ikeonic: Victim of Palin Zot

Ikeonic ^ | 12/5/2009 | Ikeonic

[ikeonic]

Sarah's explanation of why she legitimized the birther conspiracy theorists feeds right into her victimhood storyline:

Voters have every right to ask candidates for information if they so choose. I’ve pointed out that it was seemingly fair game during the 2008 election for many on the left to badger my doctor and lawyer for proof that Trig is in fact my child. Conspiracy-minded reporters and voters had a right to ask … which they have repeatedly.

Ah yes... Palin was a victim of a massive left wing conspiracy that forced her to courageously step down as Alaska's governor.  So it's only fair (to her mind) that Obama be hounded by an equally loony right wing conspiracy -- the birthers.  Well, you just can't argue with logic like that!

Rick Moran at Pajamas Media takes Palin to task and then some.  Here's a sample:

I note that some Palin fans are trying to spin the fact that she never called on the president to produce his birth certificate or questioned his citizenship. They are missing the point. Sarah Palin has said that these questions are legitimate, that voters have a right to know, and that “a lot” of citizens are concerned about it.

She didn’t say what any rational person on the right or left believes: that questions about the president’s birth have been settled by the state of Hawaii, that only a very small group of citizens are even concerned about the issue, and that an equally small number of people were even aware of the ridiculous controversy over Trig’s origins.

Moran continues:

Those who are tempted to say that Sarah Palin’s attempt to legitimize the birther movement will destroy her campaign should forget it. It will never happen. She is immunized against such career-ending gaffes by her loyal followers who don’t want to listen to anyone when they criticize, laugh, or beat their heads against a wall over the latest evidence that as presidential material Palin would make a good candidate for the mayor of Wasilla.

The problem is, unless the GOP — and that includes Rush Limbaugh and the other cotton candy conservatives who wield a lot of influence — stand up and denounce her in no uncertain terms, birtherism will have gone completely mainstream in the Republican Party. If that happens, you might want to forget about any significant gains at the polls for the GOP in 2010.

By her stupidity, she is now going to force every GOP candidate for the House and Senate to come out and declare whether they are birther nuts or not.

Indeed.  Read the whole story here.

The only reason I bother these days to post anything about Palin is merely to declare that I rue the day McCain ever picked her as his running mate (stupidest decision of his adult life) and pray that someday soon she will return to Alaska and disappear.  Palin is the poison pill that threatens to sink the entire GOP and I refuse to take that pill and go down with her. 

I'm not going to hold my nose and vote for Palin.  I can not go to my grave with that vote on my conscience.  It was bad enough holding my nose and voting for her to be one heartbeat away from the Presidency.  If she is our nominee in 2012 or 2016 or 20xx, I will vote for a third party or none of the above.  If she's all we got, then we deserve to lose.  It's that simple.

Now some might call me hypocritical for supporting Palin while she was the nominee.  True enough... but I'll leave it to Chuckles Johnson to offer up an explanation for anything I wrote in support of Palin last year:

Says Chuckles: "I was skeptical of her, but I was ready to defend her, because it was hyper-partisan time."

On that much, I'll agree with Chuckles -- and I agree with little Chuckles has to say these days.  In hyper-partisan mode, I too said a lot of things to defend Palin.  I swallowed hard and praised her just as I know it pained others to praise McCain during the campaign. 

But once the election was over, I pulled few punches with Palin.  Just as every RINO hating social conservative wasted no time in spouting their hatred for McCain once the election was over.  I was always a McCain supporter (and wish he'd beat Bush in 2000), but never liked Palin for anything other than her ability to regurgitate sound bites (more like bait) to appeal to the base. 

I always preferred Pawlenty and think McCain would have been far better served to lose with honor with Pawlenty at his side than to throw a Hail Mary with Palin and unknowingly launch the career of the all but certain destructor of the modern day GOP.  In the end, the shadow of Sarah Palin may well drawf all the good McCain accomplished in the US Senate.

