Posted on 12/04/2009 9:55:41 PM PST by Gordon Greene
Arguing with Idiots… Part Deaux (A full-frontal assault on the Temple of Darwin) (Link to PDF).
(I know I’ve done rants like this before, but you guys are worth it!)
Dear worshippers of Darwin and lovers of self,
My personal (condensed) declaration of faith:
I believe in the God of the Bible. I believe in the Bible. I believe what it says. I believe, unashamedly that God is the Creator of the Universe and that He created it just as described in the Genesis account. I believe the only way to receive salvation is to believe and receive Jesus Christ as your savior. I believe that if you do not accept Jesus as your savior then you will spend eternity in the lake of fire, created for Satan and his followers… separated forever from God.
My personal (condensed) declaration of allegiance to American values:
I believe that the founding Fathers had faith in and worshipped the God of the Bible. I believe the Founders trusted God and the laws of God to be a guide and to provide the framework for what would become the United States of America. I believe that the Founders incorporated those values into our founding documents including the Constitution and Declaration of Independence. I believe that very same Godly, Biblical foundation is what has sustained us as a nation for over 200 years. I believe the same is why this nation has been blessed beyond any other nation in history. I believe forsaking those principles is what is plunging this country headlong into socialism. I believe if we, as a people do not turn back to God and to His truth, this great nation has seen its best days.
Now, my message to the evolutionists and atheists on freerepublic…
You continually disgrace and shame yourselves and this site by purposely attempting to offend those who believe in God and Creation and frankly, I'm amazed it has gone on this long. The honest debate over differences of opinion are welcome on this site (correct me if I’m wrong) but even more-so the promotion of the God-centered foundation of our country and government. Yet you make it a playground for your near-pornographic display of anti-Christian rhetoric. Do I and others respond in an other-than kind way from time to time? Absolutely! That's what people do when you offer a constant barrage of insults and deliver responses dripping with hollow, moral superiority. Like many, I tried at first to reason with you. I found that there is no reasoning with the true-believers in the Temple of Darwin (with rare exception, I must note). So I barb… it’s my way of dealing with it.
From time to time one of you may pretend to seek an honest argument or answer only to turn it into a battle of context, performing hopeless and pointless contortions of the English language. Your mental gymnastics are generally childlike and wholly unnecessary. All you would have to do is to say you don’t have the mental capacity to understand the argument and that would be that… but that is not your goal.
You have this sick wish to see those who literally interpret the Bible and faithful Christians into converts of the radical wing of the Temple of Darwin or, at the very least to make an example of their comments (unsuccessfully, as a general rule). Then you can take their replies to your Darwin’s Temple websites and display them in the midst of those ungodly freak shows.
Earlier, I was questioned as to whether it was fair of me to say that you lead children into hell. My question is, “Is it fair of you to do so?” In my estimation, that’s exactly what you’re doing when you shove your unfounded faith in dry bones down the throats of schoolchildren. You claim we have nothing on which to base our faith in God and Creation, yet I suggest to you there is no evidence of evolution in the way that you teach and believe it… no proof of inter-species evolution taking place and no evidence that life was formed in a way that disputes the Biblical account. There is much more circumstantial evidence in the Creation account in Genesis than what you place your faith in, yet that is not my primary argument this evening.
Here’s the beef: most of you troll posts with a religious bent for the express purpose of inserting chaos into the equation. In that, you are no better than the community organizers at ACORN. You attempt to confuse, divide, destroy and deride those who believe your religion to be false. Yet, your religion is more than false; it rises to the level of cult. Its followers are brainwashed by manufactured statistics as if Al Gore himself were beating on the pulpit, loudly testifying to the dangers of non-belief. And you not only believe the lies, you are some of its chief priests!
Like the climate mongers and the climatologists at CRU, your actions do have consequences. However, the disastrous effects of your insidious message are far more devastating than the physical and monetary cost of the climate hoax. Your target is the soul of man. Since the dawning of the Age of Darwinism, millions of men, women and children have fallen victim, maybe even you. And for those who claim to be Christian and evolutionists, I offer this from one of my recent responses…
“If you draw evolution out to its ultimate end it either:
A. Denies the existence of God.
B. Denies His relevance.
C. Boils the Word of God down to a collection of allegory.
Unlike a lot of folks that share my beliefs in God and Creation, I don’t believe that faith in evolution automatically excludes you from Christianity. People are in different stages of their walk and some find the truth more slowly than others but that doesn’t mean they aren’t saved. But if you follow the (il)logic of evolution very far, it discounts faith in the God of the Bible.”
That is to say most would have to conclude from studying Evolution that God does not exist. Being a priest and a disseminator of the gospel of Evolution is no different than being in a sinking ship and destroying the only life preserver because you believe if you can’t have it, no one else should.
