Posted on 08/12/2009 7:36:43 PM PDT by STARWISE
Has Obama ever held a UK, Kenyan or Indonesian passport?
Specifically, the issue of whether Obama held a UK passport is absolutely relevant to determine whether he is currently a British citizen. (I will be publishing comprehensive research on this issue soon.)
What passport did Obama travel to Indonesia with at the age of 6 years old?
Even if you believe Obama is eligible to be President, the question of what passports he held and what nations he was a citizen of should be of paramount importance to all US citizens.
But more important than knowing the answer to this question is the simple fact that nobody in the main stream media will dare to ask.
The question can be asked without any reference at all to POTUS eligibility and is relevant in its own right. After all, Obama has admitted to having been a British citizen and a Kenyan citizen so why don’t we know if he’s ever traveled with a foreign passport?
- Every citizen deserves to know which countries claimed our President as one of their own by issuing a passport.
My readers often write and ask what they can do to help. I’m telling you now to focus your attention on demanding transparency as to the Commander In Chief’s prior loyalty to other nations.
Relentlessly discuss the fact that we are not allowed to know the answer to this question. If we can’t – at this time – agree on the legal meaning of natural born citizen, there’s no reason why we can’t have this question answered with certainty by our President.
Those who don’t believe he has something to hide ought to support this transparency. If they too can’t get answers perhaps they will begin to have empathy for our fears. The blog heading above is the question you must ask:
Why Aren’t Americans Allowed To Know What Foreign Passports Were Issued To President Obama?
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“Mr. President, have you ever held a passport from any country other than the United States?” That seems an easy enough question for an ambitious reporter to ask. Right up there with the one about the long form.
Any FReeper ever pulled open the phone book and called the fired contractors who looked up Obama’s passport history pre-election?
It seems an obvious starting point.
A bigger question would be “Mr. President, do you or anyone in this administration know their a$$ from a hole in the ground?”
"One agency employee, who was not identified in documents filed in U.S. District Court, was implicated in a credit-card fraud scheme after Lt. Harris told federal authorities he obtained "passport information from a co-conspirator who works for the U.S. Department of State."
I wanted to speak with a certain fellow but they shot him...
DEAD.
He’s dead.
Key witness in passport fraud case fatally shot.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/apr/19/key-witness-in-passport-fraud-case-fatally-shot/
LOL
There are 2 left. 3 were involved, right?
I have a question, has anyone ever seen moms passport? Would it be an open record since she isn’t around any more? I have not seen this asked or answered before but know I can’t be the only one to think of it.
I’d like to know the name of the State Department employee who handed all of the passport info to the guy that turned up dead(murdered) too!! I think the guy was set up to take the fall and make it look like a run of the mill identity theft. But when the guy started talking to the feds..he is murdered.
Thanks for the ping.
We will NEVER get the answer to this and the many other unanswered questions about Zero’s past if we depend upon him, the MSM, Congress or any arm of the Federal Government.
I think those of us who want the truth are going to have to appeal to foreign governments who Zero has pissed off to open the files of their own security services. I am hoping Israel will unleash the Mossad. At this point it may be our only way of getting rid of the imposter. We have helped everyone in the world out at one time or another, its time to appeal to our friends to help us out of this mess.
HOW DARE you people any question this MOST OPEN and transparent administration of all U.S. Presidents. YOU are going to get flagged, and even the question that is raised makes you unpatriotic and UN AMERICAN.....isn’t this the song of the MSM?
Donofrio’s piece from yesterday
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World Net Daily Aiding And Abetting Obama Eligibility Propaganda
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Today, World Net Daily published a piece of sneaky propaganda. On one hand it purports to give a fair and balanced overview pertaining to the issue of whether Obama is not eligible due to his father’s British/Kenyan citizenship, while on the other hand it gives credibility and respect to infamous propaganda recently issued by the Wall Street Journal’s James Taranto.
The propaganda issued by Taranto came in the form of two articles – both dissected at length by yours truly – wherein he lied to his readers by stating that a US statute was signed by Ronald Reagan which grants “natural born citizen” status to certain persons born abroad.
NO SUCH STATUTE EXISTS IN ALL OF US LAW.
No current US law even includes the phrase “natural born citizen”. But the Wall Street Journal – via propaganda agent James Taranto – would have you believe such laws exist. This is the very definition of propaganda.
They got slammed in comments all over the web for their propaganda lies. So now World Net Daily has come to their emotional rescue citing Taranto as a credible source while ignoring his blatant propaganda shilling for Obama’s eligibility.
And in doing so WND is aiding and abetting propaganda. This is how they do it, America. It’s sneaky but efficient.
Furthermore, the WND article gives respect to other points of view which are blatantly false. Here is a relevant passage:
If a baby was born to U.S. citizens in the U.S., there would be no question of being a “natural born” citizen, he said. For a baby born outside the U.S. to U.S. citizens, likewise. But being born in the U.S. to non-citizens, Eidsmore said, doesn’t count.
