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Colleges to parents: you can pay the way, but can’t see the results
"Oh No You Didn't Say That" Blog ^ | August 18, 2009 | SpeakToPower

Posted on 08/18/2009 8:29:56 AM PDT by SpeakToPower

Parents will be forbidden from receiving and accessing their dependent child's grades at colleges and universities - even when they pay for the entire cost of the child's education.

Just pay up and don't ask questions


TOPICS: Education; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: college; highereducation; parent; student; university
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To: Blueflag

No access == no money!


41 posted on 08/18/2009 10:07:09 AM PDT by MainFrame65 (The US Senate: World's greatest PREVARICATIVE body!.)
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To: SpeakToPower

Online diplomas ought to be good enough; when hired the new grad will sink or swim; what’s the difference.


42 posted on 08/18/2009 10:17:11 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: SpeakToPower
Here's an example of what can happen if parents don't pay attention.......

There was a girl who was suppose to graduate from my college the year after I did (I went back to see a different person graduate)

On the day of the graduation ceremony she had to confess to her parents that she wasn't graduating because she didn't actually attend any classes for the last four years. She withdrew from her classes each semester and took the money the scholl refunded to her and spent it partying, shopping and various other stupid sh!t instead.

She was only an aquantance...but we were all stunned.....she was accually trying to get us to lie to her parents for her to cover up what she had done before she finally just confessed......

Unbelievable........how stupid some people can be hugh? I never did find out if she ever tried again to get her college education. And I always thought the parents should have sued the college for returning the money to the wrong payee each semester.....

43 posted on 08/18/2009 10:25:13 AM PDT by thingumbob (Get to work and lets clean up this mess! and (Remember, dead terrorists don't make more terrorists!))
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OLD NEWS, been that way for a long time. You don’t find out your kid dropped out until it’s too late to do anything about preventing it.


44 posted on 08/18/2009 10:44:01 AM PDT by Jenny217
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To: crusty old prospector

Even better than that, she can be persuaded to sign the waiver by the ones who control the money: The parents.

As children age, the one challenge for parents is to identify and use the ever-dwindling levers of power to encourage good behavior, or, at least, safe and sensible behavior. Controlling the purse strings almost always appears on that list.


45 posted on 08/18/2009 11:51:33 AM PDT by DPMD (~)
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To: SpeakToPower

Excerpt for clarification:

According to the letter, “Upon a student’s matriculation into an undergraduate program … regardless of the student’s age, those rights [access to the child’s education records] transfer to the student.” We are certainly in favor of granting a level of responsibility to our children, especially since the large majority of undergraduate students have reached the age of majority – 18 years. However, the idea that parents should be forbidden from viewing their child’s grades, when they are paying for the child’s education, strikes us as being a step too far.

Apparently all of this springs from a federal law, know as the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA). FERPA was enacted by Congress to protect the privacy of student educational records and one key element states that schools must have written permission from the student in order to release any information from a student’s educational record.


So PARENTS you get the bill and your kids get to block you from seeing their grades. Another wedge between kids and their parents. This is dangerous.


46 posted on 09/12/2009 3:50:01 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: CaptainK

“This has been going on for at least 10 years.”

Care to sbe specific on what colleges?

I’ve never heard of this before.


47 posted on 09/12/2009 3:50:48 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

“This has been going on for at least 10 years.”

“Care to sbe specific on what colleges?

I’ve never heard of this before.”

This is federal law....not specific to a college.


48 posted on 09/12/2009 3:52:24 PM PDT by BelleAl
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To: mom4melody
Thanks for the heads up!

“My kids handed over the password or we didn’t hand over the check.

End of story.”

THAT will be the policy here when she is in college.

When I was in college, I was eager to show them my grades. I worked hard and wanted them to see them. I paid half and they paid half. I had to work for it academically, financially and even drove an “old clunker” to college.

49 posted on 09/12/2009 3:53:24 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: BelleAl

“This is federal law....not specific to a college.”

Even if the kid is still a MINOR?

When I went to college, I can’t imagine not showing off my grades.

When did this become a federal law?

I don’t remember this being an issue when I was in college .... I’m in my 50’s .... .

As someone else suggested, no password, no money from us for college.


50 posted on 09/12/2009 3:56:21 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: SpeakToPower

All parents need to request that dear darling sign a waiver for grades and medical issues. Or else no funding.


51 posted on 09/12/2009 3:56:52 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Angry about where our country is going with the current regime at the helm.)
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To: discostu

That’s HIPAA regulations, medical information can’t be distributed without patient permission. Whether or not the person is even a patient is privileged information. The same law that keeps you from finding out if your kid is receiving psychiatric care also keeps your boss from finding out if you’re seeing a shrink.

And information consents can be signed in all cases.


52 posted on 09/12/2009 3:58:55 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Angry about where our country is going with the current regime at the helm.)
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To: thingumbob

about ten years ago I had friends who paid for three years of college out of savings and then found out that kiddo was rocking around the country in a band and not attending classes. Top school. out about 90K


53 posted on 09/12/2009 4:01:26 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Angry about where our country is going with the current regime at the helm.)
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To: nmh
When your kid is eighteen and the government decides it is somewhat of an adult, when it comes to things that get between the parents and the kid, and not an adult when it comes to things that are a nuscicne to the government like alcohol consumption.
54 posted on 09/12/2009 4:03:24 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Angry about where our country is going with the current regime at the helm.)
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To: Chickensoup

Yes but it actually has to be signed, until then they give out nothing.


55 posted on 09/12/2009 4:14:39 PM PDT by discostu (When I'm walking a dark road I am a man who walks alone)
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To: discostu

Yes but it actually has to be signed, until then they give out nothing.

No signee, no monee!


56 posted on 09/12/2009 4:19:38 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Angry about where our country is going with the current regime at the helm.)
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To: nmh

SUNY colleges in NY state.

CUNY colleges in NYC.


57 posted on 09/12/2009 4:48:17 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: nmh

If your child is under 18, you receive the grades.

Once your child is 18, they get the grades. I have two kids who’ve gone through and they (the kids, not the school) shared their grades. It was never a big deal in our family.

However, I do think it is a stupid principle when the parents are paying the tuition.


58 posted on 09/12/2009 6:29:15 PM PDT by BelleAl
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To: BelleAl

Sadly, they have the right earlier than 18—library won’t release books read list for minors over the age of 13. Incredible & they wonder why we have so many problems....


59 posted on 09/12/2009 6:32:04 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait till it is free! "~ PJ O'Rourke)
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To: BelleAl

Whoever is footing the bill should get the grades.

At some point it doesn’t make sense throwing money in the toilet if they’re flunking out or not attending.


60 posted on 09/12/2009 7:01:43 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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