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| 6/5/09
| kevmo, et al
Posted on 06/05/2009 5:56:08 PM PDT by Kevmo
PHYSICS ARTICLES DISCUSSION FORUM Fusion and the LHC (Large Hadron Collider)
Gravitonics article found HERE.
Located near Geneva, close to the border between Switzerland and France, the Large Hadron Collider is the largest particle accelerator in the world at a cost of about 9 billion dollars.
It is strange how we love to put all of our eggs in one basket. At the same time 9 billion was spent on the LHC, Dr Bussard could not find a few million for his fusion reactor. Don't get me wrong, the Physicists working at CERN are some of the best in the world and the reason I'm mentioning them is the analogy between the LHC and the TOKAMAK approach to fusion.
We've been promised fusion since the 50' and there is very little to show in terms of practical achievements. But we made the decision that the TOKAMAK is the way to go. How can we tell if the TOKAMAK path is the right one before it works? And what is a few millions more if it means following two avenues to fusion?
Dr Bussard talks at Google, Novemeber 9-th, 2006, see video. This presentation can be understood by anyone that has completed the Physics sequence in an engineering program or the equivalent.
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Kevmo's activity at Intrade, getting the Arata Cold Fusion contract listed and now trying to get naysayers to put up or shut up.
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06/03/2009 5:06:49 PM PDT by
Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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Gravitonics article found
HERE.
Intrade forum discussion found HERE.
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posted on
06/05/2009 5:56:08 PM PDT
by
Kevmo
To: Kevmo
It’s time for the naysayers against cold fusion to put up or shut up. I’m putting my money where my mouth is.
2
posted on
06/05/2009 5:56:40 PM PDT
by
Kevmo
(So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
To: Kevmo
If the cold fusion people have something that actually works they should be making millions on it, they don’t need any intrade junk. It’s time for cold fusion supporters to put up or shut up.
3
posted on
06/05/2009 5:59:33 PM PDT
by
razorboy
To: Kevmo
Topic: Fusion and the LHC (Large Hadron Collider) (Read 284 times)
Dinu Popa
http://www.gravitronics.net/bb/index.php/topic,6.msg6.html#msg6
Fusion and the LHC (Large Hadron Collider)
« on: October 15, 2008, 09:01:06 PM »
Located near Geneva, close to the border between Switzerland and France, the Large Hadron Collider is the largest particle accelerator in the world at a cost of about 9 billion dollars.
It is strange how we love to put all of our eggs in one basket. At the same time 9 billion was spent on the LHC, Dr Bussard could not find a few million for his fusion reactor. Don’t get me wrong, the Physicists working at CERN are some of the best in the world and the reason I’m mentioning them is the analogy between the LHC and the TOKAMAK approach to fusion.
We’ve been promised fusion since the 50’ and there is very little to show in terms of practical achievements. But we made the decision that the TOKAMAK is the way to go. How can we tell if the TOKAMAK path is the right one before it works? And what is a few millions more if it means following two avenues to fusion?
Dr Bussard talks at Google, Novemeber 9-th, 2006, see video. This presentation can be understood by anyone that has completed the Physics sequence in an engineering program or the equivalent.
Copyright © Constantin Popa 2008 All rights reserved
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posted on
06/05/2009 6:04:11 PM PDT
by
Kevmo
(So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
To: razorboy
I AM putting up. I don’t see you over at Intrade buying my 500 futures at $5.50 nor any other offers. If you’re so certain it’s junk science then it’s a giveaway. So YOU put up. Otherwise your words are as empty as your rhetoric.
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posted on
06/05/2009 6:06:00 PM PDT
by
Kevmo
(So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
To: SunkenCiv
I thought you might enjoy this thread.
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posted on
06/05/2009 6:06:48 PM PDT
by
Kevmo
(So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
To: Kevmo
Intrade is bar bets on the internet. If I do a bar bet it’s gonna be in a bar.
Put up by making it work. Not with some stupid bet, MAKE IT WORK.
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posted on
06/05/2009 6:07:17 PM PDT
by
razorboy
To: razorboy
If the HOT fusion people have something that actually works they should be making millions on it, they don’t need any intrade junk. It’s time for HOT fusion supporters to put up or shut up.
8
posted on
06/05/2009 6:07:40 PM PDT
by
jongaltsr
(Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
To: Kevmo
Cold Fusion sucks, ASP.NET is much better.
9
posted on
06/05/2009 6:09:55 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
(USM is Gator Bait! (Congrats to U-Dub!))
To: jongaltsr
10
posted on
06/05/2009 6:10:33 PM PDT
by
razorboy
To: dfwgator
Cold Fusion and ASP.NET both suck... PHP all the way!
11
posted on
06/05/2009 6:22:08 PM PDT
by
pnh102
(Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
To: razorboy
Heard of nuclear power?
But nuclear power will kill us! Right?
May you rot in hell for even mentioning the "N" word.
"snicker"
12
posted on
06/05/2009 6:23:54 PM PDT
by
jongaltsr
(Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
To: razorboy
You’re all talk. I can’t “make it work” because I don’t have the wherewithal. But I can give notice to doofus’s like you who need to be brought down a notch or two. If you’re so certain, then buy my contracts. Otherwise, your naysaying is just bandwagon jumping.
13
posted on
06/05/2009 6:24:42 PM PDT
by
Kevmo
(So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
To: Kevmo
So, let me get this straight: Unless somebody’s silling to go to Intrade and “bet” against you, they have no standing to argue with you on a forum?
14
posted on
06/05/2009 6:29:00 PM PDT
by
Cyber Liberty
(Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
To: Kevmo
Loser. Your bets are meaningless.
15
posted on
06/05/2009 6:32:14 PM PDT
by
bfree
(Obamie the Commie-- FBO)
To: Cyber Liberty
It’s one way to put your money where your mouth is. Have you got a better way?
16
posted on
06/05/2009 6:33:27 PM PDT
by
Kevmo
(So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
To: bfree
As meaningless as your posts, loser.
17
posted on
06/05/2009 6:33:53 PM PDT
by
Kevmo
(So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
To: Kevmo
I bet on stuff almost every day, but I don’t see your line of argument that unless somebody bets, they can’t argue with you.
18
posted on
06/05/2009 6:35:51 PM PDT
by
Cyber Liberty
(Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
To: Cyber Liberty
It means they’re all talk & no action. Talk is cheap, and they are even cheaper because they don’t put their money where their mouth is. Why should we listen to such people?
When doubters actually do put up, the interaction starts to become quite meaningful. Cold Fusion is emerging from the shadows and these naysayers are a bunch of whiners who don’t like it but they won’t put their own money down to back up their words. Soon they’ll all be retreating back under the rocks they came from.
19
posted on
06/05/2009 6:41:12 PM PDT
by
Kevmo
(So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
To: Kevmo
I wish you the best of luck. Me, I’d never bet on cold fusion, but if you become successful doing it, I’ll be first in line to congratulate you.
20
posted on
06/05/2009 6:46:33 PM PDT
by
Cyber Liberty
(Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
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