Posted on 08/08/2009 12:49:53 PM PDT by RobinMasters
Our current US President was a Great British citizen at the time of his birth. He then became a Kenyan citizen followed by what appears to be citizenship in Indonesia. Perhaps he is currently a citizen or subject of a nation other than the US. (That question will be the focus of my next article.)
Obama’s own web site carried an admission that his birth status was governed by Great Britain. That admission was published by Obama’s Fight The Smears web site as quoted from a discussion of Obama’s UK citizenship written by Factcheck.org.
The Factcheck.org essay went even further than the admission quoted by Obama’s site. It further stated:
“In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC…Obama’s British citizenship was short-lived.”
Neither Obama nor Factcheck.org dispute that Obama was a British citizen at birth. As you can see, it has been admitted. All those who continue to dispute this fact are delusional. Obama was a British citizen at birth. Fact. Checked. Established. The only question that remains on the issue is whether he’s still a British citizen or subject. (And that’s the topic of my next post.)
Having been a British citizen at birth, Obama was therefore a natural born subject of Great Britain. Justice Gray – writing for the Supreme Court majority in Wong Kim Ark – quoted the following from a prior US District Court decision:
(Excerpt) Read more at naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com ...
I remember seeing that (his british at birth) posted on the obama website. I posted it on FreeRepublic and it was still there for a few weeks after that during the election.
No one seemed to care....
So therefore, Mongolia could pass a law stating that everyone born in the United States is a citizen of Mongolia and then there would be no natural born American citizens.
He is EXACTLY what the Framers were worried about and we can see why they were worried.
The author should have stayed on the natural born citizen subject.
I am for any war that ***** Muslims.
Again, for the upteenth time telling you this...Obama was born of a void marriage with the facts as we know them at this time...
HE WAS NOT A UK CITIZEN AT BIRTH
Why don’t you do some research instead of continuing to post bogus info
He was also a United States citizen at birth by virtue of the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution.
He lost his British citizenship on December 12th 1963 when Kenya became independent, by virtue of clauses in the Kenya Independence Act 1963 and the Constitution of Kenya. He gained Kenyan citizenship on that date.
He automatically lost his Kenyan citizenship on his 18th Birthday, because he did not renounce his US citizenship as required by the Kenyan Constitution.
He may or may not have acquired Indonesian citizenship at sometime, or his stepfather may have lied on school application papers in the late 1960's.
He has never lost his US citizenship, because he has never renounced it and because the courts have treated citizenship from birth as a birthright, which cannot be taken by administrative action.
None of these other citizenships have any meaning in US law. US law treats all citizens equally and ignores the second or third citizenship. The only exceptions are that:
a dual citizen may not be able to get a security clearance (not applicable to the office of President or Vice President),
they cannot get US consular support in their second country if they get into trouble there,
and they cannot get consular support from their second country if they get into trouble in the US.
Obama was born of a void marriage
Explain the term for me..... void marriage...
Thanks.
What is it EXACTLY that the Framers were worried about?
There are VOID marriages and VOIDABLE marriages.
Ann’s marriage was a VOID marriage -INVALID AT INCEPTION - because Daddy was a bigamist. there could be no valid contract.
UK law has much discussion on VOID marriages and how it effects citizenship, etc.
You can start your journey at the UK Border Agency
So far, I haven’t really found much on US citizen if born in Kenya to a VOID marriage. There is an out of wedlock provision that would require one year residency for Ann. You would have to see if there was a law that would protect poor little infant from lying bigamist parent.
Does foreign law negate U.S. law?
HE WAS NOT A UK CITIZEN AT BIRTH
Why don’t you do some research instead of continuing to post bogus info”
Actually, with Barack Obama Sr.’s mating habits it's hard to tell which of his children are legitimate or illegitimate. I make the presumption that Barack Jr. is legitimate because there was a legal marriage in the US. The question is was Barack Sr's first Kenyan marriage legal or not? Given Sr's habit of jumping into bed with the nearest available living woman, and speading his seed across as many women as he could, I'm betting he never bothered to get a piece of paper before doing so...
Thanks. So an illegal marriage or no marriage by the father doesn’t pass citizenship to the child. Interesting.
You need to read up on Luo customary marriages.
He was legally married in Kenya with the facts as we know them at this time.
You would have to prove that there never was a marriage to Kezia..and I don’t think he would have a hard time proving they were married...
It wasn’t that hard to get married in the Luo tribe.
In fact, if you read up on their customs...what happened to Jr may center around the tribal traditions in terms of babies born without a marriage...at least in part.
There was a reason for Ann to go to Kenya. She may have had a customary marriage...this throws a different spin on the analysis..but likely still would mean he was not a UK citizen if he didn’t register..but they changed the law about customary marriages if a person was domiciled in a country like the US.
It is folly to disregard the Void marriage analysis when making claims that Obama was a UK citizen.
Furthermore, even if a UK citizen..he would be an NBC as per analysis in Elg if born in the US.
Well, more complicated than that..but if born in the US under the circumstances that we know..he would not be a UK citizen.
Obama should have known that since he was a lawyer...so does that mean he was born in Kenya or that his mother had a customary marriage?
You didn’t read the article........
As Washington says.....
It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which finds a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another…....
Very frankly, I see lots of foreign influence bending our will. I have no doubt that lots of our Greenpeace, Sierra Club, etc. energy opposition groups are getting money from Oil states. I was sickened by the investigations of Willie and the Chinese followed by Al accepting big checks from Bhudist nuns - Sure rich bhudist nuns.
And you post enough here that you can’t deny that it was documented that Obamma’s immense fund raising was open to firehoses of money coming from other countries, for example Gaza...
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2008/10/21/obamas_175000_donor.html
Are you really comfortable that George Soros- a billionaire who worked with the nazi’s as a child as a big shadow donor to a Political party and its most prominent politicians (including the One)?
-—George Soros, admitted Nazi Collaborator and convicted inside trader is waging a great deal of influence on the the Obama government’s foreign policy, especially regarding Israeli Settlements.-—
If you don’t think that having our politicians bought by Arabs and Chinese is a potential problem, well you are probably a liberal and known little hisotry. Our forefathers knew much more history and based our Constitution on the dangers that Hitory highlights. You can bet your namesake President knew about this danger.
http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2009/07/nazi-collaborator-soros-advising-obama.html
http://www.nypost.com/seven/02022007/gossip/pagesix/a_fan_obama_doesnt_need_pagesix_.htm
http://bsimmons.wordpress.com/2006/11/04/george-soros-interview-on-60-minutes/
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US law is never negated by foreign law. The US may give full faith and credit to many acts of a foreign country such as marriage, adoption, divorce, etc. We may also have certain rights or duties under a treaty such as extradition. However a foreign government can never deprive an American of his rights under US law.
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