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Obama's School Speech ... Or Is It?
Vocal Minority ^ | 9/8/09 | EricTheRed_VocalMinority

Posted on 09/08/2009 3:44:45 AM PDT by EricTheRed_VocalMinority

OK, so it’s a lovely, fairly innocuous speech. So, were conservatives justified in opposing this presentation?

Perhaps not, but I can’t help but wonder—based on all we know about Obama’s past with radical “educators” who have openly expressed their belief that the schoolchildren is where the revolutions are sown—what the speech looked like before the Right started complaining about it.

What am I saying? That there was an original speech that was much different than this original one? Well, I don’t have proof, but yes, I do.

There seems to be a repeating pattern: The Obama administration and/or Democrat Congress goes too far pushing their radical leftist agenda, the Right adamantly objects, and they have to pull things back. Consider the health (s)care bill: The Dems first fill it chock full of nightmarish regulations, unconstitutional governmental overreach, and privacy violations. Then after a summer’s worth of passionate town halls and a few choice words by that supposed idiot Sarah Palin, the Dems have to water it down.

Another example is this “green” czar Van Jones who just resigned over the weekend under pressure from the Right. Talk show host Glenn Beck, who held the administration’s feet to the fire on that one, is really in the crosshairs of the Obamedia right now!

So, yes, I think Obama’s original speech was filled with socialist rhetoric and indoctrination and that conservatives were perfectly justified in crying foul. We know Obama too well. The current version of the speech is so un-Obama. It doesn’t crap on America, its foundings, or its economic system. It doesn’t apologize on behalf

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
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1 posted on 09/08/2009 3:44:45 AM PDT by EricTheRed_VocalMinority
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To: EricTheRed_VocalMinority

The whole concept of any US president giving a speech directed at school children, complete with lesson plans based on that speech and resolutions to be made after it, is offensive and unAmerican, no matter what he says.

He only toned it down because he was forced to do so, but Dear Leader still says “I” 32 times.


2 posted on 09/08/2009 3:49:44 AM PDT by livius
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To: EricTheRed_VocalMinority

The problem from the beginning was not just the speech. It was what the Department of Education (Re-Education) had planned for the after speech activities.

Yes, he toned down the speech because of the furor. Now, what did the school Administrators do about the add-on’s from the Department of Education? This came directly from the Federal Department of Education to the local Administrators. Did not go through any of the State level administration or the local school boards.

More evidence that the Department of Education at the Federal level should be dissolved. It serves no useful purpose and should never have been created.


3 posted on 09/08/2009 3:52:16 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. -Sam Houston)
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To: livius
This is the camel's nose under the tent. Does anyone think that Obama does not plan to do this year after year getting the children used to seeing his face. And, each year the message will get stronger and stronger.

Or, it's simply pure narcissism once again. He just simply can't help making everyone listen to his horrible voice.

4 posted on 09/08/2009 3:53:06 AM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: EricTheRed_VocalMinority

All we have to do is look at the “lesson plan”. The original speech had answers to those questions. It’s that simple.


5 posted on 09/08/2009 3:53:42 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com ............. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: raybbr
These prepared remarks are the equivalent of the use (more widespread in the past than now) of the lab coat in commercials or the phrase "experts agree" or "four out of five doctors say that...." They are props used to gain the trust of the hearer. By telling the hearer things that are, in themselves, innocuous, he hopes to pass himself off as innocuous. They also serve the function of shilling for trust: "Wow, he told me the same things that my parents tell me. So I can trust whatever he says just like I trust my parents" or "Wow, my parents don't even bother to tell me to do well in school and that it's my responsibility. So he really does care about me and I can believe whatever he says."

The unremarkable truths also serve to help to disguise the mistruths:
--that he was a poor boy growing up (as a young child up to ages five or six he wouldn't have even been able to think of rich versus poor or of how his life differed materially from that of others; he was either with a well-to-do adoptive father in Indonesia and attending private school or with his grandfather and grandmother who was a vice-president of a bank in Hawaii and attending an exclusive private school)

--that he had no father or father figure in his life (he had his grandfather from birth, then Lolo Soetoro, then his grandfather again as well as Frank Marshall Davis)

--that he was too poor to go to school where the other "American kids" went to school (because at that point A. he was no longer American, having been adopted by an Indonesian, B. he was attending a private school that offered Islamic religious instruction, something most "American kids" didn't have any use for).
In other words, since he was a poor, fatherless child like so many of his audience, he knows just what it's like to be them and if they want to grow up to be well-to-do and powerful like him they should pay attention to whatever he tells them, details to follow in upcoming schoolside chats.
6 posted on 09/08/2009 3:58:09 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: EricTheRed_VocalMinority

Why does Obama still think he can affect Limbaugh’s audience by holding his daytime addresses around the same time as the start of Rush’s show?


