Posted on 07/23/2009 7:53:10 AM PDT by Alaphiah123
They are called birthers a term which is meant to be derisive. A birther is anyone who demands that Barack Hussein Obama cease stonewalling on the issue of his birth certificate and release the original vaulted certificate so that his citizenship can be confirmed. Don’t worry the Revolutionaries of our country’s birth were called insurrectionist by the British government so birthers are in good company.
I reject the term birther. People who are attempting to protect the Constitution and seek truth should be honored as patriots. People who oppose them are the crackpots because they work against theirs and their country’s own interest whether they know it or not. Therefore I will honor what they derisively call birthers I will call Truthers! (see 3min. video)
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Yes, there is a definite similarity to the "Truthers" (the name given to the crackpots who proclaim the "truth" that the 9/11 attack was an inside-job "Reichstag fire" scam).
Isn’t the term “Truther” already in use?
How about the “Stranger in the Manger Taskforce”? “Immaculate natural born truth seekers”?
obi wa nobama, or SOMEONE, acting on his behalf, pored a LOT of money into concealing as much of his background as possible BEFORE last year’s election. MANY of us here at FR, questioned his shadowy childhood long before 11/4/08 and were told that all was well.
Increasingly, this issue is growing larger and gaining more legs. There has been a concerted attack, of late, on the “birthers” (or Truthers, if you prefer), that, IMO, has Rahmbo Emmanel’s “fingerprints” all over it. Rahmbo, perhaps, decided that, since the issue wasn’t going away, the best strategy might be to take the issue on directly and try to belittle those of us wanting to see zero’s vault copy of his BC. Clearly, the more chatter the attacks generate, the more this is backfiring on zero.
Elections still have consequences and electing someone whose early childhood records are either missing, sealed (as many of zero’s are), or unavailable should raise huge red flags. Something is VERY wrong with Obama’s background such that his information is NOT readily available.
If he has nothing to hide, why did he go around various states and institutions demanding that his records be sealed?? Records that are, normally, public documents??
Smoke, meet fire!!
There’s a word for the clowns who refuse to acknowledge the lack of proof. They’re called cowards.
You know... every time this subject comes up about the birth certificate, I’ve seen these characteristics that identify those of the “Obama Derangement Syndrome”....
No... it’s a *real syndrome* all right. And there are folks who have it. The only thing I can figure out is that some people “went insane” after Obama was elected and this was how they decided to “cope” with the changed world they were in.
As for myself, I was shocked. What can I say? I mean it was really depressing that Obama was elected — but fortunately — I did not descend into the Obama Derangement Syndrome, but rather, started working with my state legislature to pass legislation to require any candidate produce a birth certificate if they were running for office, or else they cannot be on the ballot.
What can I say? Some people “went insane” and some people “got down to productive work” — in regards to Obama, in order to do something in the “real world”....
Here are some of the characteristics of Obama Derangement Syndrome, that I’ve seen and compiled from interviewing various insane people.... :-)
I’ll outline a few so you can see what I’ve defined as that...
(1) A military coup because Obama is not qualified and the military forces his resignation (there are variations on that but they all center on a military coup, forcing Obama out of office by the military people).
(2) Obama is not President right now... (a real detachment from reality).
(3) Obama can be removed from office as President right now by a judge ordering a U.S. Marshal to walk into the Oval Office and arrest Obama and remove him from the White House.
(4) The reason why Obama has not been removed from office thus far and the courts have not removed him is because there is a widespread conspiracy, fear, or collusion or whatever other reason supplied for the conspiracy. “Everyone” is involved in the conspiracy and thus Obama can’t be removed. (can be variations on this but it’s all about a general and widespread conspiracy as to why Obama is still in office).
(5) The idea that Obama must present his birth certificate, even though there is no legal requirement to do so, and even though no other candidates have ever been compelled, legally, to produce their birth certificate, and that if Obama doesn’t produce his birth certificate, then he is not qualified.
(6) The rejection of simple, real-world solutions to this birth certificate problem (like getting an ordinary state law requiring the showing of a birth certificate), and instead, insisting on “solutions” that don’t work in the real world and/or “solutions” that have not worked in all this time.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2298832/posts?page=141#141
You said — There’s a word for the clowns who refuse to acknowledge the lack of proof. They’re called cowards.
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On the other hand, those that claim that the absence of proof is “proof” — might have descended into insanity, after the election and now be suffering from Obama Derangement Syndrome.... :-)
I prefer the sane approach and getting the birth certificate by making state laws which make that “legally mandatory” (which it isn’t legally mandatory now...)...
See post #10 for some of the characteristics associated with Obama Derangement Syndrome...
You said — Isn’t the term “Truther” already in use?
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LOL... yeah “truther” is in use, for the likes of “Phil Berg” who claims that President Bush was either complicit in the attacks of 9/11 on the United States or orchestrated it, and also that the government took down the World Trade Buildings in New York by setting charges to demolish the buildings, and that the airplanes didn’t do that... LOL...
So, ya can’t use “truther” — since it’s already taken...
You said — I find it entertaining that the state run media finally had to acknowledge the fact that this is an issue. Of course all they showed in their piece is the people who say Obama is legit. I hope that the issue boils up more and we get an answer to the question
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I have said elsewhere that I’m detecting a “change in strategy” and that the leftists are actually co-opting this issue for themselves and finding it useful to derail conservatives. I’ve noticed this just recently.
