," which is a pre-Incarnate appearance of Jesus the Messiah. They dot the Scriptural landscape, and they're an example of God showing His mercy to people. But since JW's don't believe that Jesus is Lord, how can He accept worship? 2) Their theology (that Jesus isn't God, wasn't or isn't Lord, that he is an angel/created being/yaddayaddayadda) is a rehash of the old Arian heresey. This Arius guy went around in Constantine's time telling people that Jesus wasn't God, and upsetting their salvation. (If He's not God and just a man, then how can He be a mediator between God and man? The Scripture say the Messiah is BOTH.) One of the things hashed out at the Council at Nice was just who this Jesus was: just a guy, a super-guy, or God in the flesh. They scoured the scriptures, prayed a lot, and declared that Jesus was the last one: Fully man and Fully God, capable of saving us all.

Except that Arius and his followers tried to disrupt the proceedings. At one point, Arius, like a Code Pink protester, got up and started singing one of his songs about how Jesus is a cool guy and all, but not God. Arius was clocked by none other than Nicolas, Bishop of Myra (I think) who, with his friends and fellow bishops, had been through enough persecutions to listen to this clown. The JW's have been duped, trading their souls for a salvation that won't save, because their Jesus can't save, and all the poor Greek translations won't change that.

No JW has ever been able to explain who The Guy in Joshua is. They don't come around my porch anymore. I pity them, not only because they believe in a false Jesus, but because they don't have the intellectual cajones to read up and question the Watchtower. Instead, they blindly follow whatever the successors of Judge Rutherford say, bleating like sheep until they fall off the edge of the cliff.

You have my pity.

Oh wait, that was 144,000...

And I thought the Hobbit Hole was painful...

Good questions.

And as long as we're asking questions, perhaps we can ask these....

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Posted on Monday, December 21, 2009 12:59:30 PM by CondoleezzaProtege

1. Can you find me archeological and historical proof from non-Mormon sources that prove that the peoples and places named in the Book of Mormon are true?

2. Why does the Book of Mormon state that Jesus was born in Jerusalem (Alma 7:10) when history and the Bible state that he was born in Bethlehem (Matthew 2:1)?

3. I’ve read where Joseph Smith said that he translated the golden plates (from which he got the Book of Mormon) letter-by-letter, “by the power of God” and that it was “the most correct of any book on earth." If that’s true why has the Mormon Church had to make more than 4,000 changes to the Book of Mormon that was originally published in 1830?

4. Why do the Bible verses quoted in the Book of Mormon contain the italicized words from the King James Version that were added into the KJV text by the translators in the 16th and 17th centuries?

Here’s an example: 3 Nephi 24:10 says: “...that there shall not be room enough to receive it...” This is an exact quote from Malachi 3:10 from the King James Version. What’s amazing is that seven of these words were not part of the original text. They were added by the KJV translators for clarity. How did those words end up in the Book of Mormon that was supposedly written over a thousand years before the King James Version of the Bible?

5. Isaiah 43:10 says, "Before Me there was no God formed, and there will be none after Me." In Isaiah 44:6, God says, "There is no God besides Me." In light of what is said here, how can worthy Mormon males become Gods in the afterlife when God already said that before him no God was formed, nor will there be any Gods formed after Him?

6. Why do Mormons say that Jesus and Lucifer are spirit brothers when both the first chapter of John 1:1-3 and Colossians 1:16 teach that Jesus is the creator of all things, including Lucifer?

7. I read where Brigham Young, the second president of the LDS Church, taught that both the moon and the sun were inhabited by people (Journal of Discourses, 1870, v.13, p.271). Has the Mormon Church ever found scientific evidence of that to be true?

8. I read in Doctrine and Covenants 84:1-5 where Joseph Smith prophesied that the New Jerusalem and a temple would be built in Zion, Missouri in his generation. Does the Mormon Church still teach that Joseph Smith was a true prophet of God after he made a false prophecy?

9. I read where Brigham Young taught that Adam is “our Father and our God” (Journal of Discourses, Apr. 9, 1852, vol.1, p.50). How can that be true when both the Bible and the Book of Mormon (Mormon 9:12) say that Adam was a creation of God?

10. If Brigham Young was a true prophet, why would one of your later prophets overturn his declaration which stated that the black man could never hold the priesthood in the LDS Church until after the resurrection of all other races (Journal of Discourses, Dec. 12, 1854, 2:142-143)?

11. Read Deuteronomy 18:20-22. Since the Bible’s test to determine whether someone is a true prophet of God is 100% accuracy in all his prophecies has the LDS Church ever reconsidered its teaching that Joseph Smith and Brigham Young were true prophets?

12. In the last couple of years, Mormon scholars, and scientists have discovered powerful DNA evidence that has proven that the American Indians are not descendants of the Jewish race (as the Book of Mormon claims in its introduction), but the Asian race. How does your church respond to this scientific evidence?

13. Why did Joseph Smith condone polygamy as an ordinance from God (Doctrine and Covenants 132 [see v. 38-39]) when the Book of Mormon had already condemned the practice in the book Jacob 1:15 and 2:24?

Most, including me have read down to about the first ten posts or so and then make a comment. One must read all the way down to the last posts to really see the comedy and cleverness here. LOL

At least there is no killer rabit...

“He rose 3 days later”

Oh yee of little understanding. Woe unto them that listen but do not hear. Verily I say unto you, Friday to Saturday is one day. And thereafter Saturday to Sunday is two Days. So Christ rose ON the Third day as it is writteneth in the holy scriptures. You blaspheme the risen Lord with this “3 days later” heresy. ;)

Really when you think about it - it might have only been about 36 hours. 36 hours that must have seemed like Eternity.

Have you noticed that Annieup has not responded to these post? I think she is out going door to door now.

When I was Mormon, we had some neighbors/friends who were JW. During the summer we would all go down to the pool area, have a BBQ, and debate our respective religions.

Needless to say, it was a blast, even when (or especially) the debate got heated.

You just wasted a lot of space if you believe that Annieup is going to read your post.