[McGruff]

I vote

[ikeonic]

Perhaps you could point us to an actual federal statute and procedure that allows what was done to her as governor to be done to a U.S. President.

Conversely, maybe you'd like to show me the federal statutes that prohibit what she says was done to her as governor...

I'm sure the Clintons would be intrigued to know what protections they had. If you think Clinton was hounded during his Presidency, to listen to Palin she'll be hounded exponentially more if she's elected President. Listening to her talk, I have no reason to believe she'd be able to govern because she'd spend her entire Presidency fighting phony lawsuits and other attacks.

[RatsDawg]

ZOT worthy?

[jessduntno]

after her book tour and after hell freezes over and she is elected, the resources will be there...just how stupid are you?

[MNJohnnie]

It is not hero worship, it is a rational defense against this sort of rabid, irrational, personal attack politics.

Read the 1st 3 paragraphs. This author is not making a single rational argument against Palin, he merely is attacking her on a personal level simply because he does not like her.

It the exact same sort of gutter slime attack dog posting you see on Leftist blogs. I expect much better of anyone trying to claim the "Conservative" label.

If he dropped the invective and made a calm, factual, reasoned case for his views, I might take him seriously. Unfortunately he seems incapable of such rational debate tactics.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Again, if her solution to her problems as governor was to RESIGN and QUIT, then how will she deal with the far greater level of smears and attacks if she is elected PRESIDENT?

Typical Palin basher.
You conveniently ignore the responses on this thread that factually explained her decision to resign, INCLUDING A QUOTE FROM HER BOOK, but you keep repeating the "quitter" meme. The old repeat a lie often enough BS. You're not going to change anyone's minds here.

Further, if any Democrat (or RINO) resigned as governor of their state, then made all the excuses Sarah is making and then ran for President in 2012, then all you Palinistas would be the first to jump their case for quitting as governor.

It depends on the circumstances. ROFL

But your blind passionate support for Palin won't let you see the handwriting on the wall. She is a QUITTER and a whiny victim, plain and simple. Throwing a "Going Rogue" bumper sticker on that bus doesn't change the fact that she quit and abandoned Alaska.

Even if she did "quit" and "abandoned Alaska", you wouldn't support her anyway. She would have been buried alive in those frivolous ethics charges and by the time 2010 rolled around, you and the rest of the establishment would be saying "See, she's scandal-plagued! She can't run a state without being sued!" I'm glad she quit and she's had a far greater impact than had she stayed in Juneau. So go get bent

Side note: I'm also a Jindal supporter

I don't give a damn who you support because your credibility is undermined by bashing the only Republican who is actively working to defeat Obama's agenda.

[CalTexan]

Hey ikeonic, you are a Rino at best.

We don’t need your liberal opinion.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

The thing that make me most uncomfortable is the whole hero worship aspect.

There is no "worshiping" of Sarah.
Conservatives finally see someone like us who is out there fighting to prevent America from turning into a 3rd world dumpster. Is it not OK for us to cheer her on and join her in battle?
If everyone supported their favorite candidate, then the worshiping label should also apply. That includes supporters of Pawlenty, Romney, etc.
I supposed conservatives in 1980 were worshiping Reagan too?

[jessduntno]

Hey stoopit;

I said;
...she was being personally attacked and sued and immobilized by aholes like you and she did not have the resources to defend herself...she was PERSONALLY in debt up to her neck and couldn’t cope financially with the debt or the time consuming task of trying to deal with the liberal onslaught with no money...after her book tour and after hell freezes over and she is elected, the resources will be there...

Then YOU said;
Again, if her solution to her problems as governor was to RESIGN and QUIT, then how will she deal with the far greater level of smears and attacks if she is elected PRESIDENT?

So, now we have established that you either don’t read or comprehend, and that my prior observation is true...you are an idiot...or, more l;ikely, a livberal ahole who mysteriously gets his jollies with this shit;

“Side note: I’m also a Jindal supporter and wish he’d resign as governor and Go ROUGE.. as in Baton Rouge...”