This is what I said in another post...
Yes, it does appear to be a change in strategy and I noted that it was a “change” elsewhere. It seems to be a “developing strategy” actually. You know how some things work... you gradually come upon them or you stumble upon them. I think it may be that way with this, more recently.
I wrote the following elsewhere..., in a thread in which an article was trying to “tag” someone with this label of being a birther, while they were actually trying to distance themselves from it. It was like the article was “using” the birther designation to sidetrack the real issues that were being spoken about, by this conservative.
So, the comment I said elsewhere...
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The leftists don’t want the issue to go away. It’s too useful to them. I posted the following in another thread about what someone said is “panic” setting in. What I see, instead, is a “strategy” developing by the leftists...
Well, here’s how it would work..., if you’re a conservative and you have ever said anything about the birth certificate issue, those leftists are going to know about it. And then, let’s say you’re giving some reasoned points on some legislation being pushed by Obama...
If it starts sounding too good or they can’t counter it — then it’s time to shift over to the “Obama birth certificate issue” — and the leftists will be the ones who raise it.
Then they try to paint that person *as* one of those who believes that Obama is not qualified to be President, because he has not shown a proper birth certificate.
At that point, they’ve just gotten you off your points in regards to Obama’s legislation that you’re trying to get out to the public and over into whether you think that Obama is qualified to be President or not.
The public sees and hears this, they forget all about the points you were making on the legislation that Obama is pushing and now the public thinks the whole issue was about whether Obama is qualified to be President or not.
The leftists love to get the conservatives over into that topic, because it means that this particular conservative can’t talk about the legislation that he originally wanted to talk about.
That’s how it works...
And that’s why the leftists are loving the Obama Birth Certificate Issue as a good issue for them to beat on and divert any conversation away from something else.
I think the birther issue is going to be useful to them...
As I said, this appears to be a “developing” strategy right now... (i.e, just recently)
You might as well bother someone else. I just look for the name and move on when it comes to you.
You said — You might as well bother someone else. I just look for the name and move on when it comes to you.
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I never expect the person I’m responding to — to read what I say, so no concerns there. There are plenty of other people who do like to know and understand what the situation is...
“For America’s sake, for the founding fathers sake, for your children’s sake you need to see proof that the man who is representing himself as the president of the United States of America is eligible to do so. If he is not you have the constitutional authority to demand that he and his cabinet and his czars and his vice president vacate office.”
Or at the very least, see to it that he cannot run for re-election in 2012. I think this is where to focus the battle.
I’ll go for a political kill but will accept a severe crippling.
The problem I have with all this is that it all seems to be a day late and a dollar short. Well before the election there was plenty of material made public regarding BHO’s questionable and murky background not to mention his dangerously radical politics and associations. The Rev. Wright tapes alone should have made any reasonable and normal person question BHO’s fitness to serve as POTUS. IMHO, regardless of where BHO was born, he is no more qualified to be POTUS than is someone like Karl Marx, Saul Alinsky, Rev. Wright, or Bill Ayers.
The problem is the damage has ALREADY been done. I am not holding my breath and waiting for some federal judge to say to BHO that he must produce a valid COLB if we wishes to remain in office. If that happens, great—I will be jumping up and down and shouting out with joy along with the rest of you. BHO was elected president by both the popular vote and the Electoral College and was duly certified. It will be very very hard to undue all of this.
Our Founding Fathers and Framers of our Constitution made the removal a sitting POTUS a very difficult task. 2/3 of the U.S. Senate must vote to convict after the House votes to submit articles of impeachment. By its very nature, impeachment is a very intensely political (therefore partisan) process. The first president to be impeached was Democrat Andrew Johnson who faced a Republican controlled Congress. The second president to face the impeachment was Republican Richard Nixon who faced a Democrat controlled Congress which was on the verge of impeaching him. And of course the third president to be impeached was Democrat Bill Clinton who faced a Republican controlled congress.
See the pattern here? That is why I maintain that we as conservative activists focus most of our energy and focus retaking control of the Congress in next year’s midterm elections. We did this before in 1994 and we could do it again in 2010. Control of Congress is absolutely essential in order stop BHO’s relentless determination to impose socialism in our country. A congressional committee could even investigate BHO’s birth certificate issue to determine whether or not it is valid and precisely where he was born.
I do not have emotional capital at all invested in the birth certificate issue coming to a constitutional crisis any time soon so long as the Democrat Party controls all the levers of power. Instead, I am focused on electing conservatives to the House and Senate who respect the Constitution, believe in limited government and rule of law, respect individual liberty, private prpoerty, and free market capitalism as well as strong commitment to national security, securing or borders, and traditional values.
This is the only realistic way I know of restoring our limited government republican principles envisioned by our founding fathers.
Phil Berg a Democrat politico raised this issue during the Democrat primaries for fear that Democrats where going to offer up an ineligible candidate.
That is the genesis of this concern. Any deer can crap in a pond and call all who drink there dirty.
If the crap you call, “Obama Derangement Syndrome” has been dropped into this original concern that does not mean that the concern is invalid.
It just means that you are an abnormal deer because all deers know that one shouldn't crap in fresh water!
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