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| An Ohio State LEO
Posted on 09/27/2009 7:23:36 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Jack Black
South American three toed sloth.
41
posted on
09/27/2009 10:24:45 AM PDT
by
djf
(I ain't got time to read all the whines!!!)
To: Travis McGee; investigateworld
Bearing in mind that the information is
unsubstantiated... it still falls in line with what I hear from the
peripheral at my day job.
This is an
indicator, and one of many. These indicators are rather like a pressure gauge. So long as pressure is
acceptable, then the pot won't boil over, or
EXPLODE. But there's a fairly long list of indicators at this point, and as time goes on the list gets longer, and the pressure increases. It's
NOT a good thing.
One thing that's definitely going to over pressurize the
pot is for Federal authorities to
augment U.S. law enforcement with foreigners in response to the
domestic terrorism problem....especially if they show up in their uniforms. It won't matter what sort of
agreement was signed by the nations involved. The fact is that foreign military, or law enforcement here in the U.S. simply isn't
safe. Oh sure... we've had limited instances of it in the past (such as with 9-11 and Katrina), but if it's
generally perceived that they're here against the citizenry at large, this will be a most definite catalyst.
I'm not unique in my associations, and as with most of us here, I know people I stay away from because they're
unstable, and I consider them
DANGEROUS....to themselves, to me, and to others! But I also know people who won't lift a finger no matter
WHAT. These two types are on opposite ends of the spectrium. But most of the people I know are somewhere in the middle. Most of our personal associations are like this.... in the
middle.
It's this
middle that will suddenly catalyze and then gladly do things such as punch a hole from a distance into a
blue helmet with a scoped hunting rifle, or shoot a law enforcement officer with an eastern European accent during a routine traffic stop (more likely if he's wearing a
funny uniform)....and these are only a few of many
things they'll be willing to do when that pot I was talking about explodes.
IMHO, the Feds are straining to
create a domestic terrorism problem. Oh yes...there are indeed white supremacists, Jihadis, and crazy people who simply resort to violence
FIRST, and
generally we
AVOID these people like plague! These people
ARE dangerous to
EVERYBODY and federal law enforcement agencies are right in dealing with them!
But the feds are failing to notice something, and this will certainly cause them severe problems
IF they over pressurize that pot I was talking about. This
something are those plain
middle of the road people who are now organizing for the purpose of a
common defense. They could care less about Jihad, or white supremacists, or the other
crazies, or even federal and local law enforcement for that matter. But they are nurturing and developing a very pronounced sense of accountability over each other, with respect to physical security, and it's akin to a large field being taken over by hundreds (perhaps thousands) of smallish yellow jacket nests. Woe be to the one who
steps in the first nest! These people are difficult to pick out of a crowd as well. They don't put bumper stickers on vehicles, and (generally) won't talk politics or religion with you. They don't
hang out here, or at AR-15.com, and they don't discuss strength numbers, or even that they might shoot recreationally on a weekend. They're
nice, but they're developing systems of trust and putting OPSEC into play even though some of them don't know the definition of the acronym.
I've said this before about these
middle of the road people. They're good, solid people...patient, and slow to anger... Judeo/Christian based, and (IMHO) overly willing to use our representative legislative processes, even when it's so obviously corrupt and in such a dismal state of failure. But
WHEN these people consciously decide to
act, there will be no turning back as a nation. I say
WHEN because there is an observable and measurable increase of hostility and distrust between them and their government. It's not on the decrease. It's on the increase. At some point, something must
give. At some point, these
middle of the road people will be faced with a line in the sand and, historically here in America, this sort of thing usually pans out quite different than Europe or any other nation.
If there's any truth to the source of this thread, the feds should be very, very careful.
42
posted on
09/27/2009 10:26:25 AM PDT
by
hiredhand
(Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
To: Travis McGee
Thanks. That’s quite the interesting read.
43
posted on
09/27/2009 10:31:06 AM PDT
by
Lurker
(The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
To: CodeToad
My sister is a LEO in Texas for 20 years now. While a usually level headed person, she, too, feels that anyone not fully supporting the government in every way is someone to watch for trouble. That includes anyone and everyone. She completely believes in the pro-government belief that anyone not fully supporting the government deserves whatever the government does to them. She may be only 1%, 50%, or even 100% of the LEOs out there, but she and her fellow like minded LEOs number enough to be serious trouble. You're sister has a very distorted, and dangerous view of her role. The real question is how many of her fellow LEO think the same way. The federal gov't is not our friend. A percentage of LEO is, likewise, not our friend. The only question is what percentage.
44
posted on
09/27/2009 10:38:34 AM PDT
by
paul51
(11 September 2001 - Never forget)
To: Happyinmygarden; oneolcop; Travis McGee
Gonna cut and paste my reply from another thread here...
******************************************************
Sorry.
I just dont see it happening.
Its not like youre talkin a couple guys in camo will be driving around in a beat up Volvo pretending their going to play paint ball somewhere.
Were talking troop carriers. Lots of them. Maybe more than has been in any single place at one time since WWII.
And whats Katie Couric gonna say about it at 6PM?
Nothin. Cause it wont even be on the air anymore. Government would have to, out of total necessity, shut down all major forms of communication. People might notice that. Even those who dont watch CBS.
And where are all the buses used for transport? You start pickin folks up, and were not talking kindergarten buses. Were talking buses with chains attached to the seats...
