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Ted Olson: “Torture” probes will never end
The Washington Examiner ^ | April 23, 2009 | Byron York

Posted on 04/24/2009 10:45:49 AM PDT by Scanian

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1 posted on 04/24/2009 10:45:50 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

Lawyer Full Employment Act?


2 posted on 04/24/2009 10:49:10 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Scanian
As we talked, Olson ticked off what might lie ahead. If there is a 9/11-style commission, prospective members will have to be found, appointed, vetted, cleared of conflicts of interest, given security clearances...

Oh, nonsense. These are show trials. Who needs silly things like evidence and due process when the verdicts have already been decided?

3 posted on 04/24/2009 10:52:11 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Can't get enough of my snarking? http://twitter.com/slingsandarrows)
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To: Paladin2
Attacking like the wraith.

"Time to feed"


4 posted on 04/24/2009 10:57:15 AM PDT by PogySailor (We're so screwed.....welcome to the American Oligarchy)
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To: Scanian
“Torture” probes will never end

'Headline-of-the-day' ...

5 posted on 04/24/2009 10:57:30 AM PDT by TexGuy (If it has the slimmest of chances of being considered sarcasm ... IT IS!)
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To: Scanian
The DemonRATs think they are the only ones who can run this nation. The trouble is, every time they get into power, they move this nation closer to a Banana Republic.
6 posted on 04/24/2009 10:57:37 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The Obama Administration is a blueprint for Fabian Socialism.)
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To: Paladin2

The Liberal-Progressives want Stalinist Show trials with cameras, confessions, and executions masked as suicides. They will not be pleased until President Bush is in the dock.


7 posted on 04/24/2009 10:58:51 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Paladin2
More like Stalin Show Trials redux. This is totalitarianism, FRiends. The day a duly elected American official faces criminal charges for performing the legally-prescribed duties of their office we're done as a free nation.

This is a blatant attempt to substitute UN "law" for American law. This has to stop now. Peter King is right that Republicans must oppose it with "nuclear" force.

8 posted on 04/24/2009 10:59:08 AM PDT by Bernard Marx (Free California from public employee union rule!)
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To: Bernard Marx

Now we’re going to see all the “torture” pictures. When is the MSM going to release or find pictures of the blood from the World Trade Center bombings? All I ever saw were dazed and confused people walking around w/dust on them. What about airing some of those beheadings; that’s a scene you’ll never forget, and borders on torture as well!


9 posted on 04/24/2009 11:04:13 AM PDT by hulagirl (Mother Theresa was right)
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To: Scanian

We still miss you BHO.


10 posted on 04/24/2009 11:04:48 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: Scanian

Folks on this forum have seen me rail on illegal immigration for a long time. Most of my emphasis has been the biggest problem we have, the Mexican populous flooding into the U.S. without going through due process.

Another problem is the VISA overstay. Barbara Olson was a very bright woman. She was a model Conservative and defended it as well as anyone I have ever seen. She did so on the talking head shows. She handed the leftists their lunch all the time. I was very proud of her. Her loss touched me personally. I think back on her abilities often, and miss her.

A portion of the 09/11 perps were inside our nation, after their VISAs had expired. They were student VISA.

My thought was that we should trim those student VISAs considerably, and get things under control. Well, right now we have over 30,000 students here on VISA from Saudi Arabia. If only 1% of those VISAs result in those people staying beyond the time they should, 300 people will be roaming our nation at any given time. My guess is there are far more than that doing so.

Nineteen people attacked our nation on 09/11, and caused massive loss of life and damage.

Did we lean nothing?

I am off topic here. Ted Olson and his comments regarding torture investigations is an important topic, and I believe him to be right on target here.

I cannot pass a mention of Barbara without lamenting her loss, what contributed to it, and the people who facilitated it with their inattention to the control of our borders.

There is blood on the hands of our leaders. There will be a lot more, if we don’t make them get our borders under control.

More people are dying every day. More women are being raped very day. More children are being sexually abused and snuffed every day.

Political leaders, we are watching.


11 posted on 04/24/2009 11:06:30 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: dfwgator

The Conservative Base launched the 2010 election at the Tea Parties. This is the Democrat response. They’ll hem and haw for a year then start the actual hearings in January when the campaign really starts.


12 posted on 04/24/2009 11:06:56 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Bernard Marx

This should be no surprise to anyone.
Whenever the left attains power, throughout history, it’s not enough to “win” - they must exterminate opposition.

And, yes, a “nuclear option” must be used, but don’t expect the GOP to BE that option. The “nuclear option” is separation, or secession, and reformation of America separate from the Marxists.


13 posted on 04/24/2009 11:09:07 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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The “nuclear option” is separation, or secession, and reformation of America separate from the Marxists.
I've always thought a military coup to reclaim the Constitution would occur sometime in America's future. I just never thought it would be this soon.
14 posted on 04/24/2009 11:17:27 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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Obama appears to be a master of intimidation. And an enemy from within who strikes fear into the very heart of our judicial system. I don’t think this was really ever about prosecuting those involved with techniques used in the latest Afghani/Iraqi War, although it throws a bone to his leftist supporters who want it desperately. It’s about intimating our good lawyers. Conservative lawyers have been successful in training young lawyers how to think and govern according to conservative, small-government principles. The Federalist Society comes to mind, but there are think tanks as well who nourish these conservators of our founding principles. Obama wants them too afraid to continue giving their opinions... He is such a dangerous man.


15 posted on 04/24/2009 11:18:00 AM PDT by twigs
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"They have started something they can't stop, now that it's out. And what conceivable good can it do?"

Well, keeping it on the back burner until, say, October, 2012 comes to mind.

16 posted on 04/24/2009 11:21:17 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("If you cannot pick it up and run with it, you don't really own it." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: Scanian

Lets face it. The last such commission, which investigated possible failures to investigate 9/11, was stacked full of left-wing stooges, even though President Bush was nominally in charge. It even included Jamie Gorelik, who may have been as guilty as anyone for what went wrong.

As a result, the report was essentially worthless—a lying coverup throwing blame in the wrong directions.

If it happens again, Obama will not be so kind. It really will be a Stalinist show trial.


17 posted on 04/24/2009 11:24:15 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: MrB

As long as the borders are secured this time - because you know the welfare pimps and trust fund babies tired of high taxes will try to slither in.

They do it to their neighbor red states all the time. If we go to the trouble of seceding, the tards should have to sleep in the beds they’ve made for a change.

And since it should be utopia, I can’t imagine why they wouldn’t want to. </s


18 posted on 04/24/2009 11:26:36 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their government funding!)
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To: Let's Roll

Yes, seriously, we have to keep the “blue state bleed” from happening.

Perhaps a few of us could get together with some experts in devising a test to keep out those of the ideology that led to this mess in the first place.

Of course, the absence of social programs will keep out most of them.


19 posted on 04/24/2009 11:29:23 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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What has me confused is that the Obama administration is focusing its attention on "wrongdoings" by the previous administration even though at least 90% of Americans would probably come down on the side of the "interrogators" in this case.

What kind of political traction do they expect to get out of this?

20 posted on 04/24/2009 11:31:10 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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