Posted on 11/09/2009 4:04:32 PM PST by ikeonic
It's time for a policy change in the American military. "Don't ask, don't tell" may have seemed like a good compromise in 1993 but makes no sense in a post 9/11 world where the average soldier worries far more about getting fragged by an al Qaeda sympathizer in their platoon than whether their bunkmate is a little light in their government issued boots.
This report from ABC news should make your jaw drop:
U.S. intelligence agencies were aware months ago that Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan was attempting to make contact with people associated with al Qaeda, two American officials briefed on classified material in the case told ABC News. According to the officials, the Army was informed of Hasan's contact, but it is unclear what, if anything, the Army did in response.Joe Lieberman is appropriately jumping to conclusions and demanding answers despite our dear Leader's warning not to. Yes, Obama only advocates jumping to conclusions when saying that a white cop "acted stupidly".
On Sunday, Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) called for an investigation into whether the Army missed signs as to whether Hasan was an Islamic extremist.Sorry, President Obama, I'm going to jump to conclusions here and I agree 100% with Joe Lieberman."If Hasan was showing signs, saying to people that he had become an Islamist extremist, the U.S. Army has to have a zero tolerance," Lieberman told Fox News Sunday.
In my opinion, any soldier who professes sympathy for the enemy or tries to contact the enemy should be immediately dishonorably discharged. If the Army was squeamish about kicking Hasan out when he practically begged to be kicked out, something is wrong and there needs to be a full investigation of Army policy.
If we've tolerated "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" for 16 years, surely we can justify swiftly discharging terrorist sympathizers within the ranks. Last I checked, there haven't been any terrorist attacks by gay or lesbian soldiers. To quote Barry Goldwater, "You don't need to be straight to fight and die for your country. You just need to shoot straight [at the enemy, that is.]"
It's time to scrap "Don't Ask, Don't Tell". The gay and lesbian people of the world are not at war with America. But radical, extreme Islam is most certainly at war with America and the military should not tolerate anyone who openly sympathizes with the enemy. Besides, does anyone really think any soldier at Fort Hood's biggest fear is getting fragged by a gay or lesbian?
Only the most homophobic person would conclude that gays in the military pose a greater threat than the next Hasan who comes unhinged and puts his extremist beliefs into action. Besides, allowing gays and lesbians serve in the military might serve as a deterrent to radical jihadis like Hasan since they openly hate gays. Muslim countries routinely condemn gays to death. Do we really care if the imams in Iran will hate us more if we allow gays in the military? They'll chant "Death to America! Death to Israel!" no matter what we do so it's silly to try to appease them in any way.
So I call on the military to give gays and lesbians a chance to serve. Kick the terrorist sympathizers out.
Who, exactly, is suggesting that? Gays are not bared from the military.
As for the dangers, while it is silly to equate the two of them, how many Americans are dead because of our politically correct response to aids, and how many are dead because of our politically correct response to Islam?
Should we actually be using our stupidity in one arena to try to justify acting stupidly in another?
When that flight attendant w/ the lovely blue skin splotches was flying all over the country deliberately infecting as many people as possible it was an act of love - just like Ft. Hood.
And before anyone goes off, no I’m not suggesting that gays are dangerous extremists the likes of the psycho-chiatrist. I’m saying the gay agenda and the Muslim agenda are BOTH dangerous and will take this country to places we do not want to go. To not recognize that is, quite frankly, moronic and ignorant.
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Amen!
To even suggest that the 'gay agenda' is a bigger danger to America than radical Islam is, quite frankly, moronic and ignorant.
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Although, quite frankly, if I had written this I would be relieved if someone had posted it incorrectly.
Anti-Obama Sarcasm Torpedo ARMED.
Obama's fault: "To the Muslims, I say, uhh..., that I will blow them, should the ...um, political winds shift in an ugly direction." /sarc>
Cheers!
You need to re-read what I wrote, in my original posts and subsequent ones. No one is denying radicalism is a threat. But to even suggest the radical gay agenda is even remotely close to radical Islam is insane, moronic and ignorant.
...oh. Don't tell me *that's* what happened to Mullah Omar.
Cheers!
Why bother waiting to enlist them? /sarc> Cheers!
Agreed
everyone in the military I know and vets including me are fed up of the PC crap and now they want us to see open homosexuals skipping around or seeing two guys fooling around in the shower
well no chance, moral is already low because of how this POS is treating us and having homosexuals in will only make it worse.
Only a person who has not been in the service would argue for something like this or someone who is a pervert
DRAFT ALL gays and lesbians and put them directly on the front lines. They’re pissed off enough, they’ll be able to fight. Just make sure they have ipods and can listen to Pet Shop Boys while they kill and get killed.
and also, just think what diseases they can pass along to all the afghan herd animals.
LOL
agreed there on your sarc
it’s a stupid argument to make.
if homosexuals want to serve then they have what they want
. it is their own private business is it not , I mean they tell us this all the time so why the hell are they complaining about don’t ask when don’t ask say keep it your own private business ?
This is not about homos in the military this is about another segment of this country being forced to accept their agenda.
WORSE!... These DEGENERATES not only threaten our Military but the very values of our entire society. If you want to serve this country - Rather you OWN INTEREST - then SHUT UP and serve your country... But of course, that is not the idea, right?
Lets get ready people to pressure our weasels to stand up for the Military. When they risk their very lives for us, we own then better.
I read it. I do not need to reread it. You need to reread what I wrote. The two are both threats - they are very different threats - but substantial threats none the less.
I challenge you to go get some numbers. I would wager that infected non gays dead from aids exceeds all of our civilians killed by terrorist attacks and all of our troops killed in middle east wars, and I’ll even throw in Kuwait. How do you suppose THAT happened?
I’m sorry, but making the AIDS/Radical Islam comparison is crazy.
It seems like a tremendous non sequitur.
Exactly the point of many responding here on this thread. One has nothing to do with the other. But as long as we are counting:
Iraq: 4359
Afganistan: 900+
Gulf War: 379 (coalition deaths, not just US)
9/11: 2993
Total: 8631
ONE category - prenatal US aids infections thru 2007: 8434
Wow. My bad. The gay agenda is no threat at all.
You agreed with the article. The article drew a comparison to suggest a change in policy towards gays. Now you say that to draw a comparison is crazy.
To draw a comparison to suggest that BOTH the homosexual agenda and the Islamic agenda are dangerous is real and valid.
To draw a comparison to suggest, as I said before, that we act stupidly with one problem because we are acting stupidly with another is crazy.
I’m sorry
Agreed.
Ok, now you’re just crazy. I shall pray for you.
>>> “However, I’m all for dropping pink camo paratroopers in Tehran. It would be like Jesse Owens at the Berlin Olympics.” <<<
Ha! If the United States army, filled with plain old infidels, gays AND women, parachuted into a Middle Eastern nation, I think the entire region would die from one, giant, mass stroke. We wouldn’t even have to fire a shot!
And you are intentionally ignorant.
On behalf of the military I’ll say: If you cannot stand the sound of the big guns get off the main deck.
Translation: If you don’t have the conviction to defend your views or the integrity to admit your error don’t bother posting.
I thank you for your prayers. Perhaps you can ask that I am less harsh and direct with those who lack conviction and/or integrity. I’ll pray you gain both.
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