If you were honest with yourselves you would admit there is no honest scientific evidence proving evolution. Most of you have heard the truth of the Bible and chosen to reject it. I personally believe (again… my personal belief) that you and those who promote the baseless theory of evolution will be judged by God for leading others to discount God as well.
Matthew 18:6 (New International Version)
6But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
2 Timothy 3:16 (New International Version)
16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
Romans 1:22 (New International Version)
22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools
Exodus 20:11 (New International Version)
11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.
John 1:3 (New International Version)
3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
2 Chronicles 7:14 (New International Version)
7If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.
Pot, kettle. Kettle, pot. Got it.
Since you are squeeling about it you don't apprecite it either. I didn't expect you two to have so much in common... (How are you doing on learning that Rosary?)
I don’t deny that there’s anti-Catholic bigotry on FR.
“Since you are squeeling about it”
Squealing is my word for the night, Buck. And if you’re going to use it refer to my previous post so you can at least spell it.
Ah, so we’re employing the “No True Scotsman” variant of the definition of Christian, I see.
What kind of scientist are you?
You make assumptions about things that you have no proof for.
You refuse to provide sources and links to back up blanket statements you make about things.
For all the evolutionists whine about *mountains of evidence* you have provided none.
I sure hope that you practice science better than you debate on FR and that nobody’s life depends on your scientific prowess.
Been there, done that. Don't need to any more.
Pay attention, I am only going to post this once. To "squeal" means to make a noise. To "squeel" means to tattle..... (what a maroon).
Speaking of maroons,.......
Would you care to provide a link to the dictionary, any dictionary, that provides the definition for the word *squeel*?
Impact, scale, subject matter, time of authorship, depth or length are not relevent to whether something is accurate.
There is no evidence for any or anyone’s divinity.
The Bible, in Numbers 21:25-26, describes Moses attacking and taking the Ammonite city of Heshbon. Archeology shows that there was no such settlement, let along a city, prior to 1200 BC and would not have been around during Moses’ life.
“Since you are squeeling about it you don’t apprecite it either. “
Dearest Buck (it’s interesting you didn’t notice I called you that in post #183, Buck),
(This is in response to your post, #187)
Even though the context belies your “quick... look it up!” dictionary definition, I’ll take it for granted you could have meant metmom was “tattling” on you for God knows what.
What do you have for me concerning the word, ‘apprecite’? Is it some sort of undiscovered mineral?
You criticize science for supposedly thinking that it has all the answers and then, when the absurd unreality of such a claim is pointed out, criticize them admitting that they don’t know everything and ridiculing their attempts to aquire knowledge.
Ever considered that your arguments lack cohesion?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=squeel
“Would you care to provide a link to the dictionary, any dictionary, that provides the definition for the word *squeel*?”
Squeel (Onomatopoeia):
The sound idiots make when they can’t think of anything else to say.
How ludicrous to claim that just because they haven't found something yet, it means that it didn't exist.
Archaeology can show no such thing. It can show if something DID exist by finding the remains, but can't show that something didn't exist because it didn't find the remains.
Honestly, if this is what passes for logic and reasoning by evolutionists, it's no wonder they think that the ToE is watertight.
I’ve yet to conjure up such a story. There isn’t enough evidence to support any of the theories at present. Science will happily and honestly admit to that.
You have conured yours.
Why don't you look it up in the dictionary I linked to. It references you right after tattletale.
I’m not the one claiming that science has all the answers or can even find them.
The whole point that you ignored was that the criticism of creationists for believing in a supernatural entity is hypocritical in light of the fact that the same scientists who criticize that have NOTHING better to offer.
This one is too priceless to not share....
The urbandictionary?!?!?!?!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
And just where did you get that science degree?
K-Mart?
“There isn’t enough evidence to support any of the theories at present. Science will happily and honestly admit to that.”
In light of most of the evolutionists claims on this site, that statement is without merit. “Science” rarely admits to being wrong about anything. What world do you live in where science, schools, documentaries, the government and scientists do not claim that evolution theory is 100% verifiable? I certainly have never seen that world.
The textbooks are written around it and and legislation is drafted on the premise.
If you live there, then I respect you more than you know. But judging from your use of the word “conured?” I don’t believe you do.
“How ludicrous to claim that just because they haven’t found something yet, it means that it didn’t exist.”
We know where the city of Heshbon is. As you dig down thrugh the settlement layers you’ll arrive at the Bronze Age. What you’ll find there is virgin dirt on top of bed rock. Cities leave traces. There are none.
“Archaeology can show no such thing. It can show if something DID exist by finding the remains, but can’t show that something didn’t exist because it didn’t find the remains.”
Don’t be ridiculous.
“Honestly, if this is what passes for logic and reasoning by evolutionists, it’s no wonder they think that the ToE is watertight.”
And you know that the archeologists where evolutionists how exactly?
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