Even IF they were smart enough to get all these things planned out, it would take like what, about 15 minutes before anybody with half a brain in this country would realize things were way, way wrong and they were rounding folks up.
Then, its party time!
*********************************************************
The logistics behind it would render it impossible... but!!!!
That does not mean that they could not take over SOME (not all) urban districts and transportation corridors.
45
posted on
09/27/2009 10:38:52 AM PDT
by
djf
(I ain't got time to read all the whines!!!)
To: Jack Black
Is that a taxadermy created monster? Seriously, what the hell is it? Ugh! It's a tree sloth. It lives above everything else, moves very slowly, and rains death from above, like me.
Well, everything but that "raining death" part is true. Tree sloths don't actually rain death on those below them. Just urine and fecal material.
Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.
46
posted on
09/27/2009 10:40:05 AM PDT
by
The Comedian
(Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
To: CodeToad
47
posted on
09/27/2009 10:54:57 AM PDT
by
WilliamofCarmichael
(If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
To: hiredhand
Good post; the money qoute (IMHO):
IMHO, the Feds are straining to create a domestic terrorism problem. Oh yes...there are indeed white supremacists, Jihadis, and crazy people who simply resort to violence FIRST, and generally we AVOID these people like plague! These people ARE dangerous to EVERYBODY and federal law enforcement agencies are right in dealing with them!
48
posted on
09/27/2009 10:57:52 AM PDT
by
investigateworld
(Abortion stops a beating heart)
To: BykrBayb
Just because a significant proportion thought he should have just let it go doesn’t mean they agree with the instructor. It might mean they know he’s wrong but just didn’t feel that was the most auspicious time to sort it out.
49
posted on
09/27/2009 11:00:06 AM PDT
by
Still Thinking
(If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
To: manonCANAL
Even if you have never served in any of the above capacities*, you are still welcome to participate in our outreach efforts and may join us as an Citizen Associate Member.*currently serving military, reserves, National Guard, veterans, Peace Officers, and Fire Fighters.
Is this like the "Ladies Auxiliary"? Certainly looks like the vast majority of Americans would be second class members.
50
posted on
09/27/2009 11:12:30 AM PDT
by
Eaker
(Kaiden sez, "If you have a problem and If explosives are an option then explosives are THE answer.")
To: Travis McGee
The most dangerous thing on earth is a government bureaucrat. They will do what they are told and when they are told without question.
Oh well, I am on their list so when they come for me I will try to make it one less .
51
posted on
09/27/2009 11:28:25 AM PDT
by
sport
To: Travis McGee
Hubris.
If the fed instructors think every citizen with a particular bumper sticker represents a threat, then they are not focused and they suck at threat assessment.
And frankly, if things degenerate to the point where the feds push things into an us versus them conflict, it wont be people with bumper stickers that they have to worry about.
52
posted on
09/27/2009 11:40:11 AM PDT
by
spodefly
(This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
To: omega4179
Maybe you are the one with some lack of reading comprehension. It’s called sarcasm. Read again.
53
posted on
09/27/2009 11:42:47 AM PDT
by
caver
(Obama's first goals: allow more killing of innocents and allow the killers of innocents to go free.)
To: Travis McGee
Thanks for the post and ping Trav!
54
posted on
09/27/2009 11:43:53 AM PDT
by
Eaker
(Kaiden sez, "If you have a problem and If explosives are an option then explosives are THE answer.")
To: Still Thinking
The go-along-to-get-along attitude is not identical to agreement. It means just what it says. Going along with something you know is wrong, just to get along, is harmful to all of us.
55
posted on
09/27/2009 11:44:39 AM PDT
by
BykrBayb
(Damn the trolls (even those within our ranks). Full speed ahead. ~ Þ)
To: Achilles Heel
You can bet the farm on it. Also that there is photo of each of them at the Secret Service and FBI headquarters.
Along with the informaation of each membe of this forum.
56
posted on
09/27/2009 11:52:26 AM PDT
by
sport
To: WilliamofCarmichael
Don’t mind at all. Bill Ayers should have been executed for his murders years ago. Too bad he is now Obama’s best friend and author of Obama’s books.
57
posted on
09/27/2009 11:52:46 AM PDT
by
CodeToad
(If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
To: CodeToad
I agree and as time passes the numbers for one side will incrase and the other side will increase.
58
posted on
09/27/2009 11:54:51 AM PDT
by
sport
To: stephenjohnbanker
Depends.
I’m betting the that 50% that are pro-Fed include the upper ranks. The pro-Fed portion may have more resources.
59
posted on
09/27/2009 12:01:17 PM PDT
by
Little Ray
(Obama is a kamikaze president aimed at the heart of this Republic.)
To: PLMerite
I don't like to think of that kind of confrontation.. though it likely would happen in scattered locations and be relatively minor.
If it ever really hits the fan I expect Nation-saving action from the military with LEO at all levels earnestly joining in to save our Republic.
I recall the 1960s and the efforts to start a race war. But white, black, or no matter the color we all recognized that we were Americans.
Now a generation later there are huge numbers of people here who ain't Americans, some by personal choice, and many of them will surely be a danger to the rest of us. Thus being prepared is essential. IMO.
60
posted on
09/27/2009 12:33:25 PM PDT
by
WilliamofCarmichael
(If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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