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What In The World To Do With The Homeless
The Cypress Times ^ | 07/09/2009 | Samuel Connelly

Posted on 07/09/2009 7:26:18 AM PDT by Patriot1259

Homelessness is an epidemic. As Americans, it is our right and privilege to help reach the needy. As Christians, it is our duty. What are the real problems and real solutions?

"How do we reclaim our park benches back from the homeless?" I listened to a city official ask a group of business men and women last Tuesday.

Sound heartless?

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TOPICS: Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: christians; homeless; politics; society
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1 posted on 07/09/2009 7:26:19 AM PDT by Patriot1259
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To: Patriot1259
It is a free country, and some have freely chosen this life style, either directly, or indirectly.

Almost all of the homeless have alcohol or drug problems, or have refused treatment for a mental problem.

It is lucky for all of us, that at the ACLU allowed libraries to be turned into day care centers, for the homeless, we now have the Internet and other ways of finding information.

2 posted on 07/09/2009 7:30:12 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Patriot1259

Soylent Green...


4 posted on 07/09/2009 7:31:57 AM PDT by astyanax (I'm here to spread peace, love and happiness... so get the f*#% out of my way.)
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To: Patriot1259

What do ya do with a drunken vagrant
What do ya do with a drunken vagrant
What do ya do with a drunken vagrant
Early in the mornin’?

Have him scream at Barack Obama
Have him scream at Barack Obama
Have him scream at Barack Obama
Early in the mornin’!

Some time ‘round noon he rises
Some time ‘round noon he rises
Some time ‘round noon he rises
Hours past the mornin’!

Preach some hope/change garbage at ‘im
Preach some hope/change garbage at ‘im
Preach some hope/change garbage at ‘im
Early in the mornin’.

Some time ‘round noon he rises
Some time ‘round noon he rises
Some time ‘round noon he rises
Hours past the mornin’!


5 posted on 07/09/2009 7:34:21 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Impeach President Soros!!!)
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To: Patriot1259

They should light out for the territories. The frontier calls . . . hunting, trapping, clearing the wilderness, homesteading . . . westward the march of empire.


6 posted on 07/09/2009 7:35:22 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: Oratam

That would require work.


7 posted on 07/09/2009 7:36:18 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Patriot1259

Feed them to the “hungry”.


8 posted on 07/09/2009 7:37:01 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Kansas58
You are correct. For those who want to change, they will find a way to do so. For those content in the lifestyle, no amount of help will suffice.

The only exception may be the ones who need meds, but have no real way of getting them, or refuse to take them as a result of the imbalance to begin with. They, more than any of the others who have chosen the lifestyle, may truly want to change, but are unable to do so because of their current mental state.

9 posted on 07/09/2009 7:37:25 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: Patriot1259

“How do we reclaim our park benches back from the homeless?”

Re-open mental Hospitals we closed all over the country as if these people no longer existed. Collaborate with religious institutions who will help provide staff to care for them. We chose to “mainstream” a lot of the very, very sick people that are now sleeping in the streets...we didn’t want to “stigmatize” them...there really are people in need of psychiatric care and relief from people who prey on them and we have dumped many of the sickest of them onto the sidewalk.

Or, we could just try to identify them before they are born and kill them, along with all of the pesky old folks. Eventually they and the elderly will be no burden at all. (Pathetic scary semi-sarcasm).


10 posted on 07/09/2009 7:38:28 AM PDT by jessduntno (NEVER say Cap and Trade Bill. It's the Electricity, Heating Oil and Gasoline Tax Bill....)
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To: Patriot1259
We need more Peruvian pan flute bands to keep the giant guinea pigs at bay. Easy money. Play the flute and sleep on the streets while saving mankind. It's a great matchup.


11 posted on 07/09/2009 7:38:55 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Sarah Palin: Sun Tzu of Politics)
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To: IYAS9YAS; Kansas58
I should qualify this: "They, more than any of the others who have chosen the lifestyle, may truly want to change when they are in their right minds, but are unable to do so because of their current mental state."
12 posted on 07/09/2009 7:39:39 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: Patriot1259
The biggest share of the homeless are in that situation because of chronic substance abuse problems. The ACLU and like-minded organizations fought tooth and nail to close the institutions which were actually helping some of these people back in the 1960's and following decades and sold society on the idea that they could be better helped by "integrating them into the community."