7 posted on 09/08/2009 3:59:14 AM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.thealaskafundtrust.com/ http://www.sarahpac.com)
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To: EricTheRed_VocalMinority

anyone that believes this is the speech he originally intended to deliver is either a fool or has guzzled the Obama kool-aid.


8 posted on 09/08/2009 4:09:12 AM PDT by wny
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To: EricTheRed_VocalMinority
"The current version of the speech is so un-Obama. It doesn’t crap on America, its foundings, or its economic system"

YOU NAILED IT!!!!!!!! SEND THAT COMMENT TO GLEN BECK

How is ABCNNBCMSNBCPBS reporting the Van Jones case? Considering they didnt find it newsworthy BEFORE he resigned, how are they explaining to their listeners (both of them) that he had to quit?

9 posted on 09/08/2009 4:22:47 AM PDT by Mr. K (THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!)
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To: EricTheRed_VocalMinority

Had a debate with a local DJ about this. Did the typical liberal “yes, Obama is going to harm our children with a speech on staying in school. I can see how the right would be soooo threatened” (sarcastically of course).

I said “It’s not about the speech, it’s about the lesson plan that required young children to write on how they could help OBAMA, not AMERICA, but specifically Obama”

He replied, “Well, they knew it was wrong and they changed it”.

My reply “So then you admit the right was correct to complain”.

Nothing. Chirping crickets. Finally a sputter or two and next topic...


10 posted on 09/08/2009 4:25:47 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: EricTheRed_VocalMinority

OK, so it’s a lovely, fairly innocuous speech. So, were conservatives justified in opposing this presentation?

Citizens, especially parents, were justified in opposing this political intrusion into the school system. Every problem that our education system has today comes from politics and politicians attmepting to take over control of children away from the parents. NO politicians belong in the shools.


11 posted on 09/08/2009 4:27:34 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Proud to have made Communist Leader Obama's hit list at flag@whitehouse.gov)
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To: aruanan; Quoheleth

PIng!

Good post.


12 posted on 09/08/2009 4:33:53 AM PDT by EmilyGeiger (The problem with socialism, is eventually you run out of other people's money. Margaret Thatcher)
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To: aruanan
These prepared remarks are the equivalent of the use (more widespread in the past than now) of the lab coat in commercials or the phrase "experts agree" or "four out of five doctors say that...." They are props used to gain the trust of the hearer.

Excellent point!

13 posted on 09/08/2009 5:27:49 AM PDT by livius
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To: Mr. K

The interesting thing is that the White House Counsel is letting it leak out that they had problems with his National Security clearance (DUH..) and he was hired anyway.

Are they trying to save their own skin, bring Obama down, or both.


14 posted on 09/08/2009 5:32:16 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: EricTheRed_VocalMinority
Wonder how the overcrowded urban schools who are insisting on showing this *speech* will accommodate the lunch schedules which usually run from 10:30 to 12:30?

Remember, children don't concentrate well on an empty stomach.

15 posted on 09/08/2009 5:39:11 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: autumnraine

That was good, lol!

The part of the speech I like is where he talks about his mother getting up at 4:30 am to give him supplemental instruction while living in Indonesia because she was poor and his father had left him at age 2.

Can we get some fact checkers on this?


16 posted on 09/08/2009 6:39:48 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Kenya? Kenya? Kenya just show us the birth certificate?)
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To: EricTheRed_VocalMinority

He is using NLP on our kids. Some of them will be eligible to vote in 2012.


17 posted on 09/08/2009 6:42:40 AM PDT by bankwalker (In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.)
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To: Eagle Eye

From what I’ve read, his mother instructed him in English (as it was not taught in the Indonesian school) and he had to get up before the morning Islamic prayers which were at 5:00 am.


18 posted on 09/08/2009 10:50:41 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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