My guess is you are also an athletic supporter...your primary duty is to help protect nuts...your halfassed ideas aren’t passing the liberal sniff test and your refusal to answer anything but with the same liberal BS is very tellng...

[Gator113]

Obviously just another drooling lib Obama voter.

It seems that you would want folks to respond to your tripe with opposing arguments. All that would do is give you even more of a platform to entertain yourself and spread your lib views and talking points.

Your Blog pimping has not gone unnoticed and as you ‘should’ see, it’s not appreciated by most.

I suspect that you won’t be around here much longer and that you will need to take your public masturbation to some other playground. It has been said that such behavior can make one blind.... it seems that in your case, the warning may have very well been true.

IBTZ

[MNJohnnie]

You know, your post has to be one of the most excessively STUPID posting every posted here. In a board with such a long rich history, that is a MAJOR accomplishment.

Your post is ultra, completely mega stupid. We will have to come up with a whole new classification of stupid to adequately address your level of idiocy. World Record Stupid! Rock hard dehydrated stupid! Lifetime Achievement Stupid! So stupid it MUST be a lost fragment of the primordial soup from with all imbeciles since have sprung. It sets a whole new standard by which stupidity will be judged from now on!

Quick, call the Nobel Committee. We have to establish a whole new Nobel Prize for World Record Stupidity just so this poster can be award it!!!

I applaud your courage. Most people attempt to hide their moronic natures but not YOU. NO, you FLAUNT your morondom. You proudly cruise the Internet squealing “I AM THE WORLDS LARGEST IDIOT”. I must say I have NEVER seen anyone so willing to make peace with a painful personal truth as you have embraced your imbecility.

Well done brave soul!

[jafojeffsurf]

But for one major thing. We are suppose to be a country ruled by laws and if we start to pick and choose which laws will be followed and which are not without changing them. Then there is no country because standards are then run on emotions and not truth.
Yes, all the leaders should be speaking of this for it is a Law set forth by the original document that forms this country. If we are to ignore this then what else is to be ignored on a whim? The simple fact this question is out there show the disrespect many have for their Constitutional duty.
This question should have been address over a year ago.

[Josh Painter]

QUIT QUIT QUITTER QUIT,
ikeonic is another moderate nitwit;
With his DNC talking points and Rick Moran quotes,
Beware of liberals under moderate cloaks.

- JP

[Yaelle]

[McCain] unknowingly launch the career of the all but certain destructor of the modern day GOP.

One hopes this did happen.

Our [McCain-style] RINO GOP was already serving as the USA's Scared Loser Party. "Pleeeeeez vote for us?? We are compassionate! We reach across the aisle! We are not REAL convervatives! Pleeeeeez vote for us? We LOVE Pelosi and we LOVE dinner parties! We are compassionate! We worship minorities! We loooove illegals! We are just like you, liberals! Vote for us!"

[toddausauras]

Article ignored,

Palin 2012.

For consevatives who trash Sarah: Hopefully you will join us when she wins the nomination.

[SmokingJoe]

What is an ikeonic?
Is it as moronic as a Rick Moran?
It would appear to be so.
Thew two idiots need to get a bed together somewhere.

[ikeonic]

The birth certificate, rightly or wrongly, has been painted a kook fringe issue. There is no upside for a politician to discuss it.

Nailed it.

The thing that make me most uncomfortable is the whole hero worship aspect. It's become the flip side of Obama worship.

Again, you nailed it. Love the blog by the way...

To further your point, Palin was picked by McCain for EXACTLY the reasons you list above. Palin was supposed to be the GOP answer to Obamania -- our own unqualified, not quite ready identity politics answer. I said as much in September 2008. The base bought it hook, line and sinker.

The more of us like Rick Moran, Cal Thomas and Jonah Goldberg that speak out on Palin, the more vile reaction we'll get -- but in the end, we must face the ugly truth about Palin. She ain't Reagan, she ain't Maggie Thatcher and she is not going to save the GOP... she can only destroy it. Or best case scenario she'll just go rogue and QUIT again... :)