This idea sounds lofty and nice but only works only when the homeless actually want to be cured of substance abuse and integrated into the community rather than enabled to continue their destructive lifestyles indefinitely.

Until this prevailing philosphy is discredited, government help will continue to enable rather than cure the largest source of the problem. In fact, the only suceesses have been through non-government organizations such as AA and the Salvation Army who integrate a philosophy of changing behaviors with treating the symptoms.

13 posted on 07/09/2009 7:40:08 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Patriot1259
How do we help the homeless? Through private organizations, not through government.

Some are homeless because they choose to be. Some who appear to be homeless actually aren't. They just know they can earn easy money begging.

But there are those who are homeless through no real fault of their own, and they can use a hand up. There are already organizations in place to help them, and those of us who wish to do something about the homeless will support those organizations.

14 posted on 07/09/2009 7:45:37 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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Urban planning, do gooders, zoning, urban renewal...in a phrase, government got rid of flop houses, rooming houses, boarding houses all of which provided low cost, tax paying, no government staff hiring..housing.

So, naturally we have a worse problem, needing yet more government, more staff and more taxes.

That’s what government does. It never lets an opportunity go to waste and not make things worse and require more taxes, more govey jobs, more pensions, buildings, administrators, ...bla,bla, bla.

We should respect the houseless. If it is noble, and environmentally in tune with nature for Africans to live in mud huts, why not the noble houseless Therou of our times in a van down by the river?


15 posted on 07/09/2009 7:49:22 AM PDT by Leisler ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged."~G.K. Chesterton)
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> Homelessness is an epidemic. As Americans, it is our right and privilege to help reach the needy. As Christians, it is our duty. What are the real problems and real solutions?

I encounter bucketloads of homeless all the time as a byproduct of my vocation. If your homeless are anything like the homeless here in New Zealand, for a large proportion of them it is a chosen lifestyle and preference. Many are “that way” because they like it “that way”. Few will voluntarily “change”.

Few of them are involved in criminal activity, and those who are are only involved in petty, opportunistic crime: such as shoplifting. At worst they are a minor urban nuisance. At best they are valuable sources of community intel and can be good company. I’d rather hang around with a homeless than with a Madoff-type any day of the week.


16 posted on 07/09/2009 7:51:31 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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“Many are “that way” because they like it “that way”. Few will voluntarily “change”.

Yep. Many are living outside because of a paranoid schizophrenic character or delusional. And they aren’t gonna change that...many believe that if they do not have the ability to run away at a moments notice, not to be “trapped” inside, they will die or be killed. Not all...but many...are so desperately mentally ill and physically sick...watch how much fun some are having, talking to themselves, scratching at the fleas and the lice, sweating under the wool coats in the middle of summer (it protects them from a LOT of imagined harmful rays and things, you know, gives them the “extra skin” they need) and they are just living large, laughing and joking. They just LOVE the life they have...well, except for many of them who are crawling with spiders and the snakes inside them and the grotesque visons and struggles with demons...yep they are having a ball out there...I can see how that would be a good hang...


17 posted on 07/09/2009 8:02:26 AM PDT by jessduntno (NEVER say Cap and Trade Bill. It's the Electricity, Heating Oil and Gasoline Tax Bill....)
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To: Patriot1259

You can make videos of them for fun and profit:

http://www.livevideo.com/video/4F8197828CA2482DBE3E0ECEF21F973A/america-s-funniest-homeless-videos.aspx


18 posted on 07/09/2009 8:04:03 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Patriot1259

Social problems that will NEVER go away:

1) Homeless
2) Crime
3) Prostitution
4) Drug addicts
5) politicians


19 posted on 07/09/2009 8:05:12 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Le Chien Rouge

Social problems that will NEVER go away:

1) Homeless
2) Crime
3) Prostitution
4) Drug addicts
5) politicians

Ironically, a list that keeps getting worse and more dangerous every year as we march bravely into the socialist new world...


20 posted on 07/09/2009 8:07:14 AM PDT by jessduntno (NEVER say Cap and Trade Bill. It's the Electricity, Heating Oil and Gasoline Tax Bill....)
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