“If he was born outside the U.S. to one citizen and one non-citizen, particularly the father, it is very doubtful that he qualifies for ‘natural born’ citizenship,” said Eidsmoe, who works with former Judge Roy Moore’s Foundation for Moral Law.
Eidsmoe said in many circumstances the citizenship follows the father.
“My conclusion if Obama was, in fact, born in Kenya, he is in all probability not a ‘natural born’ citizen,” he said.
To say there is “no question” that a baby born of US parents outside the US is a “natural born citizen” is simply false. That’s the McCain issue. And there certainly is a question.
(My law suit – Donofrio v. Wells - which went to the Supreme Court and was responsible for bringing attention to this issue – sought to have both McCain and Obama removed from New Jersey ballots.)
Now let’s move onto the propaganda regarding Obama in the quote above.
Read this again:
“If he was born outside the U.S. to one citizen and one non-citizen, particularly the father, it is very doubtful that he qualifies for ‘natural born’ citizenship,” said Eidsmoe, who works with former Judge Roy Moore’s Foundation for Moral Law.
No, it’s not “very doubtful” – it’s a certainty that Obama was not a natural born citizen if born in Kenya. What this article and quote fail to point out is that Obama would not even be a basic US citizen if he was born in Kenya. And that extends to the present.
If Obama was born in Kenya, since he was never naturalized, he wouldn’t be a US citizen at all – as we speak – today – as he inhabits the White House.
That’s right, if born in Kenya, Obama isn’t even a US citizen. He most certainly could not be a “natural born citizen” if he isn’t even a basic US citizen.
If Obama was born in Kenya - according to US law at the time of his birth – in order for him to be a US citizen at birth, his mother had to have been a US citizen for five years after the age of 14. She was only 18 when she had Obama and as such she could not transmit US citizenship to him if he was born abroad.
This fact is even admitted by propaganda agent Taranto – although he refers to the US law on this issue stating:
This is something of a technicality…
If the law doesn’t support your propaganda then just call it a technicality. I’m sure all the people in prison right now would love to have that defense.
In order to show you just how far the rabbit hole protecting Obama goes, I must once again quote Taranto’s original propaganda.
It’s so blatant that it must not be left to rot. World Net Daily – if it were seriously trying to publish legal truth – would have called Taranto out on it. Instead, they glorify by citing him as some sort of credible source.
This is how they do it now. One guy lies and the others then give him status.
This is how the lie is rewarded. This is how propaganda flourishes.
I do not fool myself that we will ever see justice on the eligibility issue. But if this blog can draw the veil from the face of propagandists like the Wall Street Journal’s James Taranto and phonies like World Net Daily then this blog will have done good service to its readers.
The original propaganda lie stated by Taranto at the Wall Street Journal was this:
“Someone born overseas and after 1986, but otherwise in identical circumstances to Obama, would be a natural-born citizen thanks to a law signed by President Reagan.”
No such law exists. No such law was signed by Ronald Reagan. It’s a lie.
And finally, there’s a sinister quote attributed to attorney Gary Kreep:
“There’s nothing that I’m aware of that says you have to have two American parents,” said the executive director of the United States Justice Foundation… “My understanding of it is if you’re born in the United States, you’re a natural born citizen, period.”
I suppose the following quote from the US Supreme Court case Minor v. Happersett – which was actually quoted in the WND article – has somehow escaped Kreep:
“The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the Framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also.
These were natives or natural born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents.
As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case, it is not necessary to solve these doubts.”
What part of “doubts” does Kreep not understand? That “period” he ends his statement with could not be more misplaced.
America, you are in a lot of trouble. Obama eligibility truth threatens the power which pervades both parties. You are seeing a true propaganda moment in the selective and tainted coverage of this issue.
The country is in very dangerous waters – out to sea without a raft and in danger of drowning to a certain death of liberty: a death our founders tried to save us from.
But that death is upon us now like it has never been before.
I would not characterize our interest as "fears". More like "curiosity", "questions", "concerns", "inquiries" or, just plain old "interest".
There's only one reason why he would not want the hoi polloi to know about these matters: the truth would show him to be a liar and a bamboozler. And that's why he and his admirers are evasive -- they can't handle the truth.
Murdered the day before he was to testify....How convenient!
Donofrio needs to take a chill pill.
Grin, I'll play along... This would be the same obama that to date has spent 1.4 million to keep his birth certificate, passport, college records, basically his entire youth out of the public eye? The same obama that is using an international law firm to do this, because why? Does it involves legal actions in other Countries??? Not just keeping Hawaii's mouth shut about his lack of a long-form birth certificate, but someone in Kenya's mouth shut about his real birth certificate there? You have to wonder, why "Mr. Transparency" and rhetoric there is blowing 7 figures on keeping his past so opaque.
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