Posted on 10/15/2009 2:13:26 PM PDT by Danae
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... What is a Natural Born Citizen? ...
§ 212. Citizens and natives. The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country. -Emer Vattel (English language version, Law of Nations (1797) Book I, c.19, § 212 http://www.constitution.org/vattel/vattel.htm http://home.earthlink.net/~dybel/Documents/LawOfNations,Vattel.htm#I-%C2%A7212
Who is Emer Vattel? He wrote the book "Law of Nations" which was originally published in France in 1758. ...
************** There is a great deal more in the article at the link.
(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...
Oh—I get it. Don’t forget to “clock in” !
Right?
That’s almost clever, problem is we’re not in 8th grade anymore.
parsy and bucky, who think sarcasm is the best way to be a good liarbut dont realize its the best way to get caught
The example of Obama is clearly the reason for the provision.
He has presented himself as a “World Citizen”. People who voted for him expressed joy over the fact that he was a multinational. This is Exactly why the provision was drafted. To exclude his kind.
We also have to be honest about this. He is in violation of our laws, and we are being damaged by his lack of loyalty to our nation. This is no longer a game. The damage is real. We are heading to 20 percent real unemployment. This is destroying peoples lives.
The sooner the man is removed, the better. The law must be enforced.
Liz Baby! He is a fake thespian.
My girlfriend, Morgan Fairchild, told me. Yeah, that’s it! That’s the ticket.
I wasn’t referring to standing. I was referring to the court where Quo Warrento must be brought. It can only be heard in one specific court. In DC itself.
And I promise to be demure and modest on this forum.....really.
Are you Dianna Cotter ?
(the author)
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Yep!
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Wow ... fan .. dam .. tas .. tic!!!
Congratulations on an superbly
written piece !! Woo Hoo! Could
be another famous FReeper author.
Is Ken Dunbar someone we would know ?
Sure. But some people think the only remedy is via Quo Warranto. It isn’t. Anyone can challenge a wrong against the text of the Constitution.
They realized being the son of Malcolm X would've cleared up Obama's eligibility issues.
*applause*
Shades of Chester Arthur, right? Didn't he use his "purported" Canadian birth as a smokescreen, when the real issue was that the Vermont-born Arthur had a father who wasn't an American citizen when he was born?
I remember being taught in school what a natural born citizen was (in terms of qualification for POTUS). I can't believe this is no longer being taught.
Hey Diddle Diddle..
Barry makes us fiddle..
When will we see the BC?
Our enemies laugh because we’ve been duped,
And the commies run away with the country..
“Apparently you dont get that his frenchmans book contains much of the language that is IN the constitution. It is one of the SOURCES of the constitution. Starting to get a clue yet?”
He is either obtuse and can’t “get it”, or is stubborn and refuses to accept the obvious. Don’t have high expectations of fools.
Cool — there it is. What you have posted gives the petitioners standing and the court jurisdiction. Judge Carter sees this Obama is toast.
For sure he is a hella researcher and he is walking the talk. I had not heard of him before digging through Leo’s site. We really only started emailing last night.
He is someone I will be keeping an eye on, he really has a very good grasp of whats going on and the research to back it up.
As for famous FReeper... pshaw I will believe that when I see it LOL I just want the truth to get out!
It's really incredible, isn't it? The amount of disbelief that one must suspend in order to buy this stuff. I really came to the conclusion when they were trying to explain how AG Holder was flying across the country meeting with federal judges that these people have seriously lost their grip on reality.
Thats true, anyone can challenge a constitutional wrong. Quo Warrento is the mechanism that Congress created for the removal of an Usurper from Federal office.
You have it exactly right.
Obama has puled a Chester.
Great article Danae.
Pray for America and Our Troops
“Reading these threads is a valuable refresher in the capacity of the human mind to fixate, in intricate detail, on things it wants to be true. But, as they say, if wishes were horses, beggars would ride.”
Silly fool, in the context of the times, the meaning NB is clear - at least to persons that can read. Your analogy not appropriate. This situation needs to run up the legal pole until the SCOTUS gives a clear cut interpretation of what a NBC is. That is the only way to settle this.
Watch out Drew, thats a sword that cuts both ways. It all comes down to who ends up being right doesn’t it?
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