Posted on 06/30/2009 10:45:38 AM PDT by thedmasterr
rom Richard Dawkins God Delusion to Bill Mahers Religulous, the media is filled with half-truths and whole lies about what it means to be a believer in God, and more often than not, Christian. Dawkins argues that there is contradictory evidence to the existence of God while Maher pokes fun at the members of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, while simultaneously asking the usual theological questions. For example: Do you think that, if when you were a kid, they transposed the Bible stories with fairy tales, that you would know the difference as an adult?
Yes Mr. Maher, I would. It is a common misconception that the existence of God, and the Bible, have no backing. Often times atheists and even agnostics make the claim that science and God, or the Bible, conflict, and that they are simply choosing science over fairy tales. In reality it is quite the contrary: science actually necessitates and reaffirms the existence of God, and the Bible is supported by science.
Well start with the existence of God. The Big Bang is the accepted scientific theory as to how the universe was created. In a nutshell, it started with a phase change that resulted in cosmic inflation which caused the rapid expansion of our universe in an extremely short amount of time. Going back, we find the universe stretching to a single point, the moment of singularity. The singularity is where relativity breaks down, as it is virtually infinitely small.
(Excerpt) Read more at myuncommonsense.com ...
The ignorance of some people kills me.
I’ve always found it ironic that “Flat Earthers” has become slang for people with fallacious beliefs. That the earth was flat was once held as a scientific truism.
an interesting fact...........if the world was flat, there would be no water bouyancy
Faith comes in with a particular deity, but the scientific consensus shows that there must be a higher power. Read the article.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2276665/posts
How our youthful universe explored the string-theory multiverse in search of homewith help from its anti-universe counterpart. Its journey could explain why our cosmos is so well suited for life.
Saswat Sarangi owes his career in physics to a twist of fate. When he was a 13 year-old schoolboy in Orissa in eastern India, his uncle bought him a copy of Stephen Hawkings A Brief History of Time as a birthday present. Unfortunately, the young Sarangi would have preferred a cricket bat, and the book remained unread for two years, until he found himself struggling to prepare for a physics test on electrons and their antiparticle counterparts, positrons. His textbook was no help, so he started flipping through Hawkings book.
"Im sure I didnt understand much, but the words were fascinating. Thats when I wanted to do physics," says Sarangi, now a post-doc at Columbia University in New York. Certainly, the workings of antiparticles no longer flummox him. Quite the opposite, in fact, as Sarangi believes that "anti-universes" and their interplay with regular universes could help tackle one of the prickliest problems in physics: why our universe is the way it is.
Its fashionable these days to talk of the multiverse, the near infinity of universes of which ours is just one. For some, the multiverse is a godsend because it provides an explanation, of sorts, for why our universe has its peculiar properties. Why is the energy density of the vacuum of spacethe so-called cosmological constantthe size that it is? Why is the proton 1,836 times heavier than the electron? We dont have a physical theory that explains these particular values; but in the context of a multiverse, we dont need one. It is likely that our universe has the special properties it doesgiving rise to galaxies, stars, planets, and humansby accident. Other universes could exist with different properties, but we wouldnt have evolved in them and hence wouldnt be around to argue about it.
The Anthropic Disease
This is the anthropic principle and it doesnt sit well with Sarangi. "Some people have been trying to avoid this principle like a disease," he says. Sarangi finds the anthropic principle difficult to stomach because, in essence, it argues that there are some things about our universe that we cannot determine from first principles. Its like admitting defeat, and Sarangi doesnt want to give in just yet.
"(Sarangi) treats the anthropic principle as an admission of our ignorance today about our universe, not as a final resolution to the issue," explains Henry Tye, Sarangis colleague and former Ph.D. advisor at Cornell University in Ithaca, New York. "He is not afraid to ask provocative questions."
Sarangi came to Cornell after studying physics at the Indian Institute of Technology in West Bengal, just as another pair of physicists was stirring up string theory. Joseph Polchinski and Raphael Bousso had discovered that string theory doesnt provide a unique "theory of everything" that can explain the properties of our universe, as hoped. Instead, string-theory equations offer at least 10500 solutions. Each solution points to a different universe with different values for fundamental constants and even different laws of physics. And nothing in string theory seems to favor one solution over another. All are equally likely.
Leonard Susskind of Stanford University coined the phrase "Landscape of String Theory" to describe this theoretical wealth of possible universes. "Everyone became excited about the landscape," says Sarangi. "People were fighting about whether it was there or not."
Roaming the Landscape
For Sarangi, the important question is: Could a universe that starts off in some random place in the landscape, with random properties, somehow end up in a more stable region of the landscape, such as the one in which our universe resides? Our universe is obviously in some stable or pseudo-stable state because for the last 13 billion years, it has maintained the same basic parameters, such as the electron mass. But, asks Sarangi, did our universe start off elsewhere in the landscape, with different properties and laws, but then finally end up where it did?
The purpose behind this question is to show thatdespite the landscape and the multiversestring theory can still predict why we find ourselves in a universe like ours, without having to resort to the unsavory anthropic principle. A universe could start off with random properties but end up looking like ours.
It helps to develop a mental picture of the landscape of string theory as a terrain of hills and valleys, where each valley represents a point of temporary stability. (Because there are hundreds of different parameters in the theory that can change, the landscape is actually a hyper-dimensional terrain, with valleys representing the most energetically stable values for each parameter.)
"The multiverse picture is simply that there are different universes separated from us in space and time, and these universes are sitting in different valleys," says Sarangi.
A universe that arises randomly settles into the nearest valley. But what are the odds that this universe could explore the landscape and find its way to a different stable region? The key to answering this is to look at conditions in the early universe, when the infant universe went through a period of exponential expansion, known as inflation. While string theory predicts that a landscape exists, inflation shows how such a landscape can be realized. When and how inflation ends in a patch of spacetime dictates its properties and each patch is a universe in its own right. This gives rise to the multiverse.
During the inflationary era, the universe is at its most dynamic; if the universe is ever going to explore the multiverse, this is probably the time. An inflating universe that sits in a valley will be separated by hills from other lower, more stable, valleys. All it has to do to reach them is climb over that hill. But how can it overcome this mountain?
The Anti-Universe
Its possible that the intrepid universe could use a quantum trick to get it to the other side of the hill. In quantum systems, particles often "tunnel" through high-energy barriers thataccording to classical physicsthey should not be able to cross (see diagram, below left). Could an inflating universe do the same?
Sarangi thinks so. Until now, it was thought that quantum tunneling during inflation was impossible since inflation lasts for a relatively short period and should be over long before the universe has had a chance to tunnel anywhere. But last year, Sarangi and his colleagues found a special corner of the landscape where quantum tunneling happens so quickly that a universe has enough time to tunnel to another part of the landscape while it is still inflating.
Bizarrely, it helps if the hill is very large. At first, as you increase the size of the hill, quantum tunneling is suppressed; but then the rate of tunneling dramatically increases, says Sarangi. "We were very excited by this. This is the first example where you can get exponentially fast quantum tunneling, even though your hill has a large size."
So whats behind this strange effect? Something similar is actually observed in the lab, when you fire an electron at an electromagnetic field that represents a "barrier." Initially the electron cannot get over this hill. But as you increase the size of the barrier, things change. At the top of the hill, there is enough energy for the vacuum to start spontaneously spawning pairs of electrons and positrons. Usually, these electron-positron pairs immediately annihilate each other. But occasionally, a positron will roll down the hill and annihilate the electron thats trying to cross the hill. The positrons partner then rolls down the other side of the hill. Effectively, an electron has tunneled through the extremely high barrier.
Something analogous but far more mind-boggling could be happening to a quantum universe in the multiverse. Replace the electron with a universe, the positron with an anti-universe, and you get the picture.
Isnt this a bit far-fetched? No, not at all, says string theorist Brian Greene of Columbia University, with whom Sarangi now works. "Its a direct analogue of the case which is understood: the particle and anti-particle," says Greene.
Sarangi and colleagues Gary Shiu of the University of Wisconsin, Madison, and Benjamin Shlaer of the University of Colorado, Boulder, will be using their $50,000 grant from the Foundational Questions Institute to work out how likely it is for universes to explore the landscape via quantum tunneling.
Besides investigating cases where universe and anti-universe pairs help achieve tunneling (known as Dirac-Born-Infeld tunneling) they are also looking at resonance tunneling, a phenomenon seen in the lab in which an electron can burrow through two adjacent hills that have identical properties. It may be possible that universes can perform a similar feat. And with the help of Greenes string-theory smarts, they plan to simulate tens of thousands of hills and valleys in the multi-dimensional landscape to see whether tunneling can actually take place.
Greene is confident that Sarangi has the chops to tackle this formidable problem. "Hes a very mild-mannered but vehement physicist, who really stays on an issue until he resolves it," says Greene. "Its a great combination."
Of course, its possible that the simulation will show that there simply isnt enough quantum tunneling for a universe with random properties to make its way to our neck of the landscape. But just maybe the team will find that there is enough exploration and that random universes should find themselves in stable corners, where they would take on properties like those of our universe. "That would be very exciting," says Sarangi.

I believe its our goal to try and understand his creations and god himself..........I'm humble enough to say I doubt we ever do........but a what a great journey.
and our gravitational field would be hella screwed. Everyone would most likely be pulled towards the center of the earth, aka the center of the circle.
“Warming Earthers” know anout that? ;^)
Bubble theory is an old one, about 100 years old, and isn’t accepted by many physicists. They base their “conclusions” on assumptions upon more assumptions upon more assumptions. Truth is, they have no scientific evidence of it being a reality.
My favorite is the one where they said two branes collided. We have no idea what would happen if two branes collided.
science and physics are God’s truth tables.......funny how the truth tables were written 1st sooooooooooo did we really invent or just discover....
and proof God exists and global warmers are wrong
why is the world covered 3/4’s in salt water ?
Y Wang, J M Kratochvil, A Linde, and M Shmakova, Current Observational Constraints on Cosmic Doomsday.
JCAP 0412 (2004) 006, astro-ph/0409264
I'm not an astrophysicist, but if you are, what is the meaning of this?
In a broad class of dark energy models, the universe may collapse within a finite time t_c. Here we study a representative model of dark energy with a linear potential, V(\phi)=V_0(1+\alpha\phi). This model is the simplest doomsday model, in which the universe collapses rather quickly after it stops expanding. Observational data from type Ia supernovae (SNe Ia), cosmic microwave background anisotropy (CMB), and large scale structure (LSS) are complementary in constraining dark energy models. Using the new SN Ia data (Riess sample), the CMB data from WMAP, and the LSS data from 2dF, we find that the collapse time of the universe is t_c > 42 (24) gigayears from today at 68% (95%) confidence.
Bill Clinton sure had fallacious beliefs, boy and how.
Er...I mean.....oops.....he had fellacious beliefs.
Ok, time for more coffee....sheesh.
When? IIRC, the ancient Greeks even knew the earth was round and proved it via mathematics.
C.S. Lewis
(There was however a time when matter and time did not exist according to the big bang theory. Also C.S. Lewis penned the above quote long before the Big Bang theory was around)
I believe the Physical Universe is an illusion. It really doesn’t exist at all. It is a projection of the collective Ego.....and never forget, the Ego is not your friend.
“The ignorance of some people.....”
Does God exist? Duh, look in the mirror. We were made in His image. You know what’s wrong with these people? They probably have heard sometime in their lives to “be still and listen”. They never have. Until they do, they